Big Beautiful Bill - Is Now The Law Of The Land. Congrats Tax And Spenders

drnuckles6

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Done and dusted. BOOM
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TigerGrowls

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President Trump pledged to seal the border — and he did.

President Trump pledged to end DEI — and he did.

President Trump pledged to dismantle trans ideology — and he did.

He pledged to get men out of women’s sports — and he did.

He pledged to get woke out of the military — and he did.

He pledged to take on our corrupt colleges — and he did.

He pledged to stop inflation and unload American energy — and he did.

He pledged to take our jobs back from China and foreign nations — and he did.

He pledged to end weaponized government — and he did.

He pledged to reassert control over the rogue bureaucracy — and he did.

He pledged to seek peace and security in the world — and he did.

He pledged to restore democracy — and he did.

One vow brought to life after another, day after day after day.

For ten years, the communist left tried to stop him at any cost. They tried to frame him, defame him, bankrupt and jail him. Tory went after his family, friends and closest allies. He survived not one but two assassination attempts on his life.

He endured one wicked witch hunt, hoax, persecution and campaign of fraud and destruction after another. Comey and Clapper and Brennan and Mueller and Schiff and Garland and Smith.

Never for one second did he bend, buckle or bow. He was unyielding, unwavering and unstoppable as he led the nation to a stratospheric victory and electoral landslide in November.

The man in the arena.

We are living through destiny fulfilled.

And now, we stand on the verge of enacting his agenda — America’s agenda — into law.

To every Republican in Congress: honor destiny’s call. Honor the mandate. Honor the moment. Stand with Trump. Bring it home. Deliver the win.
 

UrHuckleberry

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Believe the bill also hits people with federal student loans. Removing economic hardship and unemployment deferments.

Reduction of Pell grants as well.

this feels like a bill where Trump doesn’t care about being re elected but the rest of the GOP is going to come to regret.
 

TigerGrowls

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When you actually read the Big Beautiful Bill “Cuts to Medicaid” you’ll realize every Democrat and mainstream media outlet is lying through their teeth

No American would ever be against any of this, here are the facts

“Here is just the first page of the cuts:

-Cut number 1, saving $35 billion over 10 years. Limit federal health program eligibility based on citizenship status.

That's just saying that people who are here illegally don't get to use Medicaid. It's something you have told us isn't happening anyway, so you obviously agree with that cut.

- Cut number 2, eliminate Medicare coverage of bad debt, saving 42 billion over 10 years. Do you know what bad debt is? You probably don't, so let me explain it to you.

Bad debt is where you have a debt with a hospital beyond what your coverage pays. So like let's say you have private health insurance. Now, your health insurance is going to pay their piece and then you have your leftover piece. Now if you don't pay that, that is what's known as bad debt. Now under no circumstances will your private health insur cover your bad debt.

However, if you have Medicaid, the American taxpayer will cover up to 65% of that debt. Now, how hospitals use that to their advantage is they up the prices for people on Medicaid, therefore making that bad debt increase dramatically and the American taxpayer pays 65% of it. All this would say is that we're not going to do that anymore. Therefore hospitals can't charge more for people on Medicaid because they're not going to make any extra money from it. Who the is opposed to that?

- Cut number 3: Next Medicare site neutrality set to save $148 billion over the 10 years. That one's actually really simple. All that says is the hospitals can't charge people on Medicare and Medicaid more. It just says they have to charge people on Medicare and Medicaid the same prices they charge people on private health insurance or cash. Is there anyone who's opposed to that? No, I didn't think so.

Now, from just those 3, we're looking at $200 plus billion dollars in savings.

Now, I imagine if I said we're going to cut $200 billion for Medicaid, y' all would freak the out. However, when you do a little bit of research, when you actually look into the topic that you're bitching about, making tiktoks about, you can see that. That $200 billion worth of cuts you agree with, Like, I just showed you one quarter of all the cuts they want to make.

And here's the thing. If you remotely have f*cking common sense, you don't disagree with any of them.“
 

fatpiggy

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The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates the package will add $3.3 trillion to the deficit over the decade and 11.8 million more people will go without health coverage.
Let’s not pretend the democrats would not have done worse. The only difference is they couldn’t manage inflation.

Kamala would have had a much bigger and worse monstrosity.

I hope the America Party is formed and that it helps center the nation.

we are screwing our kids and their kids (aka our nation) with this debt. There will be a reckoning one day, it’s like musical chairs. No one knows when it will stop, but it will stop.
 

firegiver

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Let’s not pretend the democrats would not have done worse. The only difference is they couldn’t manage inflation.

Kamala would have had a much bigger and worse monstrosity.

I hope the America Party is formed and that it helps center the nation.

we are screwing our kids and their kids (aka our nation) with this debt. There will be a reckoning one day, it’s like musical chairs. No one knows when it will stop, but it will stop.
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) just published its score of the recently unveiled bipartisan Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act. Though its estimates are complicated to decipher, they show the legislation would directly add over $340 billion to the deficit and cost nearly $400 billion when including indirect effects from a higher transportation spending baseline; neither figure includes interest.

As CBO explains, the direct spending, appropriations, and revenue provisions in the legislation would have a net cost of $256 billion. On top of this, the legislation would increase highway and transit "contract authority" by roughly $90 billion over five years and set the stage for a $196 billon increase over a decade.

Taken together, CBO shows the legislation would authorize $566 billion of spending and tax breaks, which translates to $517 billion of costs over the next decade. Offsetting revenue and spending provisions would save about $206 billion in budget authority and generate $173 billion of actual savings.

On net, the legislation would cost over $340 billion based on its direct effects. This is roughly in line with our prior estimate of the bill.
 

johnhugh

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God give us the ability to stop taxing the **** out of everything and spending money on ridiculous bullsh!t so that we can have money for food and healthcare.

fixed it for you
God give us the power to cause additional harm to the poor and marginalized as Christ taught us to do. This prayer brought to you by Raytheon and Meta, amen

This bill will do irreparable damage to the country. The question is will you and the rest of the sheep take the blame when it happens?
 
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God give us the power to cause additional harm to the poor and marginalized as Christ taught us to do. This prayer brought to you by Raytheon and Meta, amen

This bill will do irreparable damage to the country. The question is will you and the rest of the sheep take the blame when it happens?
You sure love to follow the media narratives.
 
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fatpiggy

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God give us the power to cause additional harm to the poor and marginalized as Christ taught us to do. This prayer brought to you by Raytheon and Meta, amen

This bill will do irreparable damage to the country. The question is will you and the rest of the sheep take the blame when it happens?
I am not a supporter of the bill check my post history, but it is undoubtedly better for the country than what the Democrats would have done.

This bill contained too much spending for my likes. That being said it does have some good stuff in there.

Democrats need to find ways to cut spending on ridiculous **** like USAID, DEI, Transgenderism so that we can have money for healthcare and more important issues.

Inflation was the #1 issue last election and the people simply said they were unwilling to pay for the ridiculous Dem spending.

We will see if Trump can handle inflation better. If it creeps back up to levels under the Biden admin Republicans will pay a price at the voter box.

As it is now, inflation is hovering right around the target rate. We will see if that holds or not.
 
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johnhugh

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I am not a supporter of the bill check my post history, but it is undoubtedly better for the country than what the Democrats would have done.

This bill contained too much spending for my likes. That being said it does have some good stuff in there.

Democrats need to find ways to cut spending on ridiculous **** like USAID, DEI, Transgenderism so that we can have money for healthcare and more important issues.

Inflation was the #1 issue last election and the people simply said they were unwilling to pay for the ridiculous Dem spending.

We will see if Trump can handle inflation better. If it creeps back up to levels under the Biden admin Republicans will pay a price at the voter box.

As it is now, inflation is hovering right around the target rate. We will see if that holds or not.
This bill adds billions/trillions to the deficit and gives the executive branch dictator-like power. This bill is signing away the rights of the average American
 
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fatpiggy

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This bill adds billions/trillions to the deficit and gives the executive branch dictator-like power. This bill is signing away the rights of the average American
Drama queen. NOW you are concerned about the deficit? I agree it’s a problem. But yall didn’t say a peep when inflation was at 50 year highs and you tried to pass build back better .

win the next election and you too can have those powers.
 

fatpiggy

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One of the best parts of the OBBB is the border funding. We once again have sovereignty. We have the funding to reverse the incompetence of Mayorkas. Incompetence is expensive!

Bad day for the globalists.

 
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Donald J. Trump Truth Social 07.03.25 06:15 PM EST


The Republicans in the House of Representatives have just passed the “ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL ACT.” Our Party is UNITED like never before and, our Country is “HOT.” We are going to have a Signing Celebration at the White House tomorrow, at 4 P.M. EST. All Congressmen/women and Senators are invited. Together, we will celebrate our Nation’s Independence, and the beginning of our new Golden Age. The people of the United States of America will be Richer, Safer, and Prouder than ever before. Thank you to Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, Senate Majority Leader John Thune, and all of the wonderful Republican Members of Congress who helped us deliver on our Promises, and so much more. Together, we can do things that were not even imagined possible less than one year ago. We will keep working, and winning — CONGRATULATIONS AMERICA!
 
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I know you are talking about other things in this thread, but DAMN. MJ was/IS the GOAT!

Good GOD! Can you imagine him in the league today with the Lay-bron rules? He would score 70 a game and you couldn't stop him. Back in his hayday they would tackle him to keep him from the basket.

DEER LORT!