Big Ten Expansion

[LooseCannon]

With television contracts expiring this spring. Could the B1G make a move to lock up some teams and tv markets? Who do you want in the B1G if they expand? I want Kansas and Oklahoma no doubt. Add Notre Dame and UVA, that would just be icing on the cake.

 

[Chief Wiggum_rivals246870]

Notre Dame is appealing, but they aren't coming so scratch them off the list.

We already add two stiffs in football, I can't imagine us going for anyone other than OU. Kansas or another team will just come along for the ride. I know their academics aren't all that great, but probably aren't THAT much below Nebraska's. I am in the minority but I would like Texas to come as well....I don't think the B1G would kowtow to those guys like everyone else has....which is the reason I don't think they ever get an offer.

 

[rez dog 70]

I think the ACC talk is to give Oklahoma that finally little push to get things rolling.

 

[rez dog 70]

Notre Dame is appealing, but they aren't coming so scratch them off the list.

We already add two stiffs in football, I can't imagine us going for anyone other than OU. Kansas or another team will just come along for the ride. I know their academics aren't all that great, but probably aren't THAT much below Nebraska's. I am in the minority but I would like Texas to come as well....I don't think the B1G would kowtow to those guys like everyone else has....which is the reason I don't think they ever get an offer.

Please not the horns.

 

[LooseCannon]

Notre Dame is appealing, but they aren't coming so scratch them off the list.

We already add two stiffs in football, I can't imagine us going for anyone other than OU. Kansas or another team will just come along for the ride. I know their academics aren't all that great, but probably aren't THAT much below Nebraska's. I am in the minority but I would like Texas to come as well....I don't think the B1G would kowtow to those guys like everyone else has....which is the reason I don't think they ever get an offer.

KU has better academics than Nebraska. Plus AAU membership and tons of research potential as well.

I really think Notre Dame is going to have to join a conference. Whether it's the Big 10 or ACC, they will be left out if they stay Independent.

 

[LooseCannon]

Also the B1G needs to stay away from UT. We know what they can bring to the table money wise and eyeball wise, but the trouble is not worth it.

 

[Chief Wiggum_rivals246870]

KU has better academics than Nebraska. Plus AAU membership and tons of research potential as well.

I really think Notre Dame is going to have to join a conference. Whether it's the Big 10 or ACC, they will be left out if they stay Independent.

I meant the academics at Oklahoma are below Nebraska's but not by a huge amount...no AAU at OU either....

 

[maplesyrup95]

It still really confuses me why they let Rutgers and Maryland into the B1G. But as long as we have 14 teams now, it makes that much more sense to have 16 teams. Keep in mind this is just football.

They could split it into two groups of 8 teams :

B1G West --- (1)Nebraska (2)Oklahoma (3)Wisconsin (4)Illinois (5)Northwestern
(6)Kansas (7)Minnesota (8)Iowa

B1G East --- (1)Michigan State (2)OSU (3)Michigan (4)Indiana (5)Penn State (6)Maryland (7)Rutgers (8)Purdue


OR 4 groups of 4 team in the age of the Playoff System. Win 2 out of 3 in your group and play the winner of one of the other 4 group winner for the semifinals, then play the final 2. Just brainstorming here. Have no idea if this would work:

B1G West --- (1)Nebraska (2)Oklahoma (3)Kansas (4)Iowa

B1G North --- (1)Michigan State (2)Michigan (3)Illinois (4)Minnesota

B1G Central --- (1)Wisconsin (2)Northwestern (3)Purdue (4)Indiana

B1G East --- (1)OSU (2)Penn State (3)Maryland (4)Rutgers

 

[jimbosc]

Only 2 - and OU and KU would be awesome fits relative to Nebraska. Maybe not what the rest of the B1G wants. The conference seems to be focused on eastern expansion not the south or west. Most likely candidates are VA and UNC - but they seem pretty solid on remaining in the ACC. I think the hurdle to get Notre Dame or any Big 12 school into the B1G is much lower in terms of paying off penalties. Texas won't join a conference with a Fox affiliated network (BTN) as long as the Longhorn Network remains in existence with ESPN.

 

[Maui2022]

Also the B1G needs to stay away from UT. We know what they can bring to the table money wise and eyeball wise, but the trouble is not worth it.

Texas ruined 3 conferences ... the SWC, Big 8 and Big 12. They should go independent and that would then free up Oklahoma. Oklahoma is a better fit for the SEC. Kansas for the Big 10.

I do see more movement and consolidation with the Big 12 taking most of the hits, deservingly so ...

 

[candid]

Notre Dame is appealing, but they aren't coming so scratch them off the list.

We already add two stiffs in football, I can't imagine us going for anyone other than OU. Kansas or another team will just come along for the ride. I know their academics aren't all that great, but probably aren't THAT much below Nebraska's. I am in the minority but I would like Texas to come as well....I don't think the B1G would kowtow to those guys like everyone else has....which is the reason I don't think they ever get an offer.

Careful to talk academs but, I've been told, corrected, that OU has lousy academics, Kansas is pretty good. For athletics and Ne, it would be great to add OU. Until Ne, I didn't realize the value the CIC brings in $ and Ne was really close on academs, the football program was enough. I expect Ne academs will climb and no longer a valid issue.

 

[HuskerWingman]

Do you think that Kansas or Oklahoma can leave the little state schools behind. I've always heard that the states would make them a package deal and that they don't want to split them up. Personally, I don't want to include ksu in anything.

 

[Hoosker Du]

KU has better academics than Nebraska. Plus AAU membership and tons of research potential as well.

I really think Notre Dame is going to have to join a conference. Whether it's the Big 10 or ACC, they will be left out if they stay Independent.

KU is generally about equal or below Nebraska in the academic rankings that I've seen.

 

[MITCH492]

Kansas and UVA are the best choices as not to be a homer.

Oklahoma stirs interest, but it's not happening.

 

[LBremser_rivals78367]

I can't imagine us going for anyone other than OU. Kansas or another team will just come along for the ride. I know their academics aren't all that great, but probably aren't THAT much below Nebraska's..

Here in no particular order are average grade point average (weighted) and average ACT scores for freshmen admissions to Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma and Rutgers. All pretty similar except the middle one stands out a bit, anyone want to take a guess which one it is?
3.72; 28
3.82; 27
3.96; 29
3.68; 27
3.77; 27

 

[LooseCannon]

KU is generally about equal or below Nebraska in the academic rankings that I've seen.

I haven't looked at rankings for a year or so, but in the past few years KU has been in front of Nebraska. Not by much though. Being in the B1G will help Nebraska academics down the road.

 

[keithleyb]

I want KU and OU in the west with UNC and GT in the east.

 

[LooseCannon]

Do you think that Kansas or Oklahoma can leave the little state schools behind. I've always heard that the states would make them a package deal and that they don't want to split them up. Personally, I don't want to include ksu in anything.

KU Chancellor said back in 2011 when the Big 12 nearly died for a second time that they aren't attached to KSUx. They will do what's best for KU.

According to the Chicago Sun, The B1G had interest in KU back in 1993 when they added Penn State, but stuck at 11 teams. Can't find the article but it was from 1994.

 

[MITCH492]

Here in no particular order are average grade point average (weighted) and average ACT scores for freshmen admissions to Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma and Rutgers. All pretty similar except the middle one stands out a bit, anyone want to take a guess which one it is?
3.72; 28
3.82; 27
3.96; 29
3.68; 27
3.77; 27

What? No way is Iowa ranked behind Nebraska. Iowa demands a recount. Trump commands it.

 

[vighawk]

KU Chancellor said back in 2011 when the Big 12 nearly died for a second time that they aren't attached to KSUx. They will do what's best for KU.

According to the Chicago Sun, The B1G had interest in KU back in 1993 when they added Penn State, but stuck at 11 teams. Can't find the article but it was from 1994.

The KU Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little chimed in on this. There is a "preference" to stay together (political correct response) but KU and KSU are not tied together.

Let's make it happen boys! KU and NU belong in the same.league (OU too).

 

[jedimasterjed]

Kansas, Oklahoma or Texas would be great additions. Texas would not run the BIG the way they did the big 12.

 

[SilentCommit]

Kansas, Oklahoma or Texas would be great additions. Texas would not run the BIG the way they did the big 12.

Texas would be an awful fit with the culture of the B1G, and it seems unlikely they'd seriously consider an offer. They're the institutional equivalent of a trophy wife. As for expansion, I'm weary of it. Break the football programs away from the scholarship model, hire a commissioner, and create a large league with multiple divisions.

 

[planored]

Here in no particular order are average grade point average (weighted) and average ACT scores for freshmen admissions to Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma and Rutgers. All pretty similar except the middle one stands out a bit, anyone want to take a guess which one it is?
3.72; 28
3.82; 27
3.96; 29
3.68; 27
3.77; 27

Pretty sure the 29 ACT is OU

 

[meo1960]

With television contracts expiring this spring. Could the B1G make a move to lock up some teams and tv markets? Who do you want in the B1G if they expand? I want Kansas and Oklahoma no doubt. Add Notre Dame and UVA, that would just be icing on the cake.

Screw Notre Dame. Self-Entitled Jerks. They think they can just place any of their sports teams into any conference they choose??? Makes me sick! They should be on an even playing surface with the rest of Division 1.

 

[Hoosker Du]

I haven't looked at rankings for a year or so, but in the past few years KU has been in front of Nebraska. Not by much though. Being in the B1G will help Nebraska academics down the road.

In the 2016 US News and World Report rankings, Nebraska was 103rd and KU was 115th. I would be very surprised if KU were ranked ahead of NU the last couple of years with NU having that much of a lead this year, but I suppose it's possible.

 

[Nebraska Fan]

If they would consider UT for the television why not take Miami. Fans can fly into Miami much easier then Austin .

 

[Charlie Marlow_rivals363743]

KU and Oklahoma obviously.

UNL and KU each have their strengths and weaknesses, but overall they are roughly the same academically.

It would be nice if Zenger ever got off his butt and did something with KU's stadium. It is a bit of a joke.

KS legislature keeps cutting KU's funding while adding more and more oversight. Maybe KU will go private by the time the GOR gets close to expiring.

 

[inWV]

ND is already affiliated with the ACC in some sports. I would think ACC for them if they join one.

 

[Hammer of the Gods]

It still really confuses me why they let Rutgers and Maryland into the B1G. But as long as we have 14 teams now, it makes that much more sense to have 16 teams. Keep in mind this is just football.

They could split it into two groups of 8 teams :

B1G West --- (1)Nebraska (2)Oklahoma (3)Wisconsin (4)Illinois (5)Northwestern
(6)Kansas (7)Minnesota (8)Iowa

B1G East --- (1)Michigan State (2)OSU (3)Michigan (4)Indiana (5)Penn State (6)Maryland (7)Rutgers (8)Purdue


OR 4 groups of 4 team in the age of the Playoff System. Win 2 out of 3 in your group and play the winner of one of the other 4 group winner for the semifinals, then play the final 2. Just brainstorming here. Have no idea if this would work:

B1G West --- (1)Nebraska (2)Oklahoma (3)Kansas (4)Iowa

B1G North --- (1)Michigan State (2)Michigan (3)Illinois (4)Minnesota

B1G Central --- (1)Wisconsin (2)Northwestern (3)Purdue (4)Indiana

B1G East --- (1)OSU (2)Penn State (3)Maryland (4)Rutgers

The Big central is way to weak.

 

[NikkiSixx_rivals269993]

One can't seriously leave Texas off the poll.. if Delaney goes after anyone, it's UT first.

He doesn't care that that NU fans are still butt hurt over the 1 sec deal. UT brings the most eyeballs, TV sets, and leverage when negotiating contracts.

If they could bring UT, then they might also add KU.

While I would like to see OU, academically, that probably isn't going to happen.

So UT & KU, if they can get UT first, otherwise, I don't see any additional expansion for now.

It would have to make a lot of financial sense to pay out more huge penalties for teams to leave their current league.

 

[redwine65]

I wonder if just getting teams for cable markets is a good idea anymore, because I think people are getting away from cable markets, with hulu and things like that?
but I guess it's good to have teams by large populations regardless, for recruiting and exposure.

 

[TheLiberalHunter]

One can't seriously leave Texas off the poll.. if Delaney goes after anyone, it's UT first.

He doesn't care that that NU fans are still butt hurt over the 1 sec deal. UT brings the most eyeballs, TV sets, and leverage when negotiating contracts.

If they could bring UT, then they might also add KU.

While I would like to see OU, academically, that probably isn't going to happen.

So UT & KU, if they can get UT first, otherwise, I don't see any additional expansion for now.

It would have to make a lot of financial sense to pay out more huge penalties for teams to leave their current league.

No kidding. People have to get over the Texas thing. Crap that Texas pulls is what would make them a great rival. Open Texas a bit more to our recruiters and we could be in pretty good shape.

 

[1fansopinion]

Kansas and UVA are the best choices as not to be a homer.

Oklahoma stirs interest, but it's not happening.

This is exactly right. Oklahoma and Texas will NEVER be a part of the Big Ten...ever.

 

[candid]

The Big central is way to weak.

Rutgers and Kansas, prob about equal in ath. Rutgers was, and the RU fans know it, was added for the number of tvs. Maryland to break into the Atllantic states. Understand Ne wanting Ok and Kan but would bet on another push into the ACC for pop reasons.

 

[Charlie Marlow_rivals363743]

Exactly who in the ACC could the BiG TeN get at this point? There was a time when they were vulnerable, but they are pretty strong these days. Big 12 is the obvious target.

 

[GBR_Atlanta]

Choosing from the options above, I'd have to pick KU and Notre Dame. I just can't imagine that OU has a huge desire to play here. Football is where it's at, and the ACC and SEC would take Oklahoma with open arms. I'd hope this would shift the divisions a bit as well. I'd love to see another big name in the West.

 

[RedCap_rivals330392]

It still really confuses me why they let Rutgers and Maryland into the B1G. But as long as we have 14 teams now, it makes that much more sense to have 16 teams. Keep in mind this is just football.

They could split it into two groups of 8 teams :

B1G West --- (1)Nebraska (2)Oklahoma (3)Wisconsin (4)Illinois (5)Northwestern
(6)Kansas (7)Minnesota (8)Iowa

B1G East --- (1)Michigan State (2)OSU (3)Michigan (4)Indiana (5)Penn State (6)Maryland (7)Rutgers (8)Purdue


OR 4 groups of 4 team in the age of the Playoff System. Win 2 out of 3 in your group and play the winner of one of the other 4 group winner for the semifinals, then play the final 2. Just brainstorming here. Have no idea if this would work:

B1G West --- (1)Nebraska (2)Oklahoma (3)Kansas (4)Iowa

B1G North --- (1)Michigan State (2)Michigan (3)Illinois (4)Minnesota

B1G Central --- (1)Wisconsin (2)Northwestern (3)Purdue (4)Indiana

B1G East --- (1)OSU (2)Penn State (3)Maryland (4)Rutgers

Why are you confused about Rutgers and Maryland? Accept it or not, agree with or not BUT it was always about NYC and Washington D.C./Baltimore TV markets. It's never been much of a mystery.