Bill Nye, wow, if he is a spokesman for global warming, they need to get someone else

WVPATX

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What an idiot. Tucker Carlson asked him pretty simple questions and after much hemming and hawing, he made the following statements:

1. Global warming is 100% caused by man, beyond any doubt.
2. The science is settled on this "fact".
3. The earth's temperature would today be the same as the 1750 temperature without CO2 in the atmosphere.

Remember, we emerged from the Little Ice Age around 1850- 1860. Well before industrialization. As a result, the temperatures will begin to warm, it is called natural variation. So he believes our temps go back to 1750? Wow. BTW, he is NOT a scientist, he is a mechanical engineer.

I hope he remains a leading spokesman for global warming.
 

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What an idiot. Tucker Carlson asked him pretty simple questions and after much hemming and hawing, he made the following statements:

1. Global warming is 100% caused by man, beyond any doubt.
2. The science is settled on this "fact".
3. The earth's temperature would today be the same as the 1750 temperature without CO2 in the atmosphere.

Remember, we emerged from the Little Ice Age around 1850- 1860. Well before industrialization. As a result, the temperatures will begin to warm, it is called natural variation. So he believes our temps go back to 1750? Wow. BTW, he is NOT a scientist, he is a mechanical engineer.

I hope he remains a leading spokesman for global warming.

I just watched it. Bill Nye came off fine. Tucker Carlson wouldn't let him talk but that's a common tactic. Nye BTW did not say that global warming is 100% caused by humans but rather that there's a 100% chance that the current acceleration in warming is caused by humans, his point being that natural warming and cooling occur but the rate that which warming is occurring now is so fast that it's not natural, thus there's a 100% chance that humans are causing the acceleration. Note that that is different than saying that 100% of the warming is caused by humans.

You're right, he's not a scientist, he's a mechanical engineer, but you always discount what the scientists say anyway.
 
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I just watched it. Bill Nye came off fine. Tucker Carlson wouldn't let him talk but that's a common tactic. Nye BTW did not say that global warming is 100% caused by humans but rather that there's a 100% chance that the current acceleration in warming is caused by humans, his point being that natural warming and cooling occur but the rate that which warming is occurring now is so fast that it's not natural, thus there's a 100% chance that humans are causing the acceleration. Note that that is different than saying that 100% of the warming is caused by humans.

You're right, he's not a scientist, he's a mechanical engineer, but you always discount what the scientists say anyway.
I'd say a mechanical engineer is a scientist.
 

WVPATX

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I just watched it. Bill Nye came off fine. Tucker Carlson wouldn't let him talk but that's a common tactic. Nye BTW did not say that global warming is 100% caused by humans but rather that there's a 100% chance that the current acceleration in warming is caused by humans, his point being that natural warming and cooling occur but the rate that which warming is occurring now is so fast that it's not natural, thus there's a 100% chance that humans are causing the acceleration. Note that that is different than saying that 100% of the warming is caused by humans.

You're right, he's not a scientist, he's a mechanical engineer, but you always discount what the scientists say anyway.

Nice try. Real scientist never say a theory is 100% accurate. He is either a liar or stupid or both. He said we would have temps of the 1750's without CO2. He didn't even know about the emergence from the Little Ice Age in 1850 or so. No wonder he refuses to debate real climate scientists. He also insinuated that skeptics should be jailed.

Again, please, please keep him on tv spouting his global warming positions.
 

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Nice try. Real scientist never say a theory is 100% accurate. He is either a liar or stupid or both. He said we would have temps of the 1750's without CO2. He didn't even know about the emergence from the Little Ice Age in 1850 or so. No wonder he refuses to debate real climate scientists. He also insinuated that skeptics should be jailed.

Again, please, please keep him on tv spouting his global warming positions.

How is it that you know what real scientists say? So you're saying that real scientists wouldn't say that heliocentric theory (the theory that the earth goes around the sun) is 100% correct?

Bill Nye doesn't need to debate "real climate scientists" because his position doesn't differ from that of the consensus of "real climate scientists."
 

WVPATX

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I'd say a mechanical engineer is a scientist.

Wrong.

Science is about understanding the origins, nature, and behavior of the universe and all it contains.

Whereas engineering is about solving problems by rearranging the stuff of the world to make new things.

Engineering would not exist as we know it without science, but they are not the same.
 

WVPATX

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How is it that you know what real scientists say? So you're saying that real scientists wouldn't say that heliocentric theory (the theory that the earth goes around the sun) is 100% correct?

Bill Nye doesn't need to debate "real climate scientists" because his position doesn't differ from that of the consensus of "real climate scientists."

If it is 100%, the theory explains a FACT. No one that I know of, except Nye, claims with 100% certainty man's role in global warming. If you can offer up a reputable scientist that makes that claim, please do so.

What about those hundreds and hundreds of scientists that disagree? No need to debate them? Are you kidding me?

He's a coward because he is way out of his depth.
 
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If it is 100%, the theory explains a FACT. No one that I know of, except Nye, claims with 100% certainty man's role in global warming. If you can offer up a reputable scientist that makes that claim, please do so.

What about those hundreds and hundreds of scientists that disagree? No need to debate them? Are you kidding me?

He's a coward because he is way out of his depth.
Geez. What a piece of work you are. Go visit a hooker or something and let your frustrations out. Smell the roses every now and then. Hope you get help with your anger issues. Good luck.
 

WVPATX

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Geez. What a piece of work you are. Go visit a hooker or something and let your frustrations out. Smell the roses every now and then. Hope you get help with your anger issues. Good luck.

Hey, you're the one with the anger issues. I responded to that post with facts. Nye won't debate a real scientist, why? Because he knows he would get destroyed. Heck, he got destroyed by Carlson, a journalist. I also pointed out that when a theory is 100% correct that theory proves a fact. Global warming caused 100% by man is not proving a fact, that is false. I have not read a single scientist making that claim. Have you?

Are you still claiming an engineer and a scientist are the same?
 

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... his point being that natural warming and cooling occur but the rate that which warming is occurring now is so fast that it's not natural, thus there's a 100% chance that humans are causing the acceleration.

That's still a very very debatable point.

I'd say a mechanical engineer is a scientist.

I'm a computer engineer and I wouldn't consider myself a scientist per-say.
 

WVPATX

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That's still a very very debatable point.



I'm a computer engineer and I wouldn't consider myself a scientist per-say.

Agreed. Two different fields. As I posted:

Science is about understanding the origins, nature, and behavior of the universe and all it contains.

Whereas engineering is about solving problems by rearranging the stuff of the world to make new things.
 
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Hey, you're the one with the anger issues. I responded to that post with facts. Nye won't debate a real scientist, why? Because he knows he would get destroyed. Heck, he got destroyed by Carlson, a journalist. I also pointed out that when a theory is 100% correct that theory proves a fact. Global warming caused 100% by man is not proving a fact, that is false. I have not read a single scientist making that claim. Have you?

Are you still claiming an engineer and a scientist are the same?
Every day you are here pissing and moaning. Every. Single. Day. Evil liberals destroying the country. Conspiracies against your side. Those who disagree with you are cowards, idiots, unpatriotic, communists, yada yada. You are the epitome of what is wrong with political discourse in this country. You have issues. Address them. Your family undoubtedly will appreciate it. Now, back to adjusting glasses and cleaning lenses.
 

WVPATX

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Every day you are here pissing and moaning. Every. Single. Day. Evil liberals destroying the country. Conspiracies against your side. Those who disagree with you are cowards, idiots, unpatriotic, communists, yada yada. You are the epitome of what is wrong with political discourse in this country. You have issues. Address them. Your family undoubtedly will appreciate it. Now, back to adjusting glasses and cleaning lenses.

I enjoy starting debates. You would too if you won more often. I post on topics of the day. Others can choose to join, debate or ignore. Liberals are very, very lost these days so I understand your lashing out. I would too if my party were being systematically destroyed and turned into something I don't recognize. It has to be very, very difficult defending their positions. Keep up the good work though on fitting those glasses. It is very important that people have nice fitting glasses.
 

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What an idiot. Tucker Carlson asked him pretty simple questions and after much hemming and hawing, he made the following statements:

1. Global warming is 100% caused by man, beyond any doubt.
2. The science is settled on this "fact".
3. The earth's temperature would today be the same as the 1750 temperature without CO2 in the atmosphere.

Remember, we emerged from the Little Ice Age around 1850- 1860. Well before industrialization. As a result, the temperatures will begin to warm, it is called natural variation. So he believes our temps go back to 1750? Wow. BTW, he is NOT a scientist, he is a mechanical engineer.

I hope he remains a leading spokesman for global warming.
Not related, but can you imagine?

The year 1816 is known as the Year Without a Summer(also the Poverty Year, the Summer that Never Was, Year There Was No Summer, and Eighteen Hundred and Froze to Death) because of severe climate abnormalities that caused average global temperatures to decrease by 0.4–0.7 °C (0.7–1.3 °F).

America would have been a good place to be. At least there would have been plenty of meat.
 

WVPATX

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Not related, but can you imagine?

The year 1816 is known as the Year Without a Summer(also the Poverty Year, the Summer that Never Was, Year There Was No Summer, and Eighteen Hundred and Froze to Death) because of severe climate abnormalities that caused average global temperatures to decrease by 0.4–0.7 °C (0.7–1.3 °F).

America would have been a good place to be. At least there would have been plenty of meat.

As Dyson notes, the very modest warming has been highly beneficial to the world. Cold is much more dangerous. And the CO2 has helped to green the earth. We have had an 18 year pause in any warming. NOAA has been cited by a whistle blower as manipulating data to make the warming seem more significant and dangerous as did East Anglia (from the email leak).

Dyson also suggests that in 50 years, fossil fuels will likely be a thing of the past and even if the planet is warming, 50 years is nothing in terms of climate changes which are measured in hundreds of years not something as small as 50.