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Though some public health experts expected coronavirus transmission to wane in the summer as temperatures rise and the air becomes more humid, cases have actually skyrocketed in some of the hottest and stickiest parts of the country.

Engineers and ventilation experts said this may be in part because residents escape the heat by retreating indoors where heating, ventilation and air conditioning (HVAC) systems could exacerbate airborne transmission with unplanned air currents.

“The main way (air conditioning) can contribute to spreading coronavirus is by creating strong air currents that can move the droplets … and contribute to increase risk,” said William Bahnfleth, chair of the American Society of Heating, Refrigerating and Air-Conditioning Engineers’ Epidemic Task Force (ASHRAE) and professor at Penn State University.

Even in bars and restaurants where social distancing is observed, air ventilation can carry respiratory droplets or aerosols that contain virus, said Len Horovitz, pulmonary specialist at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City.
 
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bornaneer said:
Though some public health experts expected coronavirus transmission to wane in the summer as temperatures rise and the air becomes more humid, cases have actually skyrocketed in some of the hottest and stickiest parts of the country.

Engineers and ventilation experts said this may be in part because residents escape the heat by retreating indoors where heating, ventilation and air conditioning (HVAC) systems could exacerbate airborne transmission with unplanned air currents.

“The main way (air conditioning) can contribute to spreading coronavirus is by creating strong air currents that can move the droplets … and contribute to increase risk,” said William Bahnfleth, chair of the American Society of Heating, Refrigerating and Air-Conditioning Engineers’ Epidemic Task Force (ASHRAE) and professor at Penn State University.

Even in bars and restaurants where social distancing is observed, air ventilation can carry respiratory droplets or aerosols that contain virus, said Len Horovitz, pulmonary specialist at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City.
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I farted 15 min ago, prevailing wind pattern and speed should reach NY City by 5pm.........
 
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bornaneer said:
Though some public health experts expected coronavirus transmission to wane in the summer as temperatures rise and the air becomes more humid, cases have actually skyrocketed in some of the hottest and stickiest parts of the country.

Engineers and ventilation experts said this may be in part because residents escape the heat by retreating indoors where heating, ventilation and air conditioning (HVAC) systems could exacerbate airborne transmission with unplanned air currents.

“The main way (air conditioning) can contribute to spreading coronavirus is by creating strong air currents that can move the droplets … and contribute to increase risk,” said William Bahnfleth, chair of the American Society of Heating, Refrigerating and Air-Conditioning Engineers’ Epidemic Task Force (ASHRAE) and professor at Penn State University.

Even in bars and restaurants where social distancing is observed, air ventilation can carry respiratory droplets or aerosols that contain virus, said Len Horovitz, pulmonary specialist at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City.
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it 'may' play a role. If it played that large a role then everyone would have it as most people have been in public building since this started.
 
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moe said:
it 'may' play a role. If it played that large a role then everyone would have it as most people have been in public building since this started.
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I believe it was as major factor in many cases.
Exhibit A.....New York City
Exhibit B.....Nursing homes.
 
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More lunacy from S l o w Moe. "Most people have been in public building since this started?" Really? Many people have been working from, or hiding at, home. Moreover, the air conditioning wasn't on in most places in March or April. Further, the only time that MoeRon is in a public building is when he's at his local Social Security Administration's office looking for his check.
 
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tOSUGrad90 said:
More lunacy from S l o w Moe. "Most people have been in public building since this started?" Really? Many people have been working from, or hiding at, home. Moreover, the air conditioning wasn't on in most places in March or April. Further, the only time that MoeRon is in a public building is when he's at his local Social Security Administration's office looking for his check.
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Air and heating was definitely on in NYC during March and April.
 
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bornaneer said:
I believe it was as major factor in many cases.
Exhibit A.....New York City
Exhibit B.....Nursing homes.
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You're entitled to your beliefs but how about recent outbreaks? I'd say it's from close proximity with no masks from kids in bars and other people socializing outdoors.
 
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Well, we know the impact of Legionnaires' disease in a well ventilated building...this is exactly the same. Just trade a bacteria for a virus.
 
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You're entitled to your beliefs but how about recent outbreaks? I'd say it's from close proximity with no masks from kids in bars and other people socializing outdoors.
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You are probably correct......Bars are a definite
No-brainer.
 
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moe said:
You're entitled to your beliefs but how about recent outbreaks? I'd say it's from close proximity with no masks from kids in bars and other people socializing outdoors.
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Have socialized outdoors and indoors. Have not gotten the virus nor has anyone I know. Continue with your BS it's become comical. We all need a good laugh now and then.


Where's your mask mister?


There there now. I'll find the mean man that stole your mask.
 
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The heat was probably jacked up in New York nursing homes in the Spring, but plenty of people would have died there, anyway.
 
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bornaneer said:
You are probably correct......Bars are a definite
No-brainer.
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I agree with both you and Moe and the other morons are being stupid. There are many contributing factors including proximity and air currents and ventilation in buildings and in a small measure is surface contact. People with agendas will deny certain aspects of things the scientists are learning for political positioning.
 
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And yes it is true, most buildings of size have the Air on even in the middle of the winter when the Heat is also on.
 
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bornaneer said:
Lets agree to disagree.....I believe any type of enclosed air movement could be a problem.
I did tons of business in NYC.....I can promise you that air controlled systems are on 24/7 year round in most of apartments and businesses there.
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I take your word for it, as I don't live or work in NYC or in a large building, for that matter. We don't have any disagreement regarding the likely effects of "enclosed air movement." There has to be a connection between the uptick in positive cases in the Sun Belt, and the people there escaping the heat by staying inside in air conditioning. Transient Mexican migrant workers in the border towns have been identified as another possible source of greater transmission of the virus, too.
 
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WVUALLEN said:
Have socialized outdoors and indoors. Have not gotten the virus nor has anyone I know. Continue with your BS it's become comical. We all need a good laugh now and then.


Where's your mask mister?


There there now. I'll find the mean man that stole your mask.
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60k+/day now, highest ever, you might not have noticed.
 
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tOSUGrad90 said:
I take your word for it, as I don't live or work in NYC or in a large building, for that matter. We don't have any disagreement regarding the likely effects of "enclosed air movement." There has to be a connection between the uptick in positive cases in the Sun Belt, and the people there escaping the heat by staying inside in air conditioning. Transient Mexican migrant workers in the border towns have been identified as another possible source of greater transmission of the virus, too.
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And...those workers live in very confined crowded quarters.....plus very few wear masks.
 
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tOSUGrad90 said:
And, many use crowded subways to go to and from work, shop, etc.
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Yes they do in NYC.....but they do not have many subways in the Salinas Valley in California.
Plus.....the virus outbreak among the meat processing plants was do to the workers living in very confined quarters......12 to a room is not good.
 
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moe said:
Yes, 60k+ actual living American people testing positive daily. We're number 1, thanks Trump.
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People I have met in freaking person you libtard dumbass. No it's not because of Trump. STUPID moeron.
 
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People I have met in freaking person you libtard dumbass. No it's not because of Trump. STUPID moeron.
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I know it's hard but try thinking of someone other than yourself for just once. This pandemic is not about you.
 
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moe said:
I know it's hard but try thinking of someone other than yourself for just once. This pandemic is not about you.
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Nor is it about you. DUMBASS! Don't try pushing your ******** on others and act like you know 100% of what the hell is going on.
 
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moe said:
Yes, 60k+ actual living American people testing positive daily. We're number 1, thanks Trump.
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Fewer people are dying and that makes our dead rate very, very low. That's great news, now get out there and get football started.
 
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moe said:
I know it's hard but try thinking of someone other than yourself for just once. This pandemic is not about you.
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It's not about Trump either, but that doesn't stop the BS flowing from you and other leftists.
 
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