blame the officials???? what game were you five year olds watching

[clydefrazier]

we gave up 179 yards to 60 on kickoff returns alone
auburn averaged five yards a rush
we had 10 penalties, some costly 15 yard penalties that were not bad calls
we have a coach that doesnt challenge a critical fourth and 1 in the the third quarter that is a game changer
our qb missed several tds
Refs didnt cost us this game,
why do you have a 6'4 240 pound qb run from under center and go latteral instead of shotgun?

 

[clydefrazier]

we gave up 179 yards to 60 on kickoff returns alone
auburn averaged five yards a rush
we had 10 penalties, some costly 15 yard penalties that were not bad calls
we have a coach that doesnt challenge a critical fourth and 1 in the the third quarter that is a game changer
our qb missed several tds
Refs didnt cost us this game,
why do you have a 6'4 240 pound qb run from under center and go latteral instead of shotgun?

 

[Goat Grindin]

I suggest going to a vacant room, punching a pillow until your anger is gone, then posting about this game. They just beat us, as sickening as it is. What's worse is why these things keep happening to us. We are MSU.

 

[birdawg]

mn

 

[shsdawg]

That play WAS reviewed. They all are. You don't blow a time out in the third quater on something that was already being done. I agree about the kick off coverage and the defense. The stupid penalties hurt bad too.

 

[Temple of the Dawg]

but as crappy as we played, we still had a shot to win. With an evenly called game, we most likely do win despite our piss poor play.

B.S. call on Whitley that put them at the 15 right before half
Giving Dyer an additional half yard on a 3rd & 5 when he picked up 4 & 1/2 which led to...
Phantom 1st down for AU that led to a TD
Non-review at least of Ballard's play.
Dan having to beg for a time-out by running to the 1 yard line to get the official's attention.

 

[tcprdr321]

The better question is what game were YOU watching. I agree that MSU probably lost this game on their own -- they made mistakes and they seemed to lose passion at times....Auburn came to play -- but MSU definitely got some help on this loss. It should have never come down to that final questionable play. I work in sports broadcasting and have seen more games than I can count, and I have to say that this was some of the worst play-calling I have ever seen.....and many of mycolleagues(who have noaffiliationwith MSU whatsoever) agree.

 

[MaxwellSmart]

and our D and ST's suck but we played back and put ourselves in position to take it to OT, that is why the ref ineptness is so 17'ng hard to swallow.

 

[Goat Grindin]

Ballard didn't get in the endzone either.<div>
</div><div>We just got beat, and it sucks badly. Oh well.</div>

 

[Dawgzilla]

I assume that was what you were talking about. Anyway, Mullen could have challenged the spot of the ball, but that wasn't going to be changed. The spot was actually pretty accurate, and I don't think the review official would have decided to back the ball up an inch or two. The measurement certainly looked short from our camera angle, but you can't review a measurement.

And it sucks that Dan had to beg for a timeout, but they gave us back 3 seconds.

 

[thatsbaseball]

emotions ? I get emotional everytime I get cheated and most people who have a pair do too. </p>

 

[MississippiHeavyMetalDawg]

we should've beaten them by more than 7**

 

[bulliegolfer]

The first down they gave AU(inch short) was questionable. But overall we put ourselves in this situation with poor special teams play and a soft defense. And that's a lot of your team.

 

[GoState05]

http://www.sectalk.com/bo...820669ef46e9993cfd-1.jpg

<div>
</div><div>Or at least, they say it was. Doesn't mean they actually reviewed it.</div>

 

[shsdawg]

I assume that was what you were talking about. Anyway, Mullen could have challenged the spot of the ball, but that wasn't going to be changed. The spot was actually pretty accurate, and I don't think the review official would have decided to back the ball up an inch or two. The measurement certainly looked short from our camera angle, but you can't review a measurement.

 

[Temple of the Dawg]

I watched it five or 6 times during halftime. Whitley led with his shoulder. The force of the hit caused Blake's head to snap forward and smack into Whitley's.

Pretty sure Ballard scored too but I can see that not getting called.

 

[thatsbaseball]

nm

 

[clydefrazier]

on the auburn side set his foot down about 6 inches inside the 30 and they gave the spot to the MSU side line judge.the ball, in my non-objective opinon never crossed. I just hate every loss being an officials winefest yet when we win, we never say, the refs screwed the other guys. You can't give up 179 yards in kick off return yards and win the game especially when you are running, ball control team

 

[shsdawg]

I agree that pic looks short. But I can tell you how to make it look that way when it's actually not short. Remember they aren't stretching the chain over the middle of the ball. When it's that close the angles don't have to be much off exactly parallel at all. We lost the game on defense and on kickoff coverage.

 

[bulliegolfer]

chains and quickly calling it a first down. They didn't study it much at all.

 

[RougeDawg]

We got screwed on that 4th down call periodn... But we should come to
Expect that on the road. These toolbars are rolling Harvey's corner like they won the NC.

 

[MississippiHeavyMetalDawg]

When your camera is on the same yard line as the ball, I don't care how far the ball is away from the chain. The camera was 90 degrees from the direction of the chain. He didn't make it. The State players saw it. The Auburn players saw it. The TV cameras saw it. The refs and you apparently didn't.

 

[Dawgzilla]

Let's say the refs don't call it a first down, and MSU gets the ball. How do you know Relf doesn't throw another pick 6 on the very next play? There's just no telling. I certainly wish the Refs would be 100% accurate on every play, but officiating is just part of the game. The Refs wish they were 100% accurate to. You have to overcome everything to win: The opposing team, the fans, the weather, the Refs, the funny bounces....everything.

 

[Goat Grindin]

nm

 

[shsdawg]

slightly behind 90 degrees. What I actually SAW was exactly what you saw, it looked slightlyshort. I also know that VERY slight viewangle changes with the camera or your eyemake all the difference in the world in what you see. I'm not saying he got it. I'm just pointing out that the camera, and your eye, can lie when you are talking that minute of a difference. I deal with this every day on the job.

 

[blacklistedbully]

And considering how we drove against them at the end, it's likely we would have done the same had we been given the ball after a big-time stop on 4th down.<div>
</div><div>Yes, we were soft on defense, but not as soft as Auburn. The way I figure it, the refs were good for about a 25 point swing. Even the very first TD they scored was helped along greatly by the offsides call on us when it was clear it should have been called on Auburn. Hell, you could even tell from the Auburn lineman's body language he knew he was guilty.</div><div>
</div><div>We did not play a good game defensively or on ST, but we also did not deserve to lose to Auburn. Normally when one team dominates the other statistically in total yardage, total first downs & third-down efficiency, the only way the dominated team wins is due to a turnover advantage. As there was none in this game, I can only point to the refs, even if we should have been good enough to overcome a blown call or 2.</div>

 

[markymark.sixpack]

Maybe that was a first down , but the spot was awful anyway. Shoulda been about 12 inches short.
1st qtr - there was an obvious block in the back on dyer's first TD run. The ref just wasn't looking and missed it.
Also in the first, Marcus green false started after an auburn player jumped into the neutral zone. They called it on us and cost us a first down.

I don't blame the refs, but they didn't help matters either. They helped dig that 14 pt hole, even if it was unintentional.

 

[dogfan96]

I love how we can never complain about getting +!%+*@ over by the refs just bc we didn't play a perfect game.

 

[Repeat Offender]

we should not even try to challenge plays even if there is conclusive video evidence. We might win the challenge, but we could really 17 up the next play. That is the dumbest **** that I have ever read. We might 17 *!%! up the play if we lose the challenge too. BUT, Ballard could just as easily break off a long run for a TD. When all or at least 90 percent of the refs mistakes or "questionable" calls favor Auburn, there is a problem. Well maybe not, if we win a challenge, there is that peskyrisk that our players may decide to take the snap then run the wrong direction and score for the other team. I get it now, makes perfect sense. Damn, I really hope that my reading comprehension skills were damaged by the emotional loss. If not, 17 it, there is really nothing else for meto say.</p>

 

[thatsbaseball]

on this board in a long time.

 

[jjlacher99]

I agree it sucks to lose, but it should of never came down to the last play or all the other plays being talked about. I have been on the good end of the stick at state and the bad end. All we can do is get ready for LSU now and create a great atmosphere on Thursday.

 

[Dawgzilla]

That's not at all what I'm saying. Certainly, we want to get all the calls to go our way. What I'm saying is you cannot blame a loss on a bad call, or even claim that reversing one particular play would have resulted in a different final score. If it was a bad call (and I actually think that first down was the right call), you get over it and move on to the next play.

Even if the first down call was bad, the refs did not give Auburn a TD. The defense gave up a TD 3 plays later.

 

[Dawgzilla]

And all I'm saying is you cannot claim that one particular play in the 3rd quarter was the difference in the game.

Sure, if that play happened in the final minute, you might have a good argument. But that one play did not even result in an Auburn TD. It kept a drive alive that ended in a TD, but know one knows what would have happened if the call had gone the other way.