Bloomberg? Is he for real, OR is this a plan?

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He's announced that if Sanders gets the nomination, he'll run. If Hillary gets it, he won't. Is he setting up a potential run WITH Hillary as her VP candidate? It would definitely someone that could go toe-to-toe with Trump, considering Bloomberg is worth 10X more wealth than Trump......
 

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He's announced that if Sanders gets the nomination, he'll run. If Hillary gets it, he won't. Is he setting up a potential run WITH Hillary as her VP candidate? It would definitely someone that could go toe-to-toe with Trump, considering Bloomberg is worth 10X more wealth than Trump......
I don't think he would be picked as Hillary vp mate. He sees the same thing i see. It is tough to see either Bernie vs trump or Bernie vs Cruz in a general election being good for the country.
 

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I don't think he would be picked as Hillary vp mate. He sees the same thing i see. It is tough to see either Bernie vs trump or Bernie vs Cruz in a general election being good for the country.

Bernie vs any republican would be good for the country. it would insure that a dem doesn't take office.:sunglasses:
 

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He's announced that if Sanders gets the nomination, he'll run. If Hillary gets it, he won't. Is he setting up a potential run WITH Hillary as her VP candidate? It would definitely someone that could go toe-to-toe with Trump, considering Bloomberg is worth 10X more wealth than Trump......
I don't see him getting any traction. Multi-billionaire who cut his political teeth in a very liberal urban climate. Not what we need.
 

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I don't think he would be picked as Hillary vp mate. He sees the same thing i see. It is tough to see either Bernie vs trump or Bernie vs Cruz in a general election being good for the country.

Trump or Cruz versus any for the Dem nominees is not good for the country... but I think that's where we are heading. I suspect it'll be Trump v Clinton baring an indictment on Clinton for her email server. At that point I'd expect Uncle Joe to jump into the fray and run.
 

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Trump or Cruz versus any for the Dem nominees is not good for the country... but I think that's where we are heading. I suspect it'll be Trump v Clinton baring an indictment on Clinton for her email server. At that point I'd expect Uncle Joe to jump into the fray and run.
I don't expect any indictments on Hillary. I know conservatives want one and it will be a controversy forever, but I just don't see it. At least not yet.
 

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I don't expect any indictments on Hillary. I know conservatives want one and it will be a controversy forever, but I just don't see it. At least not yet.

I don't either. Not because she shouldn't but because Lynch will chose not to. She should be indicted. She did far worse than Patreaus
 

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I don't expect any indictments on Hillary. I know conservatives want one and it will be a controversy forever, but I just don't see it. At least not yet.
Legitimately, there has been enough released to warrant an indictment. The email from last week or the week prior about her directing her underlings to remove the classified headers and send it unsecure is basically "the smoking gun". I'm not sure how much time or if you have ever worked in an environment where classified documents handling occurs, but for anyone who has, something like that would be enough to find any normal person without a clearance at best and at worst in jail.
 

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Legitimately, there has been enough released to warrant an indictment. The email from last week or the week prior about her directing her underlings to remove the classified headers and send it unsecure is basically "the smoking gun". I'm not sure how much time or if you have ever worked in an environment where classified documents handling occurs, but for anyone who has, something like that would be enough to find any normal person without a clearance at best and at worst in jail.

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In the non-Hillary world, anyone else would've already been locked up.
 

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In the non-Hillary world, anyone else would've already been locked up.
That article is hilarious. It reminds of the "It's part of a vast Right Wing conspiracy".

I understand how people who don't work with classified information could misinterpret what is transpiring, however, there is no question she is in the wrong by anyone who understands material handling. She is trying to skate on semantics and technicalities. It's embarrassing.
 

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That article is hilarious. It reminds of the "It's part of a vast Right Wing conspiracy".

I understand how people who don't work with classified information could misinterpret what is transpiring, however, there is no question she is in the wrong by anyone who understands material handling. She is trying to skate on semantics and technicalities. It's embarrassing.

Special Access Program status means if it leaks, someone we like(spy) is gonna die, right?
 

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Telling your subordinates to remove the classified markings and fax it for one.
And that's worse than actually showing top secret information to a non-gov't civilian with no security clearance?
 
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And that's worse than actually showing top secret information to a civilian with no security clearance?

Of course it is.....you know that. Petraeus is a Republican, what he did it was out of the good of the nation. Hillary is a Democrat, thus what she does it pure evil and should be condemned.

Haven't you picked up that theme on this board yet? [roll]
 

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Of course it is.....you know that. Petraeus is a Republican, what he did it was out of the good of the nation. Hillary is a Democrat, thus what she does it pure evil and should be condemned.

Haven't you picked up that theme on this board yet? [roll]
I'm sorry, I must have missed it. Anyone saying Petraeus should not have been in trouble? We are using Petraeus as a benchmark for what SHOULD happen. Deflect away though.
 

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I don't see him getting any traction. Multi-billionaire who cut his political teeth in a very liberal urban climate. Not what we need.
All of the fattys would not vote for him. The Nanny State would overtake entire US if he is elected.
 

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And that's worse than actually showing top secret information to a non-gov't civilian with no security clearance?

Patreaus honey trap had some security clearance or she wouldn't have been doing a book on him. Wasn't she in the military at that time too?
 

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Of course it is.....you know that. Petraeus is a Republican, what he did it was out of the good of the nation. Hillary is a Democrat, thus what she does it pure evil and should be condemned.

Haven't you picked up that theme on this board yet? [roll]

She is not evil. She violated law just like Patreaus and should get the same treatment as Petreaus.
 

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I believe she was a LtCol.
Your memory is better than mine. I looked her up, and she had been selected for Lt Col, but that was pulled when the investigation began. I'm assuming that she's no longer in the Army Reserves given that she admitted to the affair.
 

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Your memory is better than mine. I looked her up, and she had been selected for Lt Col, but that was pulled when the investigation began. I'm assuming that she's no longer in the Army Reserves given that she admitted to the affair.

No love for me? I remembered it too.:boxing: She had some clearance if she were a major.
 

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No love for me? I remembered it too.:boxing: She had some clearance if she were a major.
Rank doesn't necessarily imply clearance. Her career had been military intelligence at one time though, and that would certainly imply that she had a clearance. And sorry that I didn't include you on the memory kudos. I was completely wrong in my recollection.
 

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Rank doesn't necessarily imply clearance. Her career had been military intelligence at one time though, and that would certainly imply that she had a clearance.

Would she have more clearance that Weiner's wife?
 

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Would she have more clearance that Weiner's wife?
I have no idea what Weiner's wife's clearance is. I do know this - if she didn't have need to know, it doesn't matter if she had the correct level of clearance. Also, the problem was that she had classified stuff on an unclassified computer. They never proved that Patraeus gave it to her, but that's what really kicked off the investigation after the initial complaint by the woman who was threatened.
 

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I have no idea what Weiner's wife's clearance is. I do know this - if she didn't have need to know, it doesn't matter if she had the correct level of clearance. Also, the problem was that she had classified stuff on an unclassified computer. They never proved that Patraeus gave it to her, but that's what really kicked off the investigation after the initial complaint by the woman who was threatened.

Patreaus screwed up in more ways than one. Did you kown that Patreaus was shot in a live fire exercise, in the chest? they air lifted him to a Nashville hospital and a surgeon in shorts met them on the roof. That surgeon was former Senator Bill Frist. Patreaus was very critical and almost died. Do you think Hilary was as guilty as the General?
 

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Would she have more clearance that Weiner's wife?
If I had to take a guess, with her being in MI, she would have had a TS-SCI. It still doesn't mean she had the "Need to Know". Weiner's wife as special asst to the SoS probably had the same clearance. She probably had the "need to know" but that's irrelevant being the SA to the SoS. Pretty sure Hill could read anyone on she felt necessary. Regardless, Hillary is guilty as hell of mishandling classified material as is anyone who worked for her who followed through with her directive to declassify material for submission on an unsecure system.

I think you are seeing "strategic leaks" in order to put pressure on the DoJ to indict her. It most certainly isn't a Right Wing Conspiracy. This is a bunch of pissed off people in the Justice system being held back from pursuing legal action. They are going to do what it takes to circumvent roadblocks to ensure they can meter out justice. 95% of the people in the Justice system are party agnostic when it comes to pursuit of Justice regardless of their personal party affiliation. I've got a couple of friends who I've spoken to at the Treasury and with the DoJ and they are pretty pissed.

And I just made up the 95% fact. Sounds good though, right?
 

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It is amazing what the public settles for in their leadership or candidates. Nearly everyone running on each side is bad for the country. Power is being influenced too much by money. People supporting trump are an amazing bunch like those turning their backs on Hilary's violations of highly classified information. Any soldier doing what she would be jailed. I believe supporters of Hillary both don't care about her actions nor want them prosecuted. That too is revealing about the depths people go oppose another candidate. Supporters of trump are in another world too. Imagine if half of what he says is true? Much of what he says is proven false but supporters don't care. Their support for him is likely a sign they sign car loans and no nothing about borrowing money. I really don't understand support for Hillary as she is a pig corrupt with the lust for historical notoriety while trump is a dangerous idiot. Just look at trump's handling of the usfl. He practically destroyed it. Cruz is a nightmare too. No one is blameless if these clowns are the best your money can buy.
 

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If I had to take a guess, with her being in MI, she would have had a TS-SCI. It still doesn't mean she had the "Need to Know". Weiner's wife as special asst to the SoS probably had the same clearance. She probably had the "need to know" but that's irrelevant being the SA to the SoS. Pretty sure Hill could read anyone on she felt necessary. Regardless, Hillary is guilty as hell of mishandling classified material as is anyone who worked for her who followed through with her directive to declassify material for submission on an unsecure system.

I think you are seeing "strategic leaks" in order to put pressure on the DoJ to indict her. It most certainly isn't a Right Wing Conspiracy. This is a bunch of pissed off people in the Justice system being held back from pursuing legal action. They are going to do what it takes to circumvent roadblocks to ensure they can meter out justice. 95% of the people in the Justice system are party agnostic when it comes to pursuit of Justice regardless of their personal party affiliation. I've got a couple of friends who I've spoken to at the Treasury and with the DoJ and they are pretty pissed.

And I just made up the 95% fact. Sounds good though, right?

I agree 100%[cheers]
 

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It is amazing what the public settles for in their leadership or candidates. Nearly everyone running on each side is bad for the country. Power is being influenced too much by money. People supporting trump are an amazing bunch like those turning their backs on Hilary's violations of highly classified information. Any soldier doing what she would be jailed. I believe supporters of Hillary both don't care about her actions nor want them prosecuted. That too is revealing about the depths people go oppose another candidate. Supporters of trump are in another world too. Imagine if half of what he says is true? Much of what he says is proven false but supporters don't care. Their support for him is likely a sign they sign car loans and no nothing about borrowing money. I really don't understand support for Hillary as she is a pig corrupt with the lust for historical notoriety while trump is a dangerous idiot. Just look at trump's handling of the usfl. He practically destroyed it. Cruz is a nightmare too. No one is blameless if these clowns are the best your money can buy.
Solid analysis, and I find it hard to disagree with a word of it.
 

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Joe Biden looks like he could have been one of the most solid candidates if he had decided to run. This would have been a year that someone like Mitt Romney or John McCain would have won. This is a pathetic field, to say the least. But there are a few candidates that should NEVER be given any power....they are that scary and crazy.