Bobby Bowden on Dan Patrick show
- Thread starter msubullie4life
- Start date
about the all-time wins record. Even if NCAA reinstates those 14 wins, you got to remember that he had 31 wins at Howard College (Samford) which never played major college football. They consistently played against powerhouses like Tennesse Tech Freshmen Team, Gordon Junior College, University of Mexico, etc.
Bobby Bowden is tainting his legacy by not just sticking around longer than he should, he's also getting senile by the day with comments like the ones quoted in the link.
He's just making it difficult for FSU. He made FSU into what it is today but he should have stepped down a few years ago.
Bobby Bowden is tainting his legacy by not just sticking around longer than he should, he's also getting senile by the day with comments like the ones quoted in the link.
He's just making it difficult for FSU. He made FSU into what it is today but he should have stepped down a few years ago.
Consider the fact that Howard wasn't playing with D1 talent so Bowden still had to do some coaching. If Jim Tressell lasts long enough to challenge Paterno, it won't bother me if his wins with Youngstown State are included.
Bear in mind that Penn State was an independent for years and feasted on Army, Navy, Rutgers, Temple, etc. over the years. FSU, rather than join the SEC, chose to waltz through the ACC for a decade before encountering any lasting competition from within that conference. Bear Bryant refused to play certain teams unless they came to Alabama or played at a neutral site. So there are plenty of caveats to be spread around.
If we truly want to compare apples to apples, we probably need to take the records and apply an RPI-type formula to see which coach has done a better job of getting his teams to perform well over the years.
Bear in mind that Penn State was an independent for years and feasted on Army, Navy, Rutgers, Temple, etc. over the years. FSU, rather than join the SEC, chose to waltz through the ACC for a decade before encountering any lasting competition from within that conference. Bear Bryant refused to play certain teams unless they came to Alabama or played at a neutral site. So there are plenty of caveats to be spread around.
If we truly want to compare apples to apples, we probably need to take the records and apply an RPI-type formula to see which coach has done a better job of getting his teams to perform well over the years.
Penn State may have feasted on teams like Army, Navy, etc. for years, but those teams were still far better than anybody Howard ever faced. If you're going to include non-Division I-A games, neither Bowden nor Paterno is anywhere near the record. John Gagliardi has 461 wins and Eddie Robinson has 408.