Booing

[LmdCat]

Oh burn! Boo on my dood, boo on!

Have you not had your bottle of milk yet? Kids they say the craziest things.

For what it is worth, had you read my post more closely, you would have notice that I said I wouldn't have booed, but it isn't for me to tell other fans what they can and can't do.

 

[Lempface]

Have you not had your bottle of milk yet? Kids they say the craziest things.

For what it is worth, had you read my post more closely, you would have notice that I said I wouldn't have booed, but it isn't for me to tell other fans what they can and can't do.

And if you read mine post you’d realize I wasn’t telling anyone to act any certain way just stating that behaviors that are legal don’t always reflect a persons image well to onlookers.

 

[Crawfords Corner]

Id like to listen to it for myself. Does anyone know how much time was left in the game when it happened. I have the game taped

 

[Gus Chiggins_]

Booing hurts feelings. Let’s not hurt their feelings. Maybe they should have cheered to really give them confidence

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

Still doesn’t deserve to be booed . He’s not even out there with a bad attitude . He’s clearly struggling and just not meeting expectations . But even when on the bench he isn’t sulking

No need to boo him. If this team has any chance of making any noise we better hope he finds confidence and starts playing like many expected .

Never boo the kids. Come on people. Just not acceptable. He is struggling. I agree with Cal on this. Don't boo the kid.

 

[revcort]

I will admit the play that got booed, which was near near end of the first half, was really bad. It aggravated me, too, especially given that we were digging ourselves a hole score-wise at the time. But I'm not gonna boo. He will come around. (Boston, I mean) He needs confidence more that anything right now. He did have some good plays tonight. Only scored 6, but all 6 were on drives to the goal and high percentage baskets, and a couple of those plays were the kind that few others on either team could have made. That euro-step of his around the goal is very good.

 

[michael895]

Never boo kids in college, just a really stupid thing to do. You wanna boo players making millions in the pros, fine, but a bunch of middle-aged men booing a 19-year-old in college is trash.

 

[bbnkat02]

Yeah they are pros. Do not attempt to pretend like these 5 star players are just regular college athletes. Many of these guys wouldn't even be in college if they could go directly to the NBA. Should the fans boo? I wouldn't have, but if you are going to take your time and money to go watch these games, you should be able to do anything that isn't considered unauthorized or illegal.

Like scream the n-word at opposing fans?
Sadly behavior at Rupp in the past couple of years is lacking.

 

[bbnkat02]

Booing hurts feelings. Let’s not hurt their feelings. Maybe they should have cheered to really give them confidence

Booing an 18-19 year kid playing a sport most fans never have shows an extreme lack of class.

 

[TankedCat]

not going to boo players, they are doing at worst what they are allowed to do, and at best, told to do.

giving Cal hell for continuing his approach - 100%

 

[Random UK Fan_rivals71127]

What on earth happened to make that many people simultaneously become agitated, without choreographing the reaction?

 

[HagginHall1999]

Was Boston boo'd tonight? Couldn't hear it on tv.

Not sure if anyone responded, but yes there was a grumbling I heard late in first half.

 

[ZaytovenCat]

Sports are simple. You play good and you’re cheered. Play bad and you’re booed. BBN has held back longer on the booing than a lot of crowds would have. You should just be glad they weren’t booed sooner. They should have been booed going off the floor of the Richmond game.

 

[Trinity45]

When you take selfish, Ill-advised shots, you deserve to get boo’d. It’s one thing if you are just struggling, no one should boo a struggling UK player who is competing and giving it their all. However, when you completely high-jack the team’s offense, that’s a completely different story.

I disagree, we should not be booing anyone in the KY uniform just because they are not playing well is not an excuse. I personally don't see how this kid was a 5 star but booing is out of line.

 

[HagginHall1999]

Yeah they are pros. Do not attempt to pretend like these 5 star players are just regular college athletes. Many of these guys wouldn't even be in college if they could go directly to the NBA. Should the fans boo? I wouldn't have, but if you are going to take your time and money to go watch these games, you should be able to do anything that isn't considered unauthorized or illegal.

Pros get paid, they are not pros. Your time and money is your choice. Specifically, booing the college athletes of the team you root for is pathetic.

 

[ManitouDan_anon]

Were they booing him or Calipari? Seems like this distinction needs evidence one way or another before we give a loose narrative wings. Booing Boston is garbage but booing The Goodfella is within the rules.

thats my question. I recall being able. To hear some booing . I’m not sure who it was really directed at . Boston for taking an off balance jumper , early in the clock , around the top of the key that barely glazed the front of the rim ? Was that when this happened ?

ill Say this .. in about a year several of these “ kids “ will be playing for money . Some in a foreign Land maybe , some in some obscure town in Michigan or Utah or wherever . And they will be called everything but a milk cow . So this idea that booing night crush their poor little souls is quite naive and soft IMO. These “ kids “ go on tours charging for their autographs soon after they Leave the team , they shouldn’t be shielded from criticism IMO.

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

I heard it. I think it was near the end of the first half. We had ran the shot clock down and he jacked up a fadeaway turnaround jumper from the foul line extended that was off balance as well. I thought it was more booing the fact we had ran basically no offense for most of the shot clock and had to jack up a bad shot rather than booing him but maybe not.

Was Boston boo'd tonight? Couldn't hear it on tv.

 

[kyjeff1]

Then every analyst in the country is a bad evaluator because he was a consensus top recruit.

I think Devin, Cam, Ware and Toppin all are multi-year guys. They are all raw and I'm not sure any of them have real NBA potential. Jacob was gonna sit out this year and his brother played past his sophomore (edit: thought was junior but was redshirt soph) season so I don't see a huge rush in him.

Funny you say he just didn't get them, still the #1 class, I just think the composition of players are different.

If the kids improve enough to go NBA after next year then they deserve it and we probably will benefit from the large jump in skill set.

By all means, laugh it up though. You can be a fan in anyway you choose.

Yes, of course he landed the number one class, he has to. He loses most of his team every year, so he has to recruit more kids than everyone else. He gets those #1 or 2 classes by recruiting more kids.

From 09-14, he got #1 classes because he was landing bigtime stud players. Huge difference.

Yeah, most recruiting services severely missed on Boston, but part of his problem is, he's surrounded by other freshmen that are learning too.

High school and AAU are much different than college. Boston looks good in AAU type games and there aren't too many hs kids that can check him. But, I assume those that evaluated him were more focused on his measurables, length and his NBA potential. They damn sure didn't evaluate his skill and BB IQ.

As far as Toppin, Ware, Askew and Fletcher, you're out of your mind if you think any of them will be here beyong next year. Cam will transfer and the other three will jump just like EJ and Hagans did. The only dudes that stay here are Willis and Hawkins type kids. You thinking these guys are going to be here long term, tells me you aren't paying attention.

Cal didn't change his recruiting, he got who accepted his offers, many didn't, then he had to get transfers to fill in. But as long as he's doing pro days and prioritizing the draft/NBA contracts, we will continue this stupid roster churn bullcrap. He needs to change the culture and get this, it will take years… . once he actually decides to change it.

If he does another pro day next year, we will know that he hasn't changed the culture.

 

[kyjeff1]

I hope the fans booing was directed more towards Cal. for having Boston in the game. at least I hope so. Toppin looked much better than Boston. I have never seen a player with a longer leash. the kid must have pictures of Cal and the neighbors dog!

Yeah, but wouldn't that still be booing BJB?

I think most on here know that I am no BJB fan, but I would never boo the kid.

I just don't like the fact that he's stinking it up, but will still leave for the draft this year.

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

My only thing with this is what, as a parent, would you advise your kid to do if he had the talent to go directly to the NBA or even go after 1 year in college? Would you honestly advise him to go to college or finish college before making his millions? I mean a NBA players average career is 4.9 years so why waste the most athletic part of that time in college?

Yeah they are pros. Do not attempt to pretend like these 5 star players are just regular college athletes. Many of these guys wouldn't even be in college if they could go directly to the NBA. Should the fans boo? I wouldn't have, but if you are going to take your time and money to go watch these games, you should be able to do anything that isn't considered unauthorized or illegal.

 

[ManitouDan_anon]

Yes, of course he landed the number one class, he has to. He loses most of his team every year, so he has to recruit more kids than everyone else. He gets those #1 or 2 classes by recruiting more kids.

From 09-14, he got #1 classes because he was landing bigtime stud players. Huge difference.

Yeah, most recruiting services severely missed on Boston, but part of his problem is, he's surrounded by other freshmen that are learning too.

High school and AAU are much different than college. Boston looks good in AAU type games and there aren't too many hs kids that can check him. But, I assume those that evaluated him were more focused on his measurables, length and his NBA potential. They damn sure didn't evaluate his skill and BB IQ.

As far as Toppin, Ware, Askew and Fletcher, you're out of your mind if you think any of them will be here beyong next year. Cam will transfer and the other three will jump just like EJ and Hagans did. The only dudes that stay here are Willis and Hawkins type kids. You thinking these guys are going to be here long term, tells me you aren't paying attention.

Cal didn't change his recruiting, he got who accepted his offers, many didn't, then he had to get transfers to fill in. But as long as he's doing pro days and prioritizing the draft/NBA contracts, we will continue this stupid roster churn bullcrap. He needs to change the culture and get this, it will take years… . once he actually decides to change it.

If he does another pro day next year, we will know that he hasn't changed the culture.

Totally wrong Jeff . We won last night , all is well . Lol . As the tv announcer said at the horn last night “ Kentucky survives “. LOL

 

[TankedCat]

I don't think you should distinguish between an OAD and any other player on the team

If they are stinking the joint up - they may not be an OAD and return, and while its solely for selfish reasons, they *are* returning. (notice I said "may return")

that said, this is the danger of bringing in kids with a mercenary mentality. They aren't here for the college experience, they aren't here to wear the blue and white of Kentucky because of our legacy or what it means to the state. They are here to use the program and the program is using them. The "using them" part is to win and win big.

If they fail to deliver on their end of the agreement - and don't try to sell anyone on the idea they are regular college athletes, they clearly are not - then you see this type of thing happen.

UK fans have seen time and time again that should they fail to win or reach their pre-programmed, provided by the Sports Information Director goals of winning a national championship, it has zero bearing on their decision making process. There is no loyalty to the program, no desire to see a championship for UK, its 100% dedicated to next level beyond UK and leaving as fast as you can

When you have that mentality coming in from day 1, then you can't demand fan tolerance at the same level they would have for a Dontae Allen, a kid who most fans presume he grew up pretending to be a UK player in his driveway with 3 seconds left on the clock in a tie game who wants to hit the game winning shot. His dreams aren't wearing a LA Lakers jersey and playing next to LeBron, its seeing a banner raised in Rupp.

There is a clear difference there and the fans recognize it.

You're here to deliver wins. Thats the bargain - and in return you get to showcase your talents to earn a lucrative contract with the NBA.

Why should anyone expect fans to treat them any different than a pro?

 

[JRS_SC]

I was frustrated at that shot too, it was off balance and the game state was such that the game could have easily gotten away from us. But that said, the kid is going to be really good eventually IMO. Stick with the kids and let's see where they go.

Everyone is clamouring for Cal to change his strategy in recruiting and I thought he did that with this class. You know maybe 3 1nDones but a bunch of kids that will develop over a few years. So you want him to change it up it's going take some transition to the new system. It's just going more roughly because they two instant impact freshman were not as advertised thus far.

give this guy (or gal) a reward for an insightful, reasoned reply.

 

[kyjeff1]

I will admit the play that got booed, which was near near end of the first half, was really bad. It aggravated me, too, especially given that we were digging ourselves a hole score-wise at the time. But I'm not gonna boo. He will come around. (Boston, I mean) He needs confidence more that anything right now. He did have some good plays tonight. Only scored 6, but all 6 were on drives to the goal and high percentage baskets, and a couple of those plays were the kind that few others on either team could have made. That euro-step of his around the goal is very good.

Yeah, I agree.

I think the frustration stems from knowing this kid is doing things that are reminiscent of AAU ball and quite honestly, he has cost us some games, but he's still going to leave for the draft, because he has… "potential".

I still don't agree with booing.

But also, Sarr did the same thing in crunch time. Tie game with 20+ seconds on the shot clock, he took one step inside the 3pt line and fired a quick shot that missed. But you can't boo the guy that crushed it all game long.

 

[Stoneule88]

Not gonna tell other fans to boo or not to boo, but in all honesty in THIS UK program it doesnt bother me.
When you've cultivated a NBA-prep program, where kids are here only to get out of here as fast as possible, I have no issue with people booing these 1 and dones.

You've created a business-like atmosphere where these kids aren't amateurs, they're temps. This isn't college basketball anymore its the NBA H league. Boo away if you want.

 

[TankedCat]

another thing - there were what? 3K fans at the game?

You can hear the guy ordering a pretzel at the concession stand.

You get 3K hard core fans to go to this stinker of a game when UK is 2-6, you're going to hear some collective groans in unison to bad play. There just isn't alot of other crowd noise, opposing fans, etc to drown it out.

 

[BlueVelvetFog]

I just moon. Silent disapproval

 

[TankedCat]

Not gonna tell other fans to boo or not to boo, but in all honesty in THIS UK program it doesnt bother me.
When you've cultivated a NBA-prep program, where kids are here only to get out of here as fast as possible, I have no issue with people booing these 1 and dones.

You've created a business-like atmosphere where these kids aren't armatures, they're temps. This isn't college basketball anymore its the NBA H league. Boo away if you want.

temps - that's a good way to state it.

do you care about the temp /contract employee at work with the same level you do the employee who has been with the company? its a very transactional process - do the work, get the pay, move on when the work is done. They aren't going to the Xmas party or getting the bonus because they are never considered a dedicated part of the company.

 

[Stoneule88]

"a very transactional process" - UK Basketball, circa. 2010-2020

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

When you take selfish, Ill-advised shots, you deserve to get boo’d. It’s one thing if you are just struggling, no one should boo a struggling UK player who is competing and giving it their all. However, when you completely high-jack the team’s offense, that’s a completely different story.

I'm just not a fan of booing or attacking the players. I dont mind being critical but we have too many on here who attack the players.

 

[thepip]

Was Boston boo'd tonight? Couldn't hear it on tv.

Sam, Audibel could be your friend.

 

[ManitouDan_anon]

Lol , don’t boo them .... as Cal calls them Every profane name in the book . I know he’s the coach and I don’t mind tough love , but this thought that booing a boneheaded play ... after the same guy has made about a 100 boneheaded plays is going to hurt his feelings is just soft. And I hate soft .

 

[revcort]

Yeah, I agree.

I think the frustration stems from knowing this kid is doing things that are reminiscent of AAU ball and quite honestly, he has cost us some games, but he's still going to leave for the draft, because he has… "potential".

I still don't agree with booing.

But also, Sarr did the same thing in crunch time. Tie game with 20+ seconds on the shot clock, he took one step inside the 3pt line and fired a quick shot that missed. But you can't boo the guy that crushed it all game long.

Yes, that shot by Sarr was not a good one. The one foot on the 3pt line shot is pointless. If you're shooting a 2 at least shoot it from around the foul line. If you're taking that shot, move back a step and make it a 3. Time and situation should have told him that was a bad shot to take. He should know better, too. It's not like the shot clock was about to expire. We had time to get a better shot right there.

But you're right. He carried the team for much of the game. It's hard to fault the guy for one bad shot.

 

[Stonewall12]

So I can come boo your kid right? It’s crappy behavior.
These aren’t pros out there earning a paycheck. They are young adults that are trying to improve and play a game.
No defending this behavior.

If my kid is playing division one boo all you want

 

[acatnamedmyra]

Amateurs??? Who you all kidding?

 

[kyjeff1]

Yes, that shot by Sarr was not a good one. The one foot on the 3pt line shot is pointless. If you're shooting a 2 at least shoot it from around the foul line. If you're taking that shot, move back a step and make it a 3. Time and situation should have told him that was a bad shot to take. He should know better, too. It's not like the shot clock was about to expire. We had time to get a better shot right there.

But you're right. He carried the team for much of the game. It's hard to fault the guy for one bad shot.

Another thing I'm surprised at with Sarr, is he just fouls so much. He's played at this level for too long to make those mistakes. He picked up his 5th foul because his hands were down and into the body of Pippen. His hands should always be up.
However, I bet he was able to get away with that in the ACC, SEC refs call everything.

 

[Mad Max]

When you take selfish, Ill-advised shots, you deserve to get boo’d. It’s one thing if you are just struggling, no one should boo a struggling UK player who is competing and giving it their all. However, when you completely high-jack the team’s offense, that’s a completely different story.

I boo this post. LOL

I don’t even boo the other team...respect is a valuable behavior set..:in all cases.

except refs...I do boo them, but they are paid professionals

 

[KYCAT78]

A "Overpaid" chant for Cal would be more appropriate.

 

[calismyhero]

I sure hope most of this group stays.I do worry some will transfer out.

They will leave just like they always have. It’s the system.

 

[calismyhero]

I would never boo one of our players. Honestly I blame Cal for giving him undeserved minutes. We may have been able to pull out a close game or two if not for Cal’s stubbornness. 3-6 could have been 5-4, 6-3. I never heard any booing on TV and whoever was doing it should be fairly easy to recognize. This is a year like no other, people get frustrated a lot easier. The kid needs to be in the gym shooting 1000 shots a day. He’s nowhere near ready to play pro ball. 2-3 years lifting and shooting, he could be but not the 10th pick in the draft. It’s about the team. As soon as we get back to that, the better off we will be.