Boom baby. Tigers back and he's takin Augusta in 2 weeks*
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who said he wouldnt come back.
Fact of the matter is there are an assload of people that were hoping this day never came. I say, the second round is nearly as exciting as the first.
He'll dominate again. But this time, the talent will overrule the arrogance.
Fact of the matter is there are an assload of people that were hoping this day never came. I say, the second round is nearly as exciting as the first.
He'll dominate again. But this time, the talent will overrule the arrogance.
How does he not get called for that ********?
Has anyone else EVER claimed to be bothered during a shot like him? Isn't he supposed to have unbelievable focus? If he's so focuses, he would never hear **** happening behind him
Has anyone else EVER claimed to be bothered during a shot like him? Isn't he supposed to have unbelievable focus? If he's so focuses, he would never hear **** happening behind him
Every golfer on the tour would stop their swing and start over if someone behind them yelled right when they were about to swing. In a post-round interview he said he didn't know at the time why the woman yelled, but it made sense when he found that somebody had fainted and fallen over right next to her. It was simply bad timing because when she did it he was already in his downswing.
As for this:
Do you ever hear how ridiculous of a complaint that is? That's like saying, "If Drew Brees is such a good quarterback, he should never throw an interception. He should know where to throw it every time."
As for this:
Do you ever hear how ridiculous of a complaint that is? That's like saying, "If Drew Brees is such a good quarterback, he should never throw an interception. He should know where to throw it every time."
I was telling my wife the other day how overrated crowd noise is. A hitter that is locked in at the plate never hears the crowd. And please show me one other golfer who overreacts when that happens like tiger does. It must happen to other golfers so I just find it hard to believe that no other golfers throw shitfits like tiger does.
you are severely discounting the drastic difference between the crowd following tiger and the crowds following everyone else.
I was at The Open in 2001. Tiger shot 84 on Saturday. It was one of his worst major rounds. It was in the mid 40s, windy, and driving rain. Scotland sucks *** when it comes to weather variability. I was at 18 most of the afternoon dealing with the weather and damn near silence because the crowd was so diminished. The next thing I know, there are several thousand people at the tee box and hundreds yelling get in the hole as Tiger tee's off on a 17ing par four.
He may ***** about it more but I am nearly certain he deals with it way more than anyone else.
I was at The Open in 2001. Tiger shot 84 on Saturday. It was one of his worst major rounds. It was in the mid 40s, windy, and driving rain. Scotland sucks *** when it comes to weather variability. I was at 18 most of the afternoon dealing with the weather and damn near silence because the crowd was so diminished. The next thing I know, there are several thousand people at the tee box and hundreds yelling get in the hole as Tiger tee's off on a 17ing par four.
He may ***** about it more but I am nearly certain he deals with it way more than anyone else.
I understand it's hard to concentrate on swinging a golf club, but look at guys taking big shots in basketball games, or QB's managing offenses with 100K people screaming, ora closerpitching to end the game with 50K fans screaming.If you focus like the rest of theseplayers do,the noise just goes away. All of the good atheltes tell you they don't hearanything. They may be exaggerating to some extent, but I guarantee the noise doesn't affect themdoing any of the things I previously mentioned. </p>
Golf is completely different. Hell a basketball , football, and baseball player would probably be more prone to make a mistake with no crowd noise. Ever heard of "feeding off the crowd"?
People talking, someone messing around in the cart making noise, it just doesn't bother me. Just about everything you do in a day has noise involved, and I don't see why it has to affect your golf swing.
Now I'm no scratch golfer.I'm a little better than a bogey golfer, butfor me hitting fairways or making putts has nothing to do with noise. It's more about my ability to lock in to what I'm doing regardless of what's going on. I understand golf requires a lot of concentration, but for me it'sall repetition and doing what you've done over and over again from muscle memory. To me noise has nothing to dowith that.
Now I'm no scratch golfer.I'm a little better than a bogey golfer, butfor me hitting fairways or making putts has nothing to do with noise. It's more about my ability to lock in to what I'm doing regardless of what's going on. I understand golf requires a lot of concentration, but for me it'sall repetition and doing what you've done over and over again from muscle memory. To me noise has nothing to dowith that.
To me, ambient noise in a normal environment on a normal course... for instance cheering at another green, birds, other players hitting, even talking, carts going by, etc... has zero effect on my game. Reason being I feel no pressure to perform with ambient, normal noise going on... I can key it out. People don't give a **** enough to pay money to come see me play bogey golf on a Friday afternoon.<div>
</div><div>Professional golfers, on the other hand, have to deal with crowds... take the Masters. Hundreds of thousands of people pay hundreds, thousands of dollars to come see players play golf... and the numbers of people completely consume tee boxes, greens, and fairways. On top of that, sponsors and coaches are there... Those people are there to see me play golf (if I were a professional golfer... which I am far from...). Noise suddenly becomes an entirely different element... because it's coming from people coming to see us play our best in an environment where we are expected to perform our best. </div><div>
</div><div>So to pull my thoughts together... normal noise on a golf course while I'm hacking a ball down a fairway... does not bother me. Sunday at the Masters and I'm holding a one stroke lead going into Amen Corner... noise can and probably will have a profound effect on the way I focus and play the game. </div>
</div><div>Professional golfers, on the other hand, have to deal with crowds... take the Masters. Hundreds of thousands of people pay hundreds, thousands of dollars to come see players play golf... and the numbers of people completely consume tee boxes, greens, and fairways. On top of that, sponsors and coaches are there... Those people are there to see me play golf (if I were a professional golfer... which I am far from...). Noise suddenly becomes an entirely different element... because it's coming from people coming to see us play our best in an environment where we are expected to perform our best. </div><div>
</div><div>So to pull my thoughts together... normal noise on a golf course while I'm hacking a ball down a fairway... does not bother me. Sunday at the Masters and I'm holding a one stroke lead going into Amen Corner... noise can and probably will have a profound effect on the way I focus and play the game. </div>
Watching the shot, Eldrick's swing doesn't look to dramatically changed or hitch with the scream. Eldrick's just hit the ball fat and can't admit he screwed up. He is just a little ***** throwing his cluBs and blaming others for his mistakes.
Then we'd see just who responds to cheering, taunting, etc. I remember when it was considered impolite to yell during Free Throws.
Every stroke takes way more concentration when that type of pressure is consuming you. I realize they are trained to deal with it but it still has to be a lot harder than playing a little better than bogey golf on a Saturday when the only people watching you swing are the 3 people in your group.
The guy heals better than Miracle Max.
Moultrieknee and Tigerchilles, nothing is too difficult to cure in a short time.</p>
Moultrieknee and Tigerchilles, nothing is too difficult to cure in a short time.</p>
noise- consistent noise on the tee shot is not as bad. it is a sudden noise inthe downswing that causes problems. I don't give a rip how "locked in" you are. It will bother almost everyone in the world that is a lower handicap or a pro. Sustained noise is doable. Therefore, I think the woman screaming in downswingdrasticallyhelped cause that tee shot left.
one win does not make him back.....on a track he knows better than any other one on tour. He might contend or win at the masters because he knows every bump out at augusta. I am interested to see what happens when someone pushes him that is not afraid of him. When he can't just shoot even par on the final day to win.
I got news, young guys aren't real scared of him anymore. Rory damn sure isn't...and mcelroy can hit every shot in the book with him and still carry him by 20 yards off the tee. He played solid safe golf yesterday...what he is best at.
a week after he withdrew because of the achilles.....he was a couple 3 over when he withdrew. just like last year at the players when he wasn't playing well.dare I say,faking the injury????? all that said it was a good step for him and he played really solid safe golf with the irons and aimed to fat parts of every green. settling for 40 footers, but that is what it takes to win.....no dropped shots. The putter is still not what it once was for him. Maybe he will get that back.
I sort of have a feeling McElroy is going to go nuts again except this time...finish it. He hits that towering high ball (fadepreferred)which you have to have at Augusta and he can score better than anyone else out there if his putter is going. Sort of like congressional except on a shorter track that is easier to score on. He wants to exercise some augusta demons from last year in a big way. If he can do it at a us open venue...he damn sure can do it at augusta.
one win does not make him back.....on a track he knows better than any other one on tour. He might contend or win at the masters because he knows every bump out at augusta. I am interested to see what happens when someone pushes him that is not afraid of him. When he can't just shoot even par on the final day to win.
I got news, young guys aren't real scared of him anymore. Rory damn sure isn't...and mcelroy can hit every shot in the book with him and still carry him by 20 yards off the tee. He played solid safe golf yesterday...what he is best at.
a week after he withdrew because of the achilles.....he was a couple 3 over when he withdrew. just like last year at the players when he wasn't playing well.dare I say,faking the injury????? all that said it was a good step for him and he played really solid safe golf with the irons and aimed to fat parts of every green. settling for 40 footers, but that is what it takes to win.....no dropped shots. The putter is still not what it once was for him. Maybe he will get that back.
I sort of have a feeling McElroy is going to go nuts again except this time...finish it. He hits that towering high ball (fadepreferred)which you have to have at Augusta and he can score better than anyone else out there if his putter is going. Sort of like congressional except on a shorter track that is easier to score on. He wants to exercise some augusta demons from last year in a big way. If he can do it at a us open venue...he damn sure can do it at augusta.
I'm going to give you a little advice. There's a force in the universe that makes things happen. And all you have to do is get in touch with it, stop thinking, let things happen, and be the ball.
You're not being the ball, Danny.
It's kind of hard to concentrate with you talking.
You're not being the ball, Danny.
It's kind of hard to concentrate with you talking.
This is the one thing people keep trying to drill in to to fans heads about Tiger and "these young guys". If you think Rory's ******* isn't going to squelch up on Sunday at Augusta playing with Tiger, then you haven't heard Rory talk about Tiger. All these "kids" grew up idolizing the guy. None of them have played WITH Tiger at a major when Tiger had his mojo back(bc he hasn't had it back until yesterday). I'm not saying they are as intimidated as they used to be with old Tiger, but there will be an intimidation factor. It's impossible for there not to be. And we've seen that Rory will choke under pressure in big events. Just imagine that pressure ramped up times 100 if he's in the final pairing with Tiger. Gonna be a fun Masters.
yeah, but who says tiger has his mojo back? It's still one event. he's very comfortable at bay hill. His final round score tied for 2nd best of the day which is impressive. Tigerusually holds leads well if he has it going into the final day.....nothing new there...his putter is still balky.
So, being the leader wire to wire at the US Open is not equal pressure? I am not saying the sunday pressure of Tiger won't affect Rory, but after failing miserably at the masters....it takes a lot of balls to come back and win the US Open a few months later. Losing that masters would scar most guys for life (ala greg norman). So he has some balls too.
I dunno, I acknowledge your point. I just see a little something different in mcelroy than others.
So, being the leader wire to wire at the US Open is not equal pressure? I am not saying the sunday pressure of Tiger won't affect Rory, but after failing miserably at the masters....it takes a lot of balls to come back and win the US Open a few months later. Losing that masters would scar most guys for life (ala greg norman). So he has some balls too.
I dunno, I acknowledge your point. I just see a little something different in mcelroy than others.
He was being interviewed on television. The interviewer asked him if there was a lot of pressure when he was putting for a million dollar win at a tournament. He said "Not really. Nothing at all like the pressure when you are putting to win a hundred dollar bet and you only have two dollars in your pocket." I spewed beer.
Try playing a 4-man at Greenville Golf and Country Club with China Grove or Reelin' in the Years blaring from every golf cart out there!! Or the Anguilla 3-man with guys throwing rib bones at you on #5 green where they have been drinking and smoking on the cooker all night! Sissies.
I used to be bothered by noises and crowds but playing at State on Tuesday mornings when all of the landscaping crew is out gets you over that quick. That being said there is a huge difference between ambient noise and total distraction. Years ago I used to play with a guy that played baseball for State. He said that same line about how golfers getting distracted was silly. I was killing him going into the last couple of holes so I told him let me yell something during your swing and see how well you do. I didn't even yell but the pure anticipation of me yelling caused him to chunk his drive every time. As far as Tiger being the only one that claims distraction, a leaf was blowing BEHIND McDowell yesterday and he acted like that threw him off.
But the thing about the US Open is he played his absolute best on Saturday... which you have to do. He had a far enough lead going into Sunday, he was basically on cruise control. The thing about Augusta is they design the tournament where if you are even within 7 or 8 of the lead, you have a chance to win it on Sunday. Schwartzel came back from -4 off the lead and shot a -6 on the day and won it. The course at the Open is not designed for players to come back from 7 or 8 strokes on Sunday and win the thing. Day had the best round and shot a -3 to finish a threatening 8 strokes behind Rory to take second at Congressional.
Think back to Augusta... Rory did not have a terrible front 9 on Sunday. Tiger was completely off the leaderboard going into the final round... 8 or 9 back, I believe. Rory turns the corner at 10, looks at the leaderboard, and Tiger is right there... only a few strokes back (I think he got within 1 or 2 of Rory at one point). That's when Rory's game went to ****, when he felt Tiger breathing down his neck when he saw the leaderboard.
Rory was 4 strokes ahead of the next golfer going into Sunday at
Augusta... with Tiger +8. He was 8 strokes ahead of the second place golfer going into Sunday at Congressional...
and Tiger nowhere near the top of the leaderboard...and he only had to shoot -2 on Sunday to win the thing by 8 strokes. If Rory had shot a -2 at Augusta, he would have tied for the win. Completely and totally different kind of pressure between those two tournaments.
The Masters has ALWAYS played differently than any other major... and it's because they design it to have an exciting Sunday finish. The open is designed to test players and give little room for error, especially when they want to play aggressive golf. Rory was completely in his element on Saturday that he didn't have to test the course on Sunday to win. I think he struggles again this year if he feels pressure on Sunday
Think back to Augusta... Rory did not have a terrible front 9 on Sunday. Tiger was completely off the leaderboard going into the final round... 8 or 9 back, I believe. Rory turns the corner at 10, looks at the leaderboard, and Tiger is right there... only a few strokes back (I think he got within 1 or 2 of Rory at one point). That's when Rory's game went to ****, when he felt Tiger breathing down his neck when he saw the leaderboard.
Rory was 4 strokes ahead of the next golfer going into Sunday at
Augusta... with Tiger +8. He was 8 strokes ahead of the second place golfer going into Sunday at Congressional...
and Tiger nowhere near the top of the leaderboard...and he only had to shoot -2 on Sunday to win the thing by 8 strokes. If Rory had shot a -2 at Augusta, he would have tied for the win. Completely and totally different kind of pressure between those two tournaments.
The Masters has ALWAYS played differently than any other major... and it's because they design it to have an exciting Sunday finish. The open is designed to test players and give little room for error, especially when they want to play aggressive golf. Rory was completely in his element on Saturday that he didn't have to test the course on Sunday to win. I think he struggles again this year if he feels pressure on Sunday
I somewhat agree with that. Fairways are a lot harder to hit at a US Open though and the course is a lot longer...and the greens are usually fried. On the back nine at augusta...if your not five under through there the final day then your going backwards. The only really two hard holes are 11, and 13 (if the swirling wind gets you). So yeah you better be rolling. rory hits it a ton (he can reach 12 and 14 easily in two). I just think if rory gets the putter going he can score with tiger no problem.
Last year, I think he got tentative on a few short putts that shook hisconfidenceon the front nine and that bled into his game all day. He putted awful on sunday and lost all his confidence with every club in bag. I think it was less a tiger problem and more a rory problem....alas we shall see in a couple week. going to be awesome.
Last year, I think he got tentative on a few short putts that shook hisconfidenceon the front nine and that bled into his game all day. He putted awful on sunday and lost all his confidence with every club in bag. I think it was less a tiger problem and more a rory problem....alas we shall see in a couple week. going to be awesome.
I sure hope he can reach 12 and 14 in two consideringone is a Par3 and the next is aPar 4. That'd be pretty embarassing if he couldn't.boatsnhoes said:
I think you're referring to 13 and 15 in which anybody who can hit the tee ball over 280 can reach those in 2. Most of the guys are hitting 3 wood - 5 iron into 13.
But I agree, I think Rory and Tiger have to be the favorites and I'd honestly be shocked if one of those 2 didn't win.If you drive it well atAugusta, you can eat it up out there.