Bost's prospects in Europe.
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From everything ive read thru the last probably 5 years, making $75K+ is hardly difficult. Ive read more than plenty of times about players that were known but hardly great college players were paid int he 6 figures.
Yes Europe, Asia, and Australia dont pay all that well unless you are at the top level(Europe only, really). But at the same time, even ULEB cup/Eurocup level pays well. It just simply does.
Nothing near the NBA, but that **** skews the hell out of reality.
Reality says almost none of the college players that we all cheer for will make the NBA and that most will play in domestic minor leagues or overseas. Reality says that such a result shouldnt be lauged at, but fans are immature and shortsighted, so they laugh and make dumb comments like 'enjoy Iceland' or 'have fun playing next to some goats'.
He is trying to get paid for his talents. How the hell is that any different than you or i? Oh the horror of trying to make money at what he is great at.
Even if he makes $50K this season...he is 20yo. Add in the fact that contracts are often times different there concerning taxes, and teams typically provide residence and it isnt like he is digging ditches for a living.
He could stay stateside and just get into the DLeague(they take some terrible players, comparitively) for like $20K plus housing and food. He would get NBA level training, learn the NBA game, play an NBA length schedule, etc etc. Get 2 years of that, learn and grow, and you dont think he would be better off than if he were to stay thru his senior year at MSU?
Man, say in 3 years he is making $120K overseas. He will be 23, getting to see the world, getting paid for PLAYING A GAME that he loves, and bringing in damn good money for a 23yo. ****, that is damn good money for a 33yo.
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Yes Europe, Asia, and Australia dont pay all that well unless you are at the top level(Europe only, really). But at the same time, even ULEB cup/Eurocup level pays well. It just simply does.
Nothing near the NBA, but that **** skews the hell out of reality.
Reality says almost none of the college players that we all cheer for will make the NBA and that most will play in domestic minor leagues or overseas. Reality says that such a result shouldnt be lauged at, but fans are immature and shortsighted, so they laugh and make dumb comments like 'enjoy Iceland' or 'have fun playing next to some goats'.
He is trying to get paid for his talents. How the hell is that any different than you or i? Oh the horror of trying to make money at what he is great at.
Even if he makes $50K this season...he is 20yo. Add in the fact that contracts are often times different there concerning taxes, and teams typically provide residence and it isnt like he is digging ditches for a living.
He could stay stateside and just get into the DLeague(they take some terrible players, comparitively) for like $20K plus housing and food. He would get NBA level training, learn the NBA game, play an NBA length schedule, etc etc. Get 2 years of that, learn and grow, and you dont think he would be better off than if he were to stay thru his senior year at MSU?
Man, say in 3 years he is making $120K overseas. He will be 23, getting to see the world, getting paid for PLAYING A GAME that he loves, and bringing in damn good money for a 23yo. ****, that is damn good money for a 33yo.
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then D. Bost probably made the best decision for him. Lets be honest, how many post college athletes make more than $100k in a given year if they aren't professionals? Not many.
If we are going to blame someone, we should be blaming Rick Stansbury for not doing whatever he could to keep Bost on campus and happy. Of course I'll get blasted for that, but something is terribly wrong with the number of players trying to jump ship under Rick's watch.
If we are going to blame someone, we should be blaming Rick Stansbury for not doing whatever he could to keep Bost on campus and happy. Of course I'll get blasted for that, but something is terribly wrong with the number of players trying to jump ship under Rick's watch.
But he could be in 5 years. Personally I would prefer to have the 4-year degree since you neverknow what the future holds. He could be injured & out of basketball ina few years.Then what good are afew years of a$100k salary (most of which he'll probably blow if he's like the majority of young athletes).mstateglfr said:
Ok, so say he is out in5 years. Alright then. Whats your actual point?I hear colleges will still accept you, even if youare permanantly injured from playing sports.kired said:
And seriously, how many elitebasketball players are out forever due to injury early in theircareer? I can think of maybe 3 in the last decade. Players tear the crap out of theirknees all the time and are back playing the next season.Shaun Livingston basically obliterated any existence of an entire jointand he is back playing.
It is extremely extremely rare for a young athleteto hang up thesneakers over an injury. So rare that such an injury shouldnt be considered. And if he were to go thru such a horrific injury within the next5 years, then why not get paid for as many seasons as possible?!?!
As for the comment on him blowing the money, are you suggesting he wouldnt do just that if he stayedat MSU for 2 more seasons and then left?
<div>You're right - the injury comment was off target for basketball players. But my point is,leavingcollege & jumping into European basketball kind of restricts his future options. He's basically saying he's willing to spend the next 10-15 years bouncing all over Europe playing basketball. And then what? He'd probably blow the money regardless of whether he stayed at State - most 20 / 21 year olds would. The point is, he has anopportunityto get a free education. We all know he's not likely to go back to college & finish his degree if he wouldn't even finish this semester (according to the rumors).</div><div>
</div><div>I have no problem with him leaving & wanting to get paid now. He may make a killing in the next 5-10 years... just hope he's wise enough to plan ahead & realize playing basketball won't provide a paycheck for the next 40 years.</div>
</div><div>I have no problem with him leaving & wanting to get paid now. He may make a killing in the next 5-10 years... just hope he's wise enough to plan ahead & realize playing basketball won't provide a paycheck for the next 40 years.</div>
the dude could come back and play with another Top 10 potential NBA draft pick and perhaps elevate his status, himself, into a late 1st or 2nd round pick and actually make the make-believe money you're talking about. Instead, he decided to say 17 school and 17 that opportunity where perhaps he could make MUCH more than he will be making in Serbia had he just waited a year or two. Looking at this long-term (which these dumbasses can't ever figure out how to do..), he could very well have life-changing money in a year or two...but instead he has chosen to make the immediate money that will get him by for as long as he can still play ball. After that, he's got no degree to fall back on and no savings either. What a brilliant decision he's made for himself.
You make a lot of assumptions in your post. People make nice money playing ball overseas. I know a kid who grew up down the street who has been doing it for about 10 years now - and he has saved plenty. I don't know how Bost's decision will play out. But he has a chance to get paid pretty good money for what he does best. Anybody that faults him for that is being nothing more than a homer.BriantheDawg said:
and he very well could have a productive career in Europe, but I just don't understand why if you're as good as you think you are and have a chance to really make a name for yourself with 1 or possibly 2 more years of college ball, why not go for the big money...the life-changing, generational-type money? Europe will still be there 1 or 2 years from now. If what I've heard is true and he basically said screw school last semester, not leaving yourself the option to come back is just plain dumb. Maybe he'll make some decent money over there, but I do believe (assume) he had the potential to actually be drafted next year or the next.
a large percentage of young black players dont want the free education. They dont give a ****. They want to be a pro basketball player. They dont care about college.
Most white kids grow up thinking about what college they want to play for when they get older.
Most black kids grow up thinking about being in the NBA and on SportsCenter.
Alot of these kids think 10K is a shitload of money, so playing ball for 100K is a no-brainer.
Most white kids grow up thinking about what college they want to play for when they get older.
Most black kids grow up thinking about being in the NBA and on SportsCenter.
Alot of these kids think 10K is a shitload of money, so playing ball for 100K is a no-brainer.
If as a sophmore i was given the following choices and forced to decide, im honestly not sure which i would pick.
Option A- continue to do what i love for free for a couple more years while making no money, getting an education that clearly isnt my top priority, and developing my game in a limited capacity due to NCAA regulations but developing it none the less. At the end, i will have about a 15% chance of being drafted and getting into the NBA for more than 2 years. I will have a 95% chance to get paid overseas somewhere at a top level team or at least a Eurocup team.
Option B- go pro now, have about a 85% chance to make $75-125K for the first couple yearsand possibly more after that while having a 100% chance of making money somewhere...anywhere come next season. During these years, i will have unlimited time to practice and develop, will play against much better competition than in college, and will get to see the world and learn from experienced players who come from multiple cultures. At the end of my first couple years, there will be a 50% chance of getting paid more, a 35% chance of coming home to the DLeague to take a pay cut and try to make the NBA with my new experience, and a 15% chance of continuing along the path i am already on.
Seriously, i dont know which i would pick, especially at that age.
Option A- continue to do what i love for free for a couple more years while making no money, getting an education that clearly isnt my top priority, and developing my game in a limited capacity due to NCAA regulations but developing it none the less. At the end, i will have about a 15% chance of being drafted and getting into the NBA for more than 2 years. I will have a 95% chance to get paid overseas somewhere at a top level team or at least a Eurocup team.
Option B- go pro now, have about a 85% chance to make $75-125K for the first couple yearsand possibly more after that while having a 100% chance of making money somewhere...anywhere come next season. During these years, i will have unlimited time to practice and develop, will play against much better competition than in college, and will get to see the world and learn from experienced players who come from multiple cultures. At the end of my first couple years, there will be a 50% chance of getting paid more, a 35% chance of coming home to the DLeague to take a pay cut and try to make the NBA with my new experience, and a 15% chance of continuing along the path i am already on.
Seriously, i dont know which i would pick, especially at that age.