I would trade any of our wins this year for a loss like Ole Miss had against Texas A&M. I'm done until we fire Mullen or start hanging with the good teams. We did not have to win today for me to be happy. We just needed to play them close. We, of course, did not. We never do. We suck. It's year five and this is what Mullen has built. A cluster17 of mediocrity. I don't give a flying 17 how bad we've been in the past. It doesn't 17ing matter. Anyone can play hard. Our team doesn't. Can this 17ing clown.
Bottom line..
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For what it's worth, I thought y'all's young players played very well, and if you don't turn it over five times, you probably win the game.
This is my biggest problem. I honestly can't remember the last time I felt like we played as hard as we could play for an entire game. We just don't really seem to care from start to finish. I get tired of watching other teams every Saturday leave it all out on the field and I feel that we are just happy to get back on the bus. And this is why I'm done with Dan.
We average 429 ypg in SEC games alone. We average 447 ypg in all games. I wouldn't say our offense is poorly coached. We just struggle with finishing drives, especially in the second half. Some of that is Dan, but a lot of it is just players not making plays.
I can only shake my head at comments like this and rub my temples. Its too easy for an emotional fan to blame vague and subjective things like effort. I actually thought the team played with a lot of effort yesterday. The defense may have played its best overall game of the year forcing lots of 3 and outs, getting pressure on the QB, and the secondary played noticeably better. I liked that we played aggressively on defense, and that we had an offensive game plan that worked. And we made a change in the special teams that worked. We just made too many mistakes, i.e turnovers. I'm disappointed because we threw away an otherwise good effort; you cannot lose the turnover battle and expect to win. But I was glad to see Dak able to play through it, although it was probably only because Tyler was not ready to come in.
I've been thinking about this all season and I have to agree our coaching is very sub par. I know we are playing a lot of young guys but we are not seeing the improvement I would expect to see through a season. You take a look at someone like Auburn and you can see improvement every game. Yeah, they have a deeper talent pool, but Cheeznuts did nothing with the talent as opposed to Gus who is getting more and more each week from his guys.
I think my biggest disappointment is in our offense. I really expected it to be more than we have seen especially with a "Mullen" style QB in Dak running things. Outside of his turnovers yesterday, he really has done pretty well. But... the rest of our offensive scheme is horrible. None of our backs have shown that they can be the guy that strikes fear in opposing defenses. Our tackles have really struggled. Lewis is the only guy that has shown they are something special catching the ball, but he is not the caliber of player that stretches the defense.
For all intents and purposes we were sold the story that Dan's teams would be offensive juggernauts and they have turned out to be very unimaginative and easy to adjust to. Our play calling has been predictable and narrow minded. That may be due to Dak not having a deep play book, but if that is the case then they should be firing off with precision with a limited amount of plays to practice with. Instead we see a plethora of missed assignments and alignment or motion penalties.
I would give our defense somewhat of a pass because of the youth if we actually ran something on the D line that made us harder to block. Most plays we send our best guys straight into double teams instead of doing any stunts. And just in case in of our future opponents didn't know, the deep out curl and post patterns are open all day long. Have fun Johnny Football.
Lastly we look lost on the field waaay too often to be this deep in the season. I would expect something like the end of the first half against SC to happen early in the season, but not this deep into playing on the field. We never look sharp on offense... ever.
Dan and the staff better show something imaginative down the stretch on offense and I don't mean trick plays that are good for one time only in the game. We are going to have to score some serious points if we are going to get another win the rest of our season because our secondary is going to give up some major points.
I think my biggest disappointment is in our offense. I really expected it to be more than we have seen especially with a "Mullen" style QB in Dak running things. Outside of his turnovers yesterday, he really has done pretty well. But... the rest of our offensive scheme is horrible. None of our backs have shown that they can be the guy that strikes fear in opposing defenses. Our tackles have really struggled. Lewis is the only guy that has shown they are something special catching the ball, but he is not the caliber of player that stretches the defense.
For all intents and purposes we were sold the story that Dan's teams would be offensive juggernauts and they have turned out to be very unimaginative and easy to adjust to. Our play calling has been predictable and narrow minded. That may be due to Dak not having a deep play book, but if that is the case then they should be firing off with precision with a limited amount of plays to practice with. Instead we see a plethora of missed assignments and alignment or motion penalties.
I would give our defense somewhat of a pass because of the youth if we actually ran something on the D line that made us harder to block. Most plays we send our best guys straight into double teams instead of doing any stunts. And just in case in of our future opponents didn't know, the deep out curl and post patterns are open all day long. Have fun Johnny Football.
Lastly we look lost on the field waaay too often to be this deep in the season. I would expect something like the end of the first half against SC to happen early in the season, but not this deep into playing on the field. We never look sharp on offense... ever.
Dan and the staff better show something imaginative down the stretch on offense and I don't mean trick plays that are good for one time only in the game. We are going to have to score some serious points if we are going to get another win the rest of our season because our secondary is going to give up some major points.
Inexperience with Dak and some derps in catching the ball have cost us in what is probably one of our best offensive teams ever. We have moved the ball against good teams much better than last year. People forget how many years of awful offense we've had, and take what we've done since Mullen came for granted.
It can be really big for recruits though. They can look at a 3 point loss and think that they could be the difference. It was the A&M game last year (30-27 loss) that really starting propelling Ole Miss' recruiting. That's basically when Robert committed.
Exactly.
If you are a recruit and you have it narrowed down to MSU, Auburn, and Ole miss...and ole miss is losing a 3 point shootout versus A&M on ESPN....Auburn is pounding some nobody by 55 on ESPNU....and MSU is squeaking by Bowling green by 1 thanks to BG dropping a wide open pass, in one of the ugliest games of the college football season.....are you telling me that doesn't catch your attention? Would you want to play for the team taking top 10 teams to the wire every week, or the team that has to hang on for dear life to beat teams like Bg and UK at home??
And we've had several over the years. The problem is that you will never view your own loss as objectively as you view another team's.
That's just a cop out for the fire Mullen crew. Yea he recruited them, but you can't blame every mistake that a player makes on the coach. You blaming a dropped pass on Mullen because he recruited the player that dropped the pass is the most ridiculous argument there is, and its just pushing an agenda.
And would you not say that some of the plays not being made is due to inexperience and youth as Philly said? We are about to shatter our all time yards per game average with a QB and receiving corp that will all be back next year. Yet people are complaining about our offensive coaching. It is frustrating that our 2nd half scoring is much less than our first half. I get that. But I have watched many drives where we have moved the ball in the second half and then one miscue kills the drive. A miscue in execution rather than in play calling. As I have said, I am not acquitting Dan of any wrongdoing here because obviously he shoulders the majority of the load, but from what I have seen from us this year we have a legitimate shot to be dang good next year. And that is a credit to what Dan has built. The schedule helps, as well, but I fully expect us to compete with A&M, Bama, and LSU next year (I'm not calling them wins). If that doesn't happen, Dan needs to go.
And would you not say that some of the plays not being made is due to inexperience and youth as Philly said? We are about to shatter our all time yards per game average with a QB and receiving corp that will all be back next year. Yet people are complaining about our offensive coaching. It is frustrating that our 2nd half scoring is much less than our first half. I get that. But I have watched many drives where we have moved the ball in the second half and then one miscue kills the drive. A miscue in execution rather than in play calling. As I have said, I am not acquitting Dan of any wrongdoing here because obviously he shoulders the majority of the load, but from what I have seen from us this year we have a legitimate shot to be dang good next year. And that is a credit to what Dan has built. The schedule helps, as well, but I fully expect us to compete with A&M, Bama, and LSU next year (I'm not calling them wins). If that doesn't happen, Dan needs to go.
Auburn was not a better team than TAMU when State played them, and they weren't a better team than TAMU when OM played them. Both OM and MSU let an average Auburn team off the hook, allowing their players to buy in to the system, and the offense to gel. They lose either of those games, and they lose to TAMU.
There is nothing more infuriating to me that Auburn's success because it is a direct result of winning two games that they should not have won. They should be 5-4 right now with losses to OM, MSU, TAMU, and LSU.
There is nothing more infuriating to me that Auburn's success because it is a direct result of winning two games that they should not have won. They should be 5-4 right now with losses to OM, MSU, TAMU, and LSU.
I've said all season that Auburn is the team that everyone should judge their play by. Auburn is (at least) a fg better than both State and TSUN on a neutral field. It was a surprise that they beat TAMU. But you're way undervaluing their game management.
I am not sure that our OOC schedule doesn't hurt our recruiting. Big time recruits don't dream of beating Alcorn St and Jackson St, and South Alabama, etc. and I doubt they are impressed by those wins. They probably don't even want to play in those games. Next year we have 4 cupcakes, Ky and Vandy and everyone knows we just need to win those to go bowling.
I am afraid the recruits, and a lot of the media and such people think that is setting the bar pretty low. It plays right into other teams talking about Winning Championships.
To get respect we need to schedule better OOC opponents and beat them. There are a lot of teams between Ok. ST and Alcorn ST. that we could play, and we need to schedule some. Right now, beating those teams and just trying to go 2 and 6 in the conference is not getting us much respect.
I am afraid the recruits, and a lot of the media and such people think that is setting the bar pretty low. It plays right into other teams talking about Winning Championships.
To get respect we need to schedule better OOC opponents and beat them. There are a lot of teams between Ok. ST and Alcorn ST. that we could play, and we need to schedule some. Right now, beating those teams and just trying to go 2 and 6 in the conference is not getting us much respect.