Boy, some writers just can't help but take shots at MSU...
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therefore, he gets a free pass into media darling/football demi-god.
he may be good, but man, Washington was A-W-F-U-L last year...
he may be good, but man, Washington was A-W-F-U-L last year...
...considering Sarkisian's California connections and such, it's a good place for him. I think that Washington & MSU made the two best coaching hires of the year.
If not Sarkisian, who would you say was the top hire made this year? There really wasn't a single headliner type hire made this year. Sarkisian wasn't a great hire, but you could make an argument that it was the best one this year because none of the others really stick out.
the "best new hire".
i'm looking at it in a biggest improvement next year, light. i think Marrone will pan out well in Syracuse. the top of the big east is strong, but it shouldnt be to hard for them to work their way out of the cellar. i think sarkisian has a longer road. he'll probably pan out, but another dismal season is probably on the horizon in seattle...
i'm looking at it in a biggest improvement next year, light. i think Marrone will pan out well in Syracuse. the top of the big east is strong, but it shouldnt be to hard for them to work their way out of the cellar. i think sarkisian has a longer road. he'll probably pan out, but another dismal season is probably on the horizon in seattle...
I see your Croom comment but seriously. That is progress. The article is saying we made a better hire than Clemson and UT. You would think either of those programs could have stole a success college head coach from someone. Usually we are the one hiring a position coach or someone else's failure.
i mean, they really cant get much worse. they havent been relavent since the McNabb days. i doubt they'll turn it around quickly, but they may be good enough to earn a couple of tv spots in a couple of years...
i really like the Mullen hire. and i approve where the columnist put it. top 3. could be one or two, but i agree with it being a top 3 hire.
edited to answer you question:
i wouldnt have been happy if we got another bammer legacy without any real experience handling the responsibility for an entire team. i wasnt real happy with the croom deal, but i'm not upset the "era" is over. looking forward to next year for the first time in a while!
i really like the Mullen hire. and i approve where the columnist put it. top 3. could be one or two, but i agree with it being a top 3 hire.
edited to answer you question:
i wouldnt have been happy if we got another bammer legacy without any real experience handling the responsibility for an entire team. i wasnt real happy with the croom deal, but i'm not upset the "era" is over. looking forward to next year for the first time in a while!
and it could be argued that it was as good of a hire as anyone, but I don't see why someone would have a problem with the idea that Sarkisian is listed as No. 1 on the list. To me, you could probably take the top 5 hires from this year, throw them in a hat and draw one out, and you'd have as good of a chance as anyone at being right.
No one made a sure thing hire this year, and quite a few made some real head scratching hires (firing Tommy Bowden for Sweeney, firing Tuberville for Chizik).
No one made a sure thing hire this year, and quite a few made some real head scratching hires (firing Tommy Bowden for Sweeney, firing Tuberville for Chizik).
USC hasn't exactly been lighting it up lately on offense despite having top talent. Now he has less talent to work with. Granted the Pac-10 isn't that tough, but Sarkisian still hasn't been all that impressive. The only reason he was considered a hot commodity is because he coached at USC.
Wouldn't you have to say that Sarkisian is Kiffin light since he didn't have the hc experience to go w/ the usc oc experience? UW should have gone after Petersen.
USC should be running an offense very similar to Alabama.. the power running game should be their primary attack, and work some play action and intermediate/deep passes off the running game. Sarkisian gets pass-happy and tries to be too cute instead of just running over teams like they should. Many SC fans are happy that he's leaving (same for Kiffin when he left).
They put it on autopilot with Leinart and Bush in 2005 but then have really dropped off since then. It baffles me that both Sarkisian and Kiffin have been such hot commodities.</p>
They're top 15 in total offense and scoring offense but they make some curious play-calls that kill drives. If they line up in the I-formation and just run the ball straight at people, they would never be stopped. For some reason, Sarkisian does stupid **** like spread the field and throw the ball on 3rd and 2. He makes stuff a lot more difficult than it has to be, considering the talent they recruit.
He really hasn't been the OC anywhere but Florida, and during his time there he's had the perfect QB for that Urban Meyer system. It's hard to say whether he'd have been able to continue that type of success with a drop off at QB.
Point being, there are only 2 coaches on that list of 10 that were head coaches at the beginning of the 2008 season (Kiffin and Hoke). Kiffin had one and a half unsuccessful seasons at Oakland, and Hoke had one player, Nate Davis, that has accounted for a lot of the attention he's received.
That's why I say that you really can't say that any of the top coaching hires made this year are better than the other, because none of them are sure things.
Point being, there are only 2 coaches on that list of 10 that were head coaches at the beginning of the 2008 season (Kiffin and Hoke). Kiffin had one and a half unsuccessful seasons at Oakland, and Hoke had one player, Nate Davis, that has accounted for a lot of the attention he's received.
That's why I say that you really can't say that any of the top coaching hires made this year are better than the other, because none of them are sure things.
Like I said, I think the jury is still out on Hoke, but he was one of the handful of small school head coach names that were being thrown around this off-season, and a school like San Diego State managed to land him. They haven't done anything since Marshall Faulk. As far as program status, I'd say that landing Hoke might have been the biggest coup out of all the coaching hires. I had no clue San Diego State had landed him until I looked at the list.
Still, you could throw Mullen, Kiffin, and Sarkisian in a hat, and I think you could make arguments for each of the three.
Still, you could throw Mullen, Kiffin, and Sarkisian in a hat, and I think you could make arguments for each of the three.
I know you like to poormouth all things MSU, come on. I haven't heard one single comment from a Florida fan that is happy that Mullen is leaving. We've had mutliple mentions in this thread alone of USC fans that are happy Sarkisian is leaving. Both had top talent, but Mullen obviously got more out of his.
I'm not saying Mullen is a slam dunk, but I cannot see how anyone can put Sarkisian over him.
I'm not saying Mullen is a slam dunk, but I cannot see how anyone can put Sarkisian over him.
argument for Kiffen? Really, Kiffen, a top hire?
Mullen was a homerun for State. As a Rebel thru and thru, I have no problem saying that.
But really, Kiffen? Are you high?
Mullen was a homerun for State. As a Rebel thru and thru, I have no problem saying that.
But really, Kiffen? Are you high?
His overall record isn't anything to get excited about (even with this year's 12-1 record, he's still only 34-38 at Ball St.). He did have a great season this year, but he backed out of a bowl matchup with Boise St. (serious question about his confidence in his ability there) and got his *** kicked by Buffalo. I think San Diego State is going to realize in about 3-4 years that they made a mistake.
When Mullen went to Florida with Meyer, USC was considered to be bar none the top football program in the country. Since then, Mullen will coach in 2 national title games as a coordinator in 3 years (one with a starting QB who was anything but a perfect fit for his offense), while Sarkisian will never coach in a national title game as a coordinator.
I think UT made a good hire in Kiffin especially since his father will be DC. That being said, I don't know what Kiffin will be like because his advancement path was unusual in that he moved from D-I coordinator to NFL head coach, which is very odd. He may have been an NFL coach, but he hadn't yet proven himself as a head coach, but that wasn't really going to happen what with Al Davis as boss.
I don't think you can call Sarkisian Kiffin light though. Actually, I don't think you can make any comparison between them yet. Part of the reason why I think that is that of Carroll's OCs, Norm Chow is the best coordinator of the bunch, and he's not gotten a head coaching job.
I don't think you can call Sarkisian Kiffin light though. Actually, I don't think you can make any comparison between them yet. Part of the reason why I think that is that of Carroll's OCs, Norm Chow is the best coordinator of the bunch, and he's not gotten a head coaching job.
That's why I said that the jury was still out on Hoke. For me, anytime a coach does something to get his name on the map, you have to look and see whether he had a program changing player in place. In Hoke's case, he had Nate Davis. He won't have Davis at SDSU, so the question is whether or not he really did a good job or whether Davis carried things for him.
It's a little bit like Tommy West at Memphis. Everyone at Memphis thought he had done a great job turning their program into something for the first time ever. He had DeAngelo Williams though, and he's unlikely to have another DeAngelo. Post-DeAngelo, his teams have been mediocre to bad.
For Hoke, I would like to see what he can do without Davis before determining he's a good head coach. However, I still was a little bit shocked to see SDSU had landed him.
It's a little bit like Tommy West at Memphis. Everyone at Memphis thought he had done a great job turning their program into something for the first time ever. He had DeAngelo Williams though, and he's unlikely to have another DeAngelo. Post-DeAngelo, his teams have been mediocre to bad.
For Hoke, I would like to see what he can do without Davis before determining he's a good head coach. However, I still was a little bit shocked to see SDSU had landed him.