Boyd's World has us 40th

[G-Dawg]

How is this credible? Warren Nolan has us around 27 in RPI. Almost everyone has our SOS around 7 or 9th.

http://www.boydsworld.com/baseball/isr/currentisr.html

 

[engie]

It's a far superior formula to RPI is how.

Takes actual homefield advantage into account in baseball rather than drastically over-rewarding teams for playing on the road. Our RPI is propped up by the stadium being closed for the first couple of weeks of the season and playing on the road.

 

[patdog]

Boyd’s rankings are usually pretty reliable. I’m guessing his algorithm punishes bad losses more & rewards good wins less than some of the others. I’m sure in this case, he hopes his rankings are wrong. He’s a big Bulldog fan & a nice guy.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

RPI is a terrible formula for evaluating teams and is particularly bad in baseball.

ISR has much more predictive power in the conference and NCAA tournaments, for example. Let's hope we're an example of a team that outperforms our low-ish ISR over the next few weeks.

 

[josebrown]

It's a far superior formula to RPI is how.

Takes actual homefield advantage into account in baseball rather than drastically over-rewarding teams for playing on the road. Our RPI is propped up by the stadium being closed for the first couple of weeks of the season and playing on the road.

If it took homefield advantage into account, then wouldn't it value less wins at home and more winning road games? And if so, then wouldn't that be the same as what you're saying is flawed with rpi?

By looking at it, with being 8-1 versus their top 5 and sporting a number 5 rated sos, I'd think we'd be rated better than second from last in SEC or number 40 overall. Wether playing all at home or all on road or wherever.

 

[patdog]

By definition, IPR is the ranking that “predicts” the outcome of the most games nationwide for the season. But like all of these computer rankings, it takes the season as a whole. We’re a very different team in April & May than we were in Fubruary & March. If Boyd ran his rankings for Apr 1 through today, I bet we’d be in the top 20.

 

[shotgunDawg]

The thing I've always struggled with in baseball RPI is how do they value who is pitching?

For example: if you play an SEC team on Tuesday and win, does that count the same as beating the same SEC team on Friday night when they are a far superior team?

In basketball, Duke and Kentucky are the same teams on Tuesday as they are on Saturday but in baseball that isn't true.

Are we punished for not facing Singer? If so, why not? Wouldn't you be pissed if you were another team that had to face Singer and lost but MSU got a big RPI bump when they didn't have to face Singer?

Baseball is just an odd sport for RPI that has holes in it.

 

[patdog]

I don’t think any of the computer models consider who’s pitching at all. And you’re right, that’s a huge flaw.

 

[bulldogcountry1]

That is ISR.

Boyd's World has us at 27 in RPI as well.