Bracewell

msstate7

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Is solid. If he keeps this up, he'll be our bridge to holder. Bases loaded, no outs = 1 run. Very impressive
 

engie

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He's always been pretty dominant when healthy...

Certainly has closer stuff.
 

missouridawg

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I would be in suport of putting Bracewell

into the Satuday starting role. Limit his pitch count to 60 pitches. Bring in Ross Mitchell afterwards.

Keep Evan Mitchell for midweek games to back up Cox.

What sucks about this baseball team is that our two most talented pitchers (Woodruff, Mitchell) aren't contributing very much.
 

shoeless joe

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into the Satuday starting role. Limit his pitch count to 60 pitches. Bring in Ross Mitchell afterwards.

Keep Evan Mitchell for midweek games to back up Cox.

What sucks about this baseball team is that our two most talented pitchers (Woodruff, Mitchell) aren't contributing very much.

no doubt those two have the best stuff on the staff...but i would not say evan is not contributing. if not for errors he would have gone 4+ allowing no more than two runs last nite. while that's not great it certainly wouldn't have been terrible if we had taken advantage of early opportunities to score. i'm not ready to give up on him yet but if woodruff gets back to normal we will definitely have a good problem deciding on the weekend rotation.
 

drt7891

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I completely agree on Evan... the big inning we gave up yesterday was because we failed to field a (tough) ****. That is certainly not on Evan. I'd give him another shot. He showed some stuff yesterday, but when he starts missing, he misses big. Butch should know when he's reached his limit and to pull him before he gets there. He and Ross can be a very good tandem, if used well.
 

JacksonDevilDog

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I think Bracewell's role is where he excells.

He has the mentality of a long relief/closer guy. We need Woodruff and Mitchell to get the spiders out of their head.

into the Satuday starting role. Limit his pitch count to 60 pitches. Bring in Ross Mitchell afterwards.

Keep Evan Mitchell for midweek games to back up Cox.

What sucks about this baseball team is that our two most talented pitchers (Woodruff, Mitchell) aren't contributing very much.
 

drt7891

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Evan wasn't bad yesterday, for the most part. The inning where we failed to field the **** hurt his confidence and he started missing low, but he did his job. Mitchell wasn't even in the top 3 reason we lost yesterday... and I'd be just fine starting him again next weekend. He and Ross make for a good tandem if we know exactly when to get Evan out of the game.
 

missouridawg

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There has been a theme in the replies to my post that I feel needs to be addressed.

My opinion on Bracewell taking over for Evan has very, very little to do with Evan's performance yesterday. I'm not the emotional roller-coaster that the average baseball poster on SPS seems to be.

Mitchell, in my opinion, can't be trusted. Every time he trots out to the mound, he doesn't get past the 5th inning. He's consistently wild and his body of work this year is grounds for a "to-the-bullpen" demotion. I think Bracewell could give you the 3 or 4 innings on Saturdays that Evan is currently giving.
 

Todd4State

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I don't know

Ben's velocity is now like 86-89 which is down from where it was when he first got to MSU (91-93). I think they are afraid that starting him would burn him out like last year. As it is, they only want to use him once a weekend if at all possible.

Believe me, I agree- I don't trust Evan Mitchell, and Cox gave up the two run home run to Katz in extra innings, so actually Evan pitched better this weekend. We may end up with Pollorena again at some point this year. The best case scenario is that Woodruff gets things figured out and gets back in the rotation.
 

JacksonDevilDog

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Exactly what Todd said. The coaches weren't banking on Woodruff struggling early. Every time Mitchell throws, I feel that he may strike out 12 or walk the bases loaded in the first. It almost seems like he's wondering the same thing. He threw well Saturday and he needs to build on that. I'm hoping that we throw Woodruff Tuesday vs the Corn.

Edited to add: Just saw that Woody will throw vs Alcorn on Tuesday.

Ben's velocity is now like 86-89 which is down from where it was when he first got to MSU (91-93). I think they are afraid that starting him would burn him out like last year. As it is, they only want to use him once a weekend if at all possible.

Believe me, I agree- I don't trust Evan Mitchell, and Cox gave up the two run home run to Katz in extra innings, so actually Evan pitched better this weekend. We may end up with Pollorena again at some point this year. The best case scenario is that Woodruff gets things figured out and gets back in the rotation.
 

Will James

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Wasn't Holder billed as a SP but found a niche as a closer last year. It's out of the box but with Holders recent hiccups but obvious great stuff, what about him starting and move Shelly to the 8th and Ben closing.

I have little faith that Mitchell can find what he needs to be effective in the SEC. Cox isn't ready. Pollo is great in his role now, our tough schedule would probably get to him. But Holder has the dominant power stuff and actually control it. Gives us the same dynamic bringing Ross in to bridge it until the 8th.

Just an idea.
 

msstate7

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Exactly what Todd said. The coaches weren't banking on Woodruff struggling early. Every time Mitchell throws, I feel that he may strike out 12 or walk the bases loaded in the first. It almost seems like he's wondering the same thing. He threw well Saturday and he needs to build on that. I'm hoping that we throw Woodruff Tuesday vs the Corn.

Edited to add: Just saw that Woody will throw vs Alcorn on Tuesday.

I would love to see woodruff look sharp and insert him Sunday vs Kentucky. Use Evan in relief. I think he could excel in one inning stretches. I'd also love to be able to use Ross Mitchell Fridays if needed. We can't right now bc of inconsistency of Evan.
 

Will James

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Wasn't Holder billed as a SP but found a niche as a closer last year. It's out of the box but with Holders recent hiccups but obvious great stuff, what about him starting and move Shelly to the 8th and Ben closing.

I have little faith that Mitchell can find what he needs to be effective in the SEC. Cox isn't ready. Pollo is great in his role now, our tough schedule would probably get to him. But Holder has the dominant power stuff and actually control it. Gives us the same dynamic bringing Ross in to bridge it until the 8th.

Just an idea.

Bump for thoughts. This is obviously null and void if Woodruff can find himself. Currently however he is Captain Junuh in the woods and his Bagger has yet to show up.
 

CadaverDawg

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I'm in. Holder has looked far from unhittable in his last few appearances as a closer, while Mitchell can't give us more than 4 innings. I say give Holder a shot, or possibly even Bracewell. Like you said though, Ideally we would get Woodruff's head right, and he would be the Woodruff of the SEC Tournament....
 

Forrest4Moore

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Ben's velocity is now like 86-89 which is down from where it was when he first got to MSU (91-93). I think they are afraid that starting him would burn him out like last year. As it is, they only want to use him once a weekend if at all possible.

Believe me, I agree- I don't trust Evan Mitchell, and Cox gave up the two run home run to Katz in extra innings, so actually Evan pitched better this weekend. We may end up with Pollorena again at some point this year. The best case scenario is that Woodruff gets things figured out and gets back in the rotation.

Bracewell has been consistently 90-92 with his fastball on the stadium gun for most of the year. Just pointing that out. Everything else is correct and justified about the fear of stretching him out and such. But his velocity is there.
 

Todd4State

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Every time I look up

Bracewell has been consistently 90-92 with his fastball on the stadium gun for most of the year. Just pointing that out. Everything else is correct and justified about the fear of stretching him out and such. But his velocity is there.

I see 89 it seems like, but I will admit that I don't watch the speed of every single pitch and I haven't been to every single game.