Brandon Speck is impartial***

[futaba.79]

Here recently when I travel........

and I typically associate with other educated adults, not inebriated kids, they tell me that the Mississippi State NCAA tourney story changed their way of looking at Mississippi. Something to do with how courageous our school was in 1963 as opposed to what happened elsewhere in Mississippi. All these decades they'd associated Mississippi with the shame your school continually brings on our state. They apologized for lumping our school in with the other.

Your party scene and nice little town don't mean a damn thing out in the real world. And that, my friend, is a fact.

 

[ckDOG]

I have anecdotes too!

When I go skiing every spring break since the blind side came out people come up and talk about how great the movie was, and I'm not wearing a Michael Oher jersey. When I go to NY, people talk to me about Eli, and I'm not wearing his Giants jersey. Everywhere I go, if Im wearing OM gear someone will either talk about our recruiting class or any of those other topics I listed earlier that make it in the NY Times, Huffington Post, WSJ etc.

If we can't have national recognition because we are from the south, then why are the most prestigious media outlets in the country drumming up how OM has some of the best tailgate, campus, party, college town, student body, etc. Is being talked about in a positive light by multiple national publications not the definition of national recognition? If not how do you measure national recognition?

Your logic basically says that if you are in the south, you can't have national recognition unless you're a national contender in college sports. So are you saying that State doesn't have more national recognition than say UAB? Troy? La Tech? I would say USM, but they have actually have a football grad that people have heard of.

And FTR every single hotty toddy celeb has some connection to OM, they aren't just paid actors.

OM and State fans will always have a hard time being objective towards one another but at least I'm using facts instead of made up theories

When I've traveled to the Northeast and talked football with co-workers/clients, the Eli thing inevitably comes up. Sorry to inform you, but the only connotation Eli has with MS among the masses is that he played college in MS. The majority of the time is goes like this...

Northeast person: "Oh, you went to school in Mississippi?" (Sidenote: this usually is accompanied by a strange stare, as if they are surprised I'm wearing shoes or could carry on a conversation)
Me: "Yes, I went to Mississippi State"
Northeast person: "That's the school Eli went to, right?"
Me: "No, that's Ole Miss"
Northeast person: "Oh yeah, the school with the funny name".

Sure, to the college football fanatic, they are going to know who Ole Miss is. They are also going to know who MSU is. We are both members of a major conference. I know who Iowa State and University of Iowa are. Do you think I actually care about either? No - it's Iowa, but I watch football, so I know who they are in the football context. If U of Iowa had some goofy *** name like Massa' Wa, I might remember the name, but I still wouldn't care and would likely have to ask which one had the stupid name from time to time. Hell, those schools might have articles published about the great things they do in the great Huffington Post as well. Would I know? No. Why? I don't care about Iowa.

You guys have the grove though - so you win. Teach me how to tailgate.

ETA: No disrespect meant towards the State of Iowa or either of the institutions that I mentioned. I'm sure the State and the Universities are fine places to visit. I still don't care about them...

 

[GhostOfJackie]

Al Sharpton might

 

[GhostOfJackie]

So you get more national recognition for being connected to Oher, BlindSide, Mannings, The Grove, cool college town, bowties, and Shep? Yes, people from up north know your name more than ours. I get that.

In the south, people that REALLY know your fan base think you're a bunch of egotistical pieces of privilaged dog ****. Not just the MSU fan base but the entire SEC. The entire Southeast for that matter. People know that you live in a fantasyland where Ole Miss is the best thing that ever happened to America. We are your friends and neighbors, we call the shots how we see them. And we laugh at your high and mightyness.

And that has NO bearing at all on moving the egg bowl back to thanksgiving.

 

[engie]

OM and State fans will always have a hard time being objective towards one another but at least I'm using facts instead of made up theories

Lol @ the illusion of elitism.

All-time actual on-the-field record vs the SEC "Big 6"(counting ties as half a victory and half a defeat) submitted humbly without any further comment.

 

[FQDawg]

Shoot, it's an issue even in the South

I've lived in Alabama, Kentucky and Louisiana and there are people in those states that can't tell us apart. Admittedly these aren't hard core sports fans but if folks in SEC states get us confused you know people in the rest of the country don't care about either one of us.

 

[RocketDawg]

I was just "fixin'" to ask the same thing.

 

[RocketDawg]

OM has Archie, Eli, Patrick Willis, Michael Oher, Mike Wallace, etc
States most famous football player is Eric Moulds

OM has the grove, Oxford, Faulkner, and Shep

Every week some national publication prints an article our top 10 college town, top bar, top restaurant, most beautiful campus, most beautiful student body, top tailgating, top gameday atmosphere and that crap goes on an on an on.

Whether you agree with that stuff doesn't matter, national media believe it and are writing it. State's most famous alumni has a house in Oxford. You guys can't be so biased to think we are on the same playing field nationally just because some idiot from ESPN confuses the MS schools from time to time. Cash spending a night in jail is the most national news Starkville has ever received

I can give you Faulkner, but I don't think I'd brag about "Shep". He's a blithering idiot, and not even a graduate of Ole Miss. Oxford is just another small, rural Mississippi town ... nothing more, nothing less. And I'm not sure very many people on the national level know about The Grove. In fact, although I'm sure quite a few people have heard of Ole Miss, they don't know where it is, nor do they know it's a nickname for the University of Mississippi.

And "alumnus" is the singular form of the word, not "alumni", which is the plural. You should have learned that at Ole Miss ... or actually in high school.

 

[RocketDawg]

You kind of exaggerated there ... not every SEC sports fan knows the difference in MSU and Ole Miss. I have several friends who are huge Alabama fans and not a one of them knows the difference in our two schools. And we're less than 200 miles from both campuses.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

I really wish you guys were as important as you think you are. I'll give you Giants fans that know Eli in New York.

Pretty much everywhere else I have been across the country no one knows who Ole Miss or MSU are... period.

 

[rabiddawg]

OM has the grove, Oxford, Faulkner, and Shep

So you have trees, a town full of coke heads, an alcoholic pedophile and a homosexual....



Yea, I'm good.

The only reason Ole Miss is known nationally has something to do with the National Guard, John Kennedy and a fellow just trying to go to school...

 

[rabiddawg]

Everywhere I go, if Im wearing OM gear someone will either talk about our recruiting class or any of those other topics I listed earlier that make it in the NY Times, Huffington Post, WSJ etc.

If we can't have national recognition because we are from the south, then why are the most prestigious media outlets in the country drumming up how OM has some of the best tailgate, campus, party, college town, student body, etc. Is being talked about in a positive light by multiple national publications not the definition of national recognition? If not how do you measure national recognition?

It may have something to do with the fact that Ole Miss has a Journalism school and they graduate journalists who go to work for journalism companies who print journalism magazines about things the journalists want to talk about and as you have clearly or cleverly shown all yall want to talk about is Ole Miss and how imprortant they are to a crowd who could care less.

Guess that's why State is thought of so highly in the fields of engineering, agri-buisness and accounting......because we graduate engineers, agri-buisness leaders and accountants.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

This post is as 'Ole Miss' as it gets. Awesome.

 

[DocHolliday.sixpack]

Hey kid.....this is hilarious reading here!

All I can really do is laugh. I feel an answer isn't even warranted, considering the asinine pompous chest pounding from you. You really have no clue based on your post. Thanks for the laughs on how "recognizable" you guys feel while on your "yearly spring break skiing trips". Comedy value there! If you were only half important as you thought.

 

[MaronMatters]

If we can't have national recognition because we are from the south, then why are the most prestigious media outlets in the country drumming up how OM has some of the best tailgate, campus, party, college town, student body, etc. Is being talked about in a positive light by multiple national publications not the definition of national recognition? If not how do you measure national recognition?

Meanwhile, OM still can't fill up their damn stadium.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

Ole Miss is in the imploding business...and business is boomin'.

 

[QuadrupleOption]

OM has Archie, Eli, Patrick Willis, Michael Oher, Mike Wallace, etc
States most famous football player is Eric Moulds

OM has the grove, Oxford, Faulkner, and Shep

Every week some national publication prints an article our top 10 college town, top bar, top restaurant, most beautiful campus, most beautiful student body, top tailgating, top gameday atmosphere and that crap goes on an on an on.

Whether you agree with that stuff doesn't matter, national media believe it and are writing it. State's most famous alumni has a house in Oxford. You guys can't be so biased to think we are on the same playing field nationally just because some idiot from ESPN confuses the MS schools from time to time. Cash spending a night in jail is the most national news Starkville has ever received

Aaaaand.....just like that, Brad Edwards on Out of Bounds called Ole Miss' fanbase delusional. You know, national ESPN sportswriter? The guy who talks to other national sportswriters?

Also, the only two household names on that list you provided would be Eli and Patrick Willis. No one knows Oher for his football, and Mike Wallace has had a pretty decent career but nothing to set him apart from every other good receiver in the NFL.

So if you're claiming them, we'll go ahead and claim David Stewart, Derrick Sherrod, Pernell McPhee, Fletcher Cox and Vick Ballard.

Hell, even Tommy Kelly's still kicking around the league ten years after BMFAU-ing around these parts.

 

[Maroonthirteen]

Even in Arkansas. On occassion I would be wearing MState garb and folks over there would ask if I went to Ole Miss. Also, i heard their fans call us "Mississippi" often.

 

[grimedawg1]

Brad Edwards

This topic is so funny considering what Brad Edwards said on OOB this morning. There needs to be a link to that interview posted here.

 

[HD6]

It is hard to believe we've played Alabama as many times as they have played Alabama AND Auburn.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Agree, great point ...

It is hard to believe we've played Alabama as many times as they have played Alabama AND Auburn.

Also ... note that State has played the 'big 6" 403 times while OM has only played them 321.

Guess they were too busy playing those 'other' SEC powerhouses ... Tampa and UT Chatanooga**

 

[SignalToNoise]

Personal experiences. Nice. They really hold up. Just take my experience, for example.

I was sitting at a bar in downtown Philly in early '09 -- this is a true anecdote, by the way -- wearing an MSU hat. As the bartender hands me a beer, he takes notice of my maroon hat with the interlocking MSU and asks "Hey man, didn't your team just beat Texas Tech in a bowl game? Is that good?"

Yeah, Ole Miss is such a nationally recognized name that bartenders are over the northeastern united states know the school colors.

 

[Buford T. Justice]

Waiting on Oxford Godfrey to show his *** on this.

He will say Speck is impartial.

I will say bullcrap. I have a picture of Speck and family in the grove, wearing Ole Miss clothes, posing with Colonel Reb.

He will say no picture exists.

I will post said picture.

He will claim he can't see said picture then get on twitter and say 4-letter words about MSU fans.

Rinse. Repeat.

 

[JackShephard]

ESPN spokesman Mike Humes cited each team's recent success....

"That is what makes for compelling television, and ESPN spokesman Mike Humes cited each team’s recent success as a reason the network wanted to move the game."


Read more: Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal - BRAD LOCKE Moving Egg Bowl game shows interest in rivalry is high ​

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

Left off one part: Optimus Prime will then come in and edit your post and make it appear that you apologized to Godfrey for being wrong.

 

[codeDawg]

^^^^ Nickname should be "Tallest Midget"

Do you honestly believe UM is more nationally relevant than any other school in our conference not named Mississippi State?

 

[UIUCDog]

When I go skiing every spring break since the blind side came out people come up and talk about how great the movie was, and I'm not wearing a Michael Oher jersey. When I go to NY, people talk to me about Eli, and I'm not wearing his Giants jersey. Everywhere I go, if Im wearing OM gear someone will either talk about our recruiting class or any of those other topics I listed earlier that make it in the NY Times, Huffington Post, WSJ etc.

Riiight. Dollars to donuts you flat out made this **** up.

 

[State82]

Hey, you forgot your sarcasterisks. Pay attention next time.

 

[Frexzell]

Are you really associating Faulkner with Ole Miss? Have you ever read a Faulkner novel? He shat all over the "old South" that Ole Miss epitomizes. Also, Faulkner only attended one semester there I believe. He openly despised Ole Miss and its students (read Sanctuary). Also, the Ole Miss library banned Faulkner for years. I love that you can somehow equate Faulkner with Ole Miss. Oxford, yes -- Ole Miss, no.

 

[Rezpup]

This hits the nail on the head and this game is perfect for Thanksgiving. It is good for both and the recognition debate is silly and moot.