BREAKING NEWS: Another mass shooting, this time in San Bernardino California

[TheEgyptianMagician]

First off, you didn't mention what some of those orange countries' statuses are (for example: the highly developed and affluent UAE, shaded in orange, publicly flogs for adultery, alcohol consumption, etc)

Secondly (regarding yellow on that map), most readers of this forum would consider it pretty damn barbaric for countries to allow child marriage, discrimination against women's testimony in family court, or allowing a rapist to walk free if he marries his victim (this is even allowed in "cosmopolitan" Tunisia, for example, which is actually shaded green on that map).

A little flogging never hurt anyone; in fact I'm pretty sure it's still the law here in SC or was atleast until recently that I can take my wife (should I have one someday) down to the courthouse Sunday morning and beat her with stick if need be. No it's not equivalent, yes that is tongue in cheek.

I said earlier that severity of implementation varied where implemented, so I don't see how I was being misleading. The purpose of the map is not to be exact, it is to refute earlier blanket statements that were made that don't hold up to scrutiny.

 

[P.PattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor]

it's pretty damn surreal that 1 out of every 10 Turkish citizens has a ****ing favorable view of ISIS

 

[bluelifer]

it's pretty damn surreal that 1 out of every 10 Turkish citizens has a ****ing favorable view of ISIS

Probably oughta go ahead and count those "don't know" votes as favorable too. "Don't know" what? Don't know what ISIS is, or don't know if you're a fan?

My ***.

 

[Free_Salato_Blue]

it's pretty damn surreal that 1 out of every 10 Turkish citizens has a ****ing favorable view of ISIS

Or our "ally" Pakistan that we supply military equipment and aid to.
Never understood why we support them more than India.

 

[P.PattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor]

Or our "ally" Pakistan that we supply military equipment and aid to.
Never understood why we support them more than India.

Pakistan is a perfect example of what happens when you have the dumb idea of dividing a county in two parts based upon religious affiliations. I'm shocked that things turned out so poorly.

 

[P.PattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor]

From the Pew Reports:

we should also point out that Nigeria is only about 50% Muslim to begin with.

They're also the most important country in Africa and hopefully a long term ally for the US. To have that type of polling re: Islamic extremism after they've seen what's happened with Boko Haram is terrifying.

 

[WettCat]

Having talked to friends of mine in Turkey, Tunisia and northern Iraq---they are typically careful of what they say as they realize they may be singled out for their stances. Thus, I wouldn't automatically put those in the "Don't Know" column as supporting ISIS. (And those are for the most part the more progressive locations in the area, some of the others may be even more hesitant to speak out.)

With regards to the breakdown of individuals in these countries....

FWIW, I'm not trying to take up for Muslims around the world in this debate. But...I don't agree that "all" or a "majority" of Muslims support ISIS or the use of terrorist activities. Muslims are BY far the biggest victims of their own extremists so don't think for a minute there isn't disdain for their actions.

 

[P.PattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor]

FWIW, I'm not trying to take up for Muslims around the world in this debate. But...I don't agree that "all" or a "majority" of Muslims support ISIS or the use of terrorist activities. Muslims are BY far the biggest victims of their own extremists so don't think for a minute there isn't disdain for their actions.

At the same time, hundreds of millions of Muslims hold both personal and political views that would be labeled "extreme" were it not for the fact that other members of their same religion are running around detonating suicide vests.

Death for apostasy? Extreme. However, you can be labeled a "moderate" Muslim (statistically).

 

[warrior-cat]

http://www.assaultweapon.info/

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I posted this in the political thread but thought it needed to be here to just in case someone needed clarification.

 

[AustinTXCat]

yea but did ya give her the pork?

Often. T'was superb.

 

[KingOfBBN]

Having talked to friends of mine in Turkey, Tunisia and northern Iraq---they are typically careful of what they say as they realize they may be singled out for their stances. Thus, I wouldn't automatically put those in the "Don't Know" column as supporting ISIS. (And those are for the most part the more progressive locations in the area, some of the others may be even more hesitant to speak out.)

With regards to the breakdown of individuals in these countries....

FWIW, I'm not trying to take up for Muslims around the world in this debate. But...I don't agree that "all" or a "majority" of Muslims support ISIS or the use of terrorist activities. Muslims are BY far the biggest victims of their own extremists so don't think for a minute there isn't disdain for their actions.

Even if you take the terrorism aspect out of Islam, it still shows how messed up and barbaric the ideology is. Their doctrine is super evil and dangerous in countries where they're the majority. Stoning women is still advocated by "moderate" Muslims in modern day. They are super backwards with their beliefs. They treat women like crap. There is still stonings for adultery, rape victims, execution to gays or people who leave Islam, etc. There are at least a 1,000 honor killings of women annually in Pakistan.

Their doctrine also allows them to rape/molest uncovered women, which is why Sweden has turned into the rape capital of the west after Muslim migration.

 

[starchief]

At a press conference today one of the family lawyers mentioned that she wore a burqa in her daily life. Doubt there are many photos out and about. I think I heard the FBI has photos of her.

 

[UKSlim]

A Radical Muslim wants to behead you.
A Moderate Muslim wants a Radical Muslim to behead you.

 

[qwesley]

The GOP and ISIS are like the leads of a bad romantic-comedy who only *think* they hate each other because they have way too much in common.

David Ehrlich, Rolling Stone

 

[starchief]

I'm not tech savvy but why cannot the ISIS propaganda and recruitment internet sites be shut down? It appears that many get radicalized through reading those sites.

 

[warrior-cat]

But many more get radicalized through the Quran.

 

[qwesley]

BBC

 

[IdaCat]

 

[qwesley]

NYT editorial board calls for the ownership of certain kinds of weapons and ammunition to be outlawed for the good of the country.

Front page editorial tmro.

 

[LowCountryCat]

DO I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY?
> The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
> The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
> The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
> The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
> The U.S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
> The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
> The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
> The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
> The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
> The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
> The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
> The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
> The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
> The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
> The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
> The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
> The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
> The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
> The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
> The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
> The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
> The first World Trade Centre Bombers were Muslims
> The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
> The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
> The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims
>
> ‘THINK OF IT!
> Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
> Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
> Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
> Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
> Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
> Confucians living with Baha’is = No Problem
> Baha’is living with Jews = No Problem
> Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
> Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
> Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
> Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
> Hindus living with Baha’is = No Problem
> Baha’is living with Christians = No Problem
> Christians living with Jews = No Problem
> Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
> Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
> Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
> Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
> Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem
>
> *********WHEREAS**************
> Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
> Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
> Muslims living with Christians = Problem
> Muslims living with Jews = Problem
> Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
> Muslims living with Baha’is = Problem
> Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
> Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
> MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM
> **********SO THIS LEADS TO ****************
> They’re not happy in Gaza
> They’re not happy in Egypt
> They’re not happy in Libya
> They’re not happy in Morocco
> They’re not happy in Iran
> They’re not happy in Iraq
> They’re not happy in Yemen
> They’re not happy in Afghanistan
> They’re not happy in Pakistan
> They’re not happy in Syria
> They’re not happy in Lebanon
> They’re not happy in Nigeria
> They’re not happy in Kenya
> They’re not happy in Sudan
> **** SO,> > WHERE ARE THEY HAPPY? ****
> They’re happy in Australia
> They’re happy in England
> They’re happy in Belgium
> They’re happy in France
> They’re happy in Italy
> They’re happy in Germany
> They’re happy in Sweden
> They’re happy in the USA & Canada They’re happy in
> Norway & India
> They’re happy in almost every country that is not
> Islamic!
> And who do they blame? Not Islam… Not their
> leadership…Not> > themselves… THEY BLAME THE
> COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!! And they want to change the
> countries they’re happy in, to be like the countries they
> came from, where they were unhappy!!!!
> I’m completely stumped……Any idea who might be causing
> the problem???

 

[NCukcat62]

DO I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY?
> The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
> The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
> The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
> The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
> The U.S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
> The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
> The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
> The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
> The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
> The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
> The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
> The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
> The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
> The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
> The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
> The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
> The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
> The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
> The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
> The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
> The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
> The first World Trade Centre Bombers were Muslims
> The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
> The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
> The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims
>
> ‘THINK OF IT!
> Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
> Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
> Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
> Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
> Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
> Confucians living with Baha’is = No Problem
> Baha’is living with Jews = No Problem
> Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
> Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
> Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
> Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
> Hindus living with Baha’is = No Problem
> Baha’is living with Christians = No Problem
> Christians living with Jews = No Problem
> Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
> Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
> Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
> Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
> Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem
>
> *********WHEREAS**************
> Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
> Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
> Muslims living with Christians = Problem
> Muslims living with Jews = Problem
> Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
> Muslims living with Baha’is = Problem
> Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
> Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
> MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM
> **********SO THIS LEADS TO ****************
> They’re not happy in Gaza
> They’re not happy in Egypt
> They’re not happy in Libya
> They’re not happy in Morocco
> They’re not happy in Iran
> They’re not happy in Iraq
> They’re not happy in Yemen
> They’re not happy in Afghanistan
> They’re not happy in Pakistan
> They’re not happy in Syria
> They’re not happy in Lebanon
> They’re not happy in Nigeria
> They’re not happy in Kenya
> They’re not happy in Sudan
> **** SO,> > WHERE ARE THEY HAPPY? ****
> They’re happy in Australia
> They’re happy in England
> They’re happy in Belgium
> They’re happy in France
> They’re happy in Italy
> They’re happy in Germany
> They’re happy in Sweden
> They’re happy in the USA & Canada They’re happy in
> Norway & India
> They’re happy in almost every country that is not
> Islamic!
> And who do they blame? Not Islam… Not their
> leadership…Not> > themselves… THEY BLAME THE
> COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!! And they want to change the
> countries they’re happy in, to be like the countries they
> came from, where they were unhappy!!!!
> I’m completely stumped……Any idea who might be causing
> the problem???

You sir win the internet today, Muslims need to pay. They are the problem.

 

[NCukcat62]

Having talked to friends of mine in Turkey, Tunisia and northern Iraq---they are typically careful of what they say as they realize they may be singled out for their stances. Thus, I wouldn't automatically put those in the "Don't Know" column as supporting ISIS. (And those are for the most part the more progressive locations in the area, some of the others may be even more hesitant to speak out.)

With regards to the breakdown of individuals in these countries....

FWIW, I'm not trying to take up for Muslims around the world in this debate. But...I don't agree that "all" or a "majority" of Muslims support ISIS or the use of terrorist activities. Muslims are BY far the biggest victims of their own extremists so don't think for a minute there isn't disdain for their actions.

I'm sorry my man, they all must be cleansed. Only through pain and suffering shall that wretched group be cleansed. The world has finally woken up to their b.s. and now want them to be dead, except for low and behold the United States.

 

[warrior-cat]

DO I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY?
> The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
> The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
> The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
> The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
> The U.S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
> The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
> The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
> The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
> The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
> The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
> The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
> The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
> The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
> The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
> The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
> The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
> The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
> The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
> The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
> The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
> The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
> The first World Trade Centre Bombers were Muslims
> The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
> The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
> The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims
>
> ‘THINK OF IT!
> Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
> Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
> Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
> Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
> Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
> Confucians living with Baha’is = No Problem
> Baha’is living with Jews = No Problem
> Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
> Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
> Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
> Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
> Hindus living with Baha’is = No Problem
> Baha’is living with Christians = No Problem
> Christians living with Jews = No Problem
> Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
> Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
> Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
> Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
> Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem
>
> *********WHEREAS**************
> Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
> Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
> Muslims living with Christians = Problem
> Muslims living with Jews = Problem
> Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
> Muslims living with Baha’is = Problem
> Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
> Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
> MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM
> **********SO THIS LEADS TO ****************
> They’re not happy in Gaza
> They’re not happy in Egypt
> They’re not happy in Libya
> They’re not happy in Morocco
> They’re not happy in Iran
> They’re not happy in Iraq
> They’re not happy in Yemen
> They’re not happy in Afghanistan
> They’re not happy in Pakistan
> They’re not happy in Syria
> They’re not happy in Lebanon
> They’re not happy in Nigeria
> They’re not happy in Kenya
> They’re not happy in Sudan
> **** SO,> > WHERE ARE THEY HAPPY? ****
> They’re happy in Australia
> They’re happy in England
> They’re happy in Belgium
> They’re happy in France
> They’re happy in Italy
> They’re happy in Germany
> They’re happy in Sweden
> They’re happy in the USA & Canada They’re happy in
> Norway & India
> They’re happy in almost every country that is not
> Islamic!
> And who do they blame? Not Islam… Not their
> leadership…Not> > themselves… THEY BLAME THE
> COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!! And they want to change the
> countries they’re happy in, to be like the countries they
> came from, where they were unhappy!!!!
> I’m completely stumped……Any idea who might be causing
> the problem???

They are the problem and have been for thousands of years. In addition, many on the left are too in this country lead by the biggest muslim sympathizer Barak Husein Obama.

 

[UKserialkiller]

They are the problem and have been for thousands of years. In addition many on the left are too in this country lead by the biggest muslim sympathizer Barak Husein Obama.

Warrior. I know you won't believe it. But Obama is an atheist. 100% fact.

He's the face for the social justice warrior movement. That's the problem.

 

[LowCountryCat]

Warrior. I know you won't believe it. But Obama is an atheist. 100% fact.

He's the face for the social justice warrior movement. That's the problem.

Agreed, the SJWs will use any cause, such as gay marriage, to destroy our culture. And then they will discard the cause. The cause is just the tool.

 

[WettCat]

Where does the Obama atheist stuff come from? First I've heard of that. Wouldn't shock me, but haven't seen it anywhere.

 

[warrior-cat]

Warrior. I know you won't believe it. But Obama is an atheist. 100% fact.

He's the face for the social justice warrior movement. That's the problem.

Yes but, he can still sympathize with them and I think he does given his track record. "Fundamentally change America" was and still is his goal.

 

[UKserialkiller]

Where does the Obama atheist stuff come from? First I've heard of that. Wouldn't shock me, but haven't seen it anywhere.

An author who did his autobiography a few years ago.

 

[UKserialkiller]

Yes but, he can still sympathize with them and I think he does given his track record. "Fundamentally change America" was and still is his goal.

I agree Warrior. He is sympathizing, but nor for religious reasons.

 

[UKserialkiller]

Agreed, the SJWs will use any cause, such as gay marriage, to destroy our culture. And then they will discard the cause. The cause is just the tool.

Exactly. I doubt any of the gays want this kind of negative representation.

SJWs are like a roach infestation.

 

[LowCountryCat]

The Soviets did the same thing. They used gays to infiltrate the US and set up honeypots. But they had just as fervent anti-gay laws as the muslim countries do.

 

[TortElvisII]

Obama wants to disarm Americans and bring in more people from the Middle East to settle here. The man clearly sees the real problem. It is guns for the average American. Not muslim terrorist.

2017 cannot get here soon enough.

 

[warrior-cat]

Obama wants to disarm Americans and bring in more people from the middle east to settle here. The man clearly sees the real problem. It is guns for the average American. Not muslim terrorist.

2017 cannot get here soon enough.

I have not been an NRA member for a very long time. I was once but, felt the organization was too money hungry. Now, I am going to be again and think many others should do so as well. They will need the money to fight off Obama and Hillary's push to destroy this country and our right to defend ourselves.

 

[TortElvisII]

Those one in ten Turks sure made a lot of noise at that soccer game.

 

[KingOfBBN]

Obama wants to disarm Americans and bring in more people from the Middle East to settle here. The man clearly sees the real problem. It is guns for the average American. Not muslim terrorist.

2017 cannot get here soon enough.

Absolutely. The dude said he wanted to transform this country and he has wrecked it in seven years. We will be like Europe, we won't even be recognizable soon. Illegals/Refugees/Muslims get to come to majority white countries and reproduce at a rate that makes them the majority. All of the American customs and culture that we have had for our existence gets tossed aside for PC nonsense and we allow the guests to dictate what we do in our country.

You think it's a coincidence that majority white countries are always the ones targeted for "diversity" and "multiculturalism." That doesn't happen to Saudi Arabia, China, Japan, etc. Our educators constantly push anti-white and anti-Christian rhetoric on the masses of sheep.

This president, his admin and the media his party owns have done so much freaking damage to us. And he has absolutely shown his bias on a daily basis when it comes to whites vs blacks, police vs criminals, and Christianity vs Islam.

 

[UKWinsAgainYep]

From the Pew Reports:

I guess that's why the crowd cheered for ISIS and booed the moment of silence for Paris victims during a soccer halftime in Turkey. I guess reality isn't comfortable for liberals.

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

Reality is what you make it; for instance you obviously have no interest in Turkish demographics, politics, or precipitating recent events in Turkey.

 

[UK_Dallas]

Breaking news in London of a guy slashing the throat of a fellow passenger in the tube and shouting "this is for Syria".

 

[TortElvisII]

Reality is what you make it; for instance you obviously have no interest in Turkish demographics, politics, or precipitating recent events in Turkey.

Why would that be a bad thing?

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

There's nothing admirable about being ignorant of world events.


Video of London attacker

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe...ck-witnesses-stabber-yelled-support-for-syria