Briles + Sellers + NIL?

[18IsTheMan]

Now that we have Briles in the fold, is it worth throwing more NIL money at Sellers? Given his play this last season, not all of which can be attributed to the OL, I was fine with letting him walk if that he was inclined to do. Now that we have Briles, though. I don't wonder if we should go all-in on next year and give Sellers the bag. Otherwise, Briles will be coming here as we break in a brand new QB. I hate it, but if we want to maximize next season, we probably do that with Sellers.

 

[Lurker123]

Now that we have Briles in the fold, is it worth throwing more NIL money at Sellers? Given his play this last season, not all of which can be attributed to the OL, I was fine with letting him walk if that he was inclined to do. Now that we have Briles, though. I don't wonder if we should go all-in on next year and give Sellers the bag. Otherwise, Briles will be coming here as we break in a brand new QB. I hate it, but if we want to maximize next season, we probably do that with Sellers.

Does a qb whose weakness is the passing game, and decision making fit what Brikes wants to do?

 

[sclawman77]

Yeah, not sure how Sellers fits in Briles' system. Will be interesting

 

[18IsTheMan]

Does a qb whose weakness is the passing game, and decision making fit what Brikes wants to do?

Here's hoping. I go back and forth on Sellers. On the one hand he was rough this year. He made some bad decisions, even when not under duress. When under duress, he often took bad sacks or ran out of bounds for a loss when he could have easily thrown the ball away. I think Briles could clean a lot of that up. The thing with Sellers is he instantly a different QB when Shula took over. Every poster here noticed the drastic difference in his play starting in the bowl game.

It could be a dream but the Sellers from the latter half of 2024 combined with Briles could be lethal. Maybe that Sellers was a mirage though.

 

[TooBiggz]

Is $5 mil plus whatever other endorsements not already “all in”?

 

[18IsTheMan]

Is $5 mil plus whatever other endorsements not already “all in”?

Nobody actually knows how much he's getting. Could be $5 million or $500,000 or anything else.

After this season, I would have said an NIL decrease was in order, or let him go pro or transfer if he wanted. Just wondering if maybe we should try to actually keep him to pair him with a real OC.

 

[Cockofdawn]

Lets hope Sellers isnt the next Anthony Wright, if he is, we need to have a true Competition for the starting Job, if Sellers stays!! Maybe Woods is as good as Advertised, and with the help of Briles, he can turn into a very good QB..

 

[Lurker123]

Nobody actually knows how much he's getting. Could be $5 million or $500,000 or anything else.

After this season, I would have said an NIL decrease was in order, or let him go pro or transfer if he wanted. Just wondering if maybe we should try to actually keep him to pair him with a real OC.

I saw a repeated number a lot, 3.7 million. Of course, with all things NIL, you never really know. But if that was even ballpark, I think we could get a pretty decent qb for that much.

Of course, you said in another thread that Briles may be able to fix Sellers. That is true too.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I saw a repeated number a lot, 3.7 million. Of course, with all things NIL, you never really know. But if that was even ballpark, I think we could get a pretty decent qb for that much.

Of course, you said in another thread that Briles may be able to fix Sellers. That is true too.

I think Duckworth looks really, really good. Probably not start as a true freshman good, but there's a reason Lane was putting the full court press on him.

My imagination is just running wild. If we could recapture Sellers from 2024 and pair that with Briles............

 

[SC95]

If I am Sellers, I am playing for a future NFL contract, not a one-year NIL deal. I'd sacrifice some NIL money to get better offensive lineman who can give me time to throw and open up the rushing attack.

Sellers WAS a projected first round pick, if not the first QB pick. If I am staying in college (he needs more development), I want to be in the best position to develop and show what I can do with a competent OC and good linemen.

 

[Lurker123]

I think Duckworth looks really, really good. Probably not start as a true freshman good, but there's a reason Lane was putting the full court press on him.

My imagination is just running wild. If we could recapture Sellers from 2024 and pair that with Briles............

What was the major difference in Sellers 24 to 25? His passing stats were nearly identical. I think his aggressive running was the major difference.

It would be great to bring that back, but is that the type of qb that Briles wants to run his tempo/passing offense?

Heck, will Briles even run that offense? If hes good, he'll adjust his scheme to his players, not vice versa.

 

[18IsTheMan]

What was the major difference in Sellers 24 to 25? His passing stats were nearly identical. I think his aggressive running was the major difference.

It would be great to bring that back, but is that the type of qb that Briles wants to run his tempo/passing offense?

Heck, will Briles even run that offense? If hes good, he'll adjust his scheme to his players, not vice versa.

I can't say I've followed him, but what I've briefly read is that he's good at adjusting his scheme to his QBs strengths.

From a layman's perspective, it seems Shula was trying to make Sellers a pocket passer. Even starting with the bowl game, there was such a drastic difference in his style of play. Taneyhill noted this season that they were trying to make him a pocket passer and that it would never work. That's just not who he is.

 

[Lurker123]

I can't say I've followed him, but what I've briefly read is that he's good at adjusting his scheme to his QBs strengths.

From a layman's perspective, it seems Shula was trying to make Sellers a pocket passer. Even starting with the bowl game, there was such a drastic difference in his style of play. Taneyhill noted this season that they were trying to make him a pocket passer and that it would never work. That's just not who he is.

I agree on Shula.

I caution reading too much into "he adjusts his scheme to his players" only because every new hire has that said about him.

When I'm bored later, ill go look at the stats of his teams over the years.

But for now, I see that he likes tempo, and he was a past first OC at TCU.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I agree on Shula.

I caution reading too much into "he adjusts his scheme to his players" only because every new hire has that said about him.

When I'm bored later, ill go look at the stats of his teams over the years.

But for now, I see that he likes tempo, and he was a past first OC at TCU.

As an OC, his offenses have scored (ppg): 46.6, 32.9, 40.2, 41.8, 26.2, 25.7, 29.8, 32.1, 30.5, 32.5, 29.7

Now that is total points scored. I can't find JUST offensive points scored. Nevertheless, our offense scored in the mid/upper teens this year, so I think even we get the worst of Briles, we should see significant improvement. His offenses at Arkansas got progressively better, going from 25.7 to 29.8 to 32.1.

 

[Lurker123]

As an OC, his offenses have scored (ppg): 46.6, 32.9, 40.2, 41.8, 26.2, 25.7, 29.8, 32.1, 30.5, 32.5, 29.7

Now that is total points scored. I can't find JUST offensive points scored. Nevertheless, our offense scored in the mid/upper teens this year, so I think even we get the worst of Briles, we should see significant improvement. His offenses at Arkansas got progressively better, going from 25.7 to 29.8 to 32.1.

Oh there's no doubt hes an improvement over all of Beamer's previous OC's.

Now I'm just delving I to fit and how his system will work with who we have.

 

[Piscis]

The TCU boards don't seem too upset at him leaving.

 

[sclawman77]

Definitely an upgrade. Facing SEC defenses will pose a challenge too but he has past SEC experience. Offensive scheme is getting a major overhaul.

 

[Lurker123]

The TCU boards don't seem too upset at him leaving.

From what I read, their major complaints were that he moved the ball with passing between the 20's, then bogged down in the red zone due to a lack of running game. And his OL sucked.

In this case, still an improvement over the current staff.

But yes, it would give more confidence if the TCU fans were bummed he was leaving. Remember when Nebraska "stole" Satterfield from us.

 

[Dabo's Weenie]

I agree on Shula.

I caution reading too much into "he adjusts his scheme to his players" only because every new hire has that said about him.

When I'm bored later, ill go look at the stats of his teams over the years.

But for now, I see that he likes tempo, and he was a past first OC at TCU.

I'm guessing that means having receivers run deeper routes than were practiced to compensate for the inevitable overthrows that would be coming?

 

[18IsTheMan]

From what I read, their major complaints were that he moved the ball with passing between the 20's, then bogged down in the red zone due to a lack of running game. And his OL sucked.

In this case, still an improvement over the current staff.

But yes, it would give more confidence if the TCU fans were bummed he was leaving. Remember when Nebraska "stole" Satterfield from us.

The TCU offense averaged right around 30 ppg his entire time there.

I'd take that for the rest of my life.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

This decision that "we" must make to keep Sellers, is not as much of a one sided affair as suggested.

It is entirely up to Sellers to weigh his options, and it is more than just a big offer of NIL money.
Does Sellers want a new environment where he feels he can make more progress, Does Sellers want to adapt to Briles type of offensive scheme, Can a opposing HC make better offers of team projectory, better odds of making the CFP, and better NIL offers.

We will learn soon how Sellers wants to chart his course for his long term future.

 

[Lurker123]

The TCU offense averaged right around 30 ppg his entire time there.

I'd take that for the rest of my life.

Just to play devils advocate. It was TCU, in the B12, against B12 defenses.

The last guy who ran a prolific offense there went to Clemson and failed, in the ACC.

I would then counter that with Briles' SEC experience though.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Just to play devils advocate. It was TCU, in the B12, against B12 defenses.

The last guy who ran a prolific offense there went to Clemson and failed, in the ACC.

I would then counter that with Briles' SEC experience though.

Yeah, Briles was arguably more successful in the SEC.

Coaching hires are a crapshoot. You just never can tell how it will work. Sometimes you get just that right mix of coaching staff makeup and roster makeup. Maybe there's an attainable OC out there would ultimately prove to be better than Briles, but we don't have a crystal ball. All we can say for the moment is that Beamer hired an established P4 OC, which did not seem feasible.

 

[Go Gamecocks]

How about Briles - Sellers + NIL?

How many wins did we get out of the current NIL $$?

NIL $$ should never guarantee playing time.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

We will learn soon how Sellers wants to chart his course for his long term future.

All the way to the Canadian Football League.

 

[TooBiggz]

Nobody actually knows how much he's getting. Could be $5 million or $500,000 or anything else.

After this season, I would have said an NIL decrease was in order, or let him go pro or transfer if he wanted. Just wondering if maybe we should try to actually keep him to pair him with a real OC.

I’m pretty sure it was documented that he was getting paid 5 million prior to the season plus other incentives, but I don’t have a link to share so take that for what it’s worth

 

[18IsTheMan]

I’m pretty sure it was documented that he was getting paid 5 million prior to the season plus other incentives, but I don’t have a link to share so take that for what it’s worth

No NIL deal is ever documented.

The closest you'll ever get to documented is something along the lines of "...an NIL deal reported to be as much as...."

 

[DeBoer31]

Now that we have Briles in the fold, is it worth throwing more NIL money at Sellers? Given his play this last season, not all of which can be attributed to the OL, I was fine with letting him walk if that he was inclined to do. Now that we have Briles, though. I don't wonder if we should go all-in on next year and give Sellers the bag. Otherwise, Briles will be coming here as we break in a brand new QB. I hate it, but if we want to maximize next season, we probably do that with Sellers.

IF Briles comes...somebody better have a quick, honest convo with Sellers and tell him to look at the QBs numbers in this scheme. He'd be a fool to leave.... even if that meant passing up a couple mill. With him in this offense, lots of good stuff would come quickly. He'd be in space a lot (be it to pass or run). Ball would be out of his hands UBER FAST ..... helping keep him healthy. Numbers/Points stats would demolish all our yearly scoring/offensive records most likely.
If Sellers isn't here....and I'm a HUGE Sellers guy.... it won't matter. This offense can make decent QBs appear to be semi-great, and really good QBs get on Heisman platforms and All American lists.

 

[DeBoer31]

Yeah, not sure how Sellers fits in Briles' system. Will be interesting

He fits! He fits perfectly!!!! Really a mix between RG3 and Cam Newton as far as run pass with his body/set of skills. He would be in space (good for him) a lot and distributing the ball like a point guard .... and sometimes when the defense is spread just enough he would be keeping it for 45 untouched yards. He can make the big throws. He can make the quick throws. Sky is the limit. Don't forget...TCU hasn't been QB talent Central of late but the numbers put up are consistently great.
His best numbers are when he was left to attack how he wanted to attack .... at Baylor and Houston. I just hope he is given as much leeway to run offense his way so USC has the most success on the field.

 

[Lurker123]

He fits! He fits perfectly!!!! Really a mix between RG3 and Cam Newton as far as run pass with his body/set of skills. He would be in space (good for him) a lot and distributing the ball like a point guard .... and sometimes when the defense is spread just enough he would be keeping it for 45 untouched yards. He can make the big throws. He can make the quick throws. Sky is the limit. Don't forget...TCU hasn't been QB talent Central of late but the numbers put up are consistently great.
His best numbers are when he was left to attack how he wanted to attack .... at Baylor and Houston. I just hope he is given as much leeway to run offense his way so USC has the most success on the field.

Does he fit perfectly?

Are Sellers' strengths fast decision making, going through progressions and touch on the intermediate ball?

I personally think his strengths are his long ball and his athleticism (running).

 

[18IsTheMan]

Does he fit perfectly?

Are Sellers' strengths fast decision making, going through progressions and touch on the intermediate ball?

I personally think his strengths are his long ball and his athleticism (running).

I think the key for him is quick decisions. Don't ask him to think too much. Quick developing routes when he's not outside the pocket.

He seems to be an instinctual QB but not terribly cerebral. He's not a Peyton Manning. That's not necessarily a knock, it's just not his strength. He seems to be at his best when his athleticism is used and he creates things. Going back to what Taneyhill said about it being a mistake to try forcing him to be a pocket passer. He's not gonna sit in the pocket (not that he's ever had much of a chance) and diagnose and dissect a defense.

 

[Lurker123]

I think the key for him is quick decisions. Don't ask him to think too much. Quick developing routes when he's not outside the pocket.

He seems to be an instinctual QB but not terribly cerebral. He's not a Peyton Manning. That's not necessarily a knock, it's just not his strength. He seems to be at his best when his athleticism is used and he creates things. Going back to what Taneyhill said about it being a mistake to try forcing him to be a pocket passer. He's not gonna sit in the pocket (not that he's ever had much of a chance) and diagnose and dissect a defense.

This is my thought too. Now, does Briles' system promote a qb to run, avoid decisions and have a preplanned route without a lot of progressions?

Edit: I went back and looked at TCU's qb, and they had the same qb all 3 years.

His rushing total for those three years were 5yds, -19 yds and 4 yds.

Obviously sacks take that number down, but I dont think he was a very mobile qb, and was not being used as one.

 

[TooBiggz]

No NIL deal is ever documented.

The closest you'll ever get to documented is something along the lines of "...an NIL deal reported to be as much as...."

Ok, so it was reported to be $5 mil

 

[Lurker123]

Ok, so it was reported to be $5 mil

We looked this up att he beginning of last season.

The 3.7 million was repeated often.

Top 25 college athletes with highest NIL valuations | FOX Sports

With Cooper Flagg, Shedeur Sanders and Travis Hunter off to the pros, here are the 25 athletes with the highest NIL valuations for 2025-26.

www.foxsports.com

Top 25 college athletes with highest NIL valuations | FOX Sports

With Cooper Flagg, Shedeur Sanders and Travis Hunter off to the pros, here are the 25 athletes with the highest NIL valuations for 2025-26.

www.foxsports.com

Which means they were all probably quoting the same source.

 

[USCALUMNI]

Who knows. Fix the O-line problem a USC and see how Sellers plays out. I predict you will see a better Quarter Back product with and O-line improvement. GO COCKS

USCALUMNI

 

[Uscg1984]

Nobody actually knows how much he's getting. Could be $5 million or $500,000 or anything else.

If nobody knows how much he is getting, are we in a position to debate whether he should get more?