Bringing in the fences at Dudy-Noble?

[Todd4State]

Cohen mentioned that they are looking at all possible options as far as Dudy-Noble. The Swan thought that he meant bringing in the fences a little bit. Personally, I'm not so sure about that. I think it could mean anything from a new stadium to doing nothing.

At any rate, I'm not sure that bringing in the fences really helps or hurts us. The opponent has to play on the exact same field- any changes like that in theory would mean more home runs for MSU as well as our opponents and it should equal out. In theory of course.

The ball is not going to carry at Dudy-Noble in Feb. and March no matter what. And when the weather does heat up, Dudy-Noble could become a launching pad depending on how much they bring the fences in.

Where it could help is with recruiting power hitters. I really think Cohen likes to have a lineup with at least a decent amount of power in it- along with guys that can play small ball and run. And yes, it could hurt with recruiting pitchers- but I would hope that Cohen would not bring in the fences so much that we would become the Coors Field of the South. So, a happy medium could attract more power guys and not hurt recruiting with pitchers. You also have to take into consideration that we play in some smaller parks on the road and I think Cohen wants us to be able to slug it out with people like Auburn if we have to.

 

[Todd4State]

Cohen mentioned that they are looking at all possible options as far as Dudy-Noble. The Swan thought that he meant bringing in the fences a little bit. Personally, I'm not so sure about that. I think it could mean anything from a new stadium to doing nothing.

At any rate, I'm not sure that bringing in the fences really helps or hurts us. The opponent has to play on the exact same field- any changes like that in theory would mean more home runs for MSU as well as our opponents and it should equal out. In theory of course.

The ball is not going to carry at Dudy-Noble in Feb. and March no matter what. And when the weather does heat up, Dudy-Noble could become a launching pad depending on how much they bring the fences in.

Where it could help is with recruiting power hitters. I really think Cohen likes to have a lineup with at least a decent amount of power in it- along with guys that can play small ball and run. And yes, it could hurt with recruiting pitchers- but I would hope that Cohen would not bring in the fences so much that we would become the Coors Field of the South. So, a happy medium could attract more power guys and not hurt recruiting with pitchers. You also have to take into consideration that we play in some smaller parks on the road and I think Cohen wants us to be able to slug it out with people like Auburn if we have to.

 

[FlabLoser]

Another reason I can't get into baseball.

People would be livid if schools made their football field to some arbitrary size.

 

[rabiddawg]

just like Florida does

 

[bill brasky.sixpack]

If you hit a ball out in the gaps of Dudy Noble then you have some serious power<div id="myEventWatcherDiv" style="display:none;"></div><div>
</div><div>They could stand to bring in the gaps a few feet and center with the wall out there as well</div><div>
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[PineGroveBully]

When opponents were hitting, alledgedly

 

[KurtRambis4]

but with the way we have recruited and what Cohen has preached lately, I feel we won't be bringing the fences in anytime soon.

 

[57stratdawg]

I wouldn't mind to see us shave the power allys a bit.

 

[MedDawg]

If Todd4State doesn't know, then it's probably not gonna happen.

 

[RougeDawg]

If we could recruit some smashers we wouldn't need to bring it in. Recruit small and bring the fences in, is the way to go.**

 

[Todd4State]

of course, we have the big wall there, and I think it's about 330 or so in the LF and RF corners- one is shorter than the other. That's about standard for a college/MLB stadium. So, I agree- if they do anything, bringing in the fence at the power alleys is where it would be.

 

[Todd4State]

You look at guys that he has recruited like Wes Rea, Nick Flair, Brandon Woodruff, Hunter Renfroe, and then in our 2013 class Reid Humphries, as well as Daryl Norris- we have been recruiting some guys that have some power potential. Daniel Garner in our current class that we just signed also has some pretty good power- he has won some home run derbies in high school.

Cohen was talking about small ball the past two years because that was what we had for the most part because it's hard to find truly legit power hitters at the JUCO level when you are trying to build up a program. He was using a style that fit the players that we had and the ballpark. I'm sure he also knew that we were going to play some freshmen like Norris and a lot of times power comes later as they develop as players. Ogden and Vickerson did a pretty good job of giving us some pop last year.

 

[KurtRambis4]

with our offense and everything to do with our defense.

 

[kimmer]

A small-ball team increases their advantage against a power hitting team in a larger ball park because it allows more room for base hits to fall and turns towering HRs into long outs. Conversely, shorter fences maximize the advantage of a team that relies on the long ball. It squeezes the field for base hitters and allows more fly balls to leave the park

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

If they move them in and someone breaks my record I say an Asterisk is called for.

 

[MedDawg]

Since it's for the good of the school, it should be okwithany significant other if you have to choose several different mothers. Just pick big/strong ones. Maybe even put potential mates through batting practice to pick the best candidates.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

toolatetocheckthebatsbruceused???

But seriously Bruce, it seems the fences were not as deep in the Power Alleys in the late 70's through early 90's. Weren't they moved back when we got the new fence?

 

[dawgs.sixpack]

Another reason I can't get into baseball.

People would be livid if schools made their football field to some arbitrary size.

that's like saying you can't get into football because of the arbitrary nature of pass interference calls and the arbitrary increase in sensitivity to anything resembling helmet to helmet contact. <div>
</div><div>der different sports are different der.</div>

 

[Todd4State]

Should I put an asterisk by Rafael Palmeiro?

With these new bats and limits on how many games that are played, I would say that your records are safe unless we just happen to get an absolute freak show of talent type guy.

 

[Shmuley]

to become our "hitting instructor" ... with a special request that he bring along his "medicine cabinet" as well.

 

[Jacknut1]

I think it helps us when it comes time to go to Hoover (a big park). Our guys are used to fielding, hitting, pitching in a big park.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

The old green Easton was very comparable to what they legislate today. we had a minus 3 or 4 length to weight ratio.

When I was there the green centerfield wall said 410. However, at some point I was told that the 395 was the measurement to the base of the fence and 410 was an estimate of the distance necessary to hit it over the wall. So it was corrected.

the fence is where it was when I and Will and Rafael played there. It was never moved out.

I personally think lack of power production is due to the hitting theories of today. Everyone is so worried about contact and maximizing contact. So when a young player is taught to hit they never really learn how to swing out of their shoes. It is amazing to me that a guy like Joe Mauer (6'5" 235) can hit .350 and only hit 10 homeruns a year in a small ballpark when a guy like Jimmy Wynn (5' 10" 160) hit 30+ in the Astrodome. Yes he sacrificed some average points for those power numbers.

I have rethought my actual approach. We used to say that you hit a homerun by accident. You had to swing within yourself etc. But what really happened was I learned to swing out of my shoes to hit the ball as far as possible first. Then I learned how to control it a little. So effectively I was trying to hit a homerun every at bat becasue that is what the development plan was. Mentally you don't want to have it in your head at the time but the whole approach from the beginning was to hit it far and hard. Just did not need to hit it 500 feet to get it over the fence so I cut it back to 450 to improve contact.

So there has to be an ability, but you also need to train to use that ability.

 

[bill brasky.sixpack]

it became a dead zone for the gaps. There used to be a wind that would blow out, but not once they put in the boxes. Some of the problem with the numbers is that State hasn't had a big power guy since the late 90's. If we had a good Left Handed dead pull guy he could crush homeruns to right field (See Stephen Head's monster shot into the RV lot around 04 or 05). Part of Polk II's problem was his hitting philosophy, which was almost a pure 2 strike approach, just preaching oppo, oppo, oppo. It is strange considering Raffo was the exact opposite when he played.<div id="myEventWatcherDiv" style="display:none;"></div><div>
</div><div>With all of that being said, I still think they could stand to bring in the gaps about 5 or 10 feet.</div>