Bronny James update.

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johnson86-1

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Looked out of curiosity.

The three players drafted after him:

Ariel Hukporti
- Has 7.9 minutes per game over 19 games. Averaging 1.8 for the knicks. 70% fg%, 54% FT. Don't know that they missed out on much by picking Bronny over him.

Ulrich Chomche - Played in 16 games, started 1, playing 25.2 minutes per game, 8.1 pts per game, 58.6% fg%, 46.7% FT%; 8.4 reb. 3.1 blocks per game.

That actually looks pretty solid for a rookie. Not sure if the Raptors are just terriblea nd he's padding stats for a bad team, but I would assume a center with those stats is going to stick around for a while?

Kevin McCullar Jr. - Been rehabbing a knee injury and hasn't played yet.



Definitely gave up something to draft him but from a financial perspective, I'm sure keeping James happy was worth blowing the draft pick, even if keeping James happy at this point may not be the best thing for them on the court.
 

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Looked out of curiosity.

The three players drafted after him:

Ariel Hukporti - Has 7.9 minutes per game over 19 games. Averaging 1.8 for the knicks. 70% fg%, 54% FT. Don't know that they missed out on much by picking Bronny over him.

Ulrich Chomche - Played in 16 games, started 1, playing 25.2 minutes per game, 8.1 pts per game, 58.6% fg%, 46.7% FT%; 8.4 reb. 3.1 blocks per game.

That actually looks pretty solid for a rookie. Not sure if the Raptors are just terriblea nd he's padding stats for a bad team, but I would assume a center with those stats is going to stick around for a while?

Kevin McCullar Jr. - Been rehabbing a knee injury and hasn't played yet.



Definitely gave up something to draft him but from a financial perspective, I'm sure keeping James happy was worth blowing the draft pick, even if keeping James happy at this point may not be the best thing for them on the court.
I dont follow any of this.

- Hukporti is a center that is averaging 1.8 points in 8 minutes per game and will likely not play at all once Robinson is back since that will drop Hukporti to the 5th center...if he even stays on the team.
- Chomche's stats that you reference are from the GLeague. He has played 6 NBA games and has averaged .8ppg.

I cant figure out what the Lakers gave up to draft Bronny(your claim). He was drafted 55th...barely anyone at that spot or lower sees the NBA court in their entire career, much less in their first season. Who should the Lakers have drafted instead, that was known at that time to be a good pick?




Bronny is now what he was in June- a 0 risk draft pick with limited future impact in the NBA.
 

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I dont follow any of this.

- Hukporti is a center that is averaging 1.8 points in 8 minutes per game and will likely not play at all once Robinson is back since that will drop Hukporti to the 5th center...if he even stays on the team.
- Chomche's stats that you reference are from the GLeague. He has played 6 NBA games and has averaged .8ppg.

I cant figure out what the Lakers gave up to draft Bronny(your claim). He was drafted 55th...barely anyone at that spot or lower sees the NBA court in their entire career, much less in their first season. Who should the Lakers have drafted instead, that was known at that time to be a good pick?




Bronny is now what he was in June- a 0 risk draft pick with limited future impact in the NBA.
The fact that he is on the team is what is baffling.

You want to waste a draft pick, sure. The issue is that there are hundreds of guys in the G-League or Europe more worthy of that roster spot. He literally wasn't even a good college player.

He is a 6'2 guard who can't shoot, create, or handle the ball particularly well.
 

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The fact that he is on the team is what is baffling.

You want to waste a draft pick, sure. The issue is that there are hundreds of guys in the G-League or Europe more worthy of that roster spot. He literally wasn't even a good college player.
How many of those players could entice Lebron James to play on their team?
 
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I dont follow any of this.

- Hukporti is a center that is averaging 1.8 points in 8 minutes per game and will likely not play at all once Robinson is back since that will drop Hukporti to the 5th center...if he even stays on the team.
- Chomche's stats that you reference are from the GLeague. He has played 6 NBA games and has averaged .8ppg.

I cant figure out what the Lakers gave up to draft Bronny(your claim). He was drafted 55th...barely anyone at that spot or lower sees the NBA court in their entire career, much less in their first season. Who should the Lakers have drafted instead, that was known at that time to be a good pick?




Bronny is now what he was in June- a 0 risk draft pick with limited future impact in the NBA.
Taking a chance on drafting him is one thing but it’s a bit baffling as to why he’s on the main roster. He was shooting 6% in the G-League and gets called up. Tell me you’re Lebrons son without telling me you’re Lebrons son.
 

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The fact that he is on the team is what is baffling.

You want to waste a draft pick, sure. The issue is that there are hundreds of guys in the G-League or Europe more worthy of that roster spot. He literally wasn't even a good college player.

He is a 6'2 guard who can't shoot, create, or handle the ball particularly well.
- I am never baffled by how teams utilize rookies that split time between the GLeague and NBA. They get called up to play, they get called up to literally just sit, they get called up to fill in for an injury, they get called in to fill in for a trade, and they get called up to gain experience.
I have no idea why the Lakers have used him more in the last couple weeks.

- He has played in 19 games and only 5 times has it been for any amount of meaningful minutes(4 or more). He has basically played in 5 games with any sort of meaningful time.
That is so small that it just doesnt matter at all. Why anyone would be upset or frustrated over it is beyond me.

- Again, how was that draft pick wasted? Who should they have drafted instead in that spot, that would have been able to fill a known need?

- 'more worthy' and 'more deserving' are not how NBA rosters are set or how NBA contracts are negotiated. During the regular seasons Haslem averaged 9 games played per year over his last 7 seasons, and averaged 7 minutes of play in those games. He was paid by the Heat for 7 seasons and averaged just over 1 hour of time on the court each season.
Of course there are other players in the world who could have contributed more than that, but the Heat kept him for reasons.



Bronny getting a handful of minutes in a few recent games deserves nothing more than a 'huh, whatever' level of response. Dude is a total non-factor.
 

johnson86-1

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I dont follow any of this.

- Hukporti is a center that is averaging 1.8 points in 8 minutes per game and will likely not play at all once Robinson is back since that will drop Hukporti to the 5th center...if he even stays on the team.
- Chomche's stats that you reference are from the GLeague. He has played 6 NBA games and has averaged .8ppg.

I cant figure out what the Lakers gave up to draft Bronny(your claim). He was drafted 55th...barely anyone at that spot or lower sees the NBA court in their entire career, much less in their first season. Who should the Lakers have drafted instead, that was known at that time to be a good pick?




Bronny is now what he was in June- a 0 risk draft pick with limited future impact in the NBA.
The something is a low likelihood chance of hitting on a late draft pick. The website I pulled the stats for chomke from indicated it was for the raptors, not the g-league. That obviously would have been great production out of a late round draft pick if it were nba stats.
I just pulled the three people after him because those are three players they plausibly would have drafted but I would assume that late in the draft there are no consensus picks and they might have had two dozen other players that went un drafted that would have been on their board before those theee.
 

mstateglfr

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Taking a chance on drafting him is one thing but it’s a bit baffling as to why he’s on the main roster. He was shooting 6% in the G-League and gets called up. Tell me you’re Lebrons son without telling me you’re Lebrons son.
This says that in 11 GLeague games so far, he has shot 38% overall and averaged 16.3ppg, 4.1rpg, and 4.3apg.

Am I looking at wrong stats or are you and another poster looking at wrong stats?


As for him being on the Lakers roster, yeah I dont get it, but as I posted a few minutes ago, NBA rosters arent comprised of only the most deserving players based on pre-determined metrics.
 

mstateglfr

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The something is a low likelihood chance of hitting on a late draft pick. The website I pulled the stats for chomke from indicated it was for the raptors, not the g-league. That obviously would have been great production out of a late round draft pick if it were nba stats.
I just pulled the three people after him because those are three players they plausibly would have drafted but I would assume that late in the draft there are no consensus picks and they might have had two dozen other players that went in drafted that would have been on their board before those theee.
Its OK to just say 'yeah, I am wrong and the numbers I looked up arent for what I claimed. My points dont apply'.


As for the subsequent players being ones the Lakers would have plausibly drafted...the 2 that have played are centers. Did the Lakers have an established need for a project center?
 

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So, Bronny is only there because of his dad? I do not get the need to chase the numbers when the answer is this obvious. If he were Bronny Smith he would sell used cars.
 
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- I am never baffled by how teams utilize rookies that split time between the GLeague and NBA. They get called up to play, they get called up to literally just sit, they get called up to fill in for an injury, they get called in to fill in for a trade, and they get called up to gain experience.
I have no idea why the Lakers have used him more in the last couple weeks.

- He has played in 19 games and only 5 times has it been for any amount of meaningful minutes(4 or more). He has basically played in 5 games with any sort of meaningful time.
That is so small that it just doesnt matter at all. Why anyone would be upset or frustrated over it is beyond me.

- Again, how was that draft pick wasted? Who should they have drafted instead in that spot, that would have been able to fill a known need?

- 'more worthy' and 'more deserving' are not how NBA rosters are set or how NBA contracts are negotiated. During the regular seasons Haslem averaged 9 games played per year over his last 7 seasons, and averaged 7 minutes of play in those games. He was paid by the Heat for 7 seasons and averaged just over 1 hour of time on the court each season.
Of course there are other players in the world who could have contributed more than that, but the Heat kept him for reasons.



Bronny getting a handful of minutes in a few recent games deserves nothing more than a 'huh, whatever' level of response. Dude is a total non-factor.
K
 

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Its OK to just say 'yeah, I am wrong and the numbers I looked up arent for what I claimed. My points dont apply'.


As for the subsequent players being ones the Lakers would have plausibly drafted...the 2 that have played are centers. Did the Lakers have an established need for a project center?
You are reading way too much into this. That is why I said there could have been two dozen other players. I wasn’t trying to analyze which pick they would have made or predict it. I just looked at the three because I was curious. if I had thought they missed on a rookie scoring 9 a game with 3 blocks a game, I would have said the made a terrible decision. And I wouldn’t have included the other two people.
 
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This says that in 11 GLeague games so far, he has shot 38% overall and averaged 16.3ppg, 4.1rpg, and 4.3apg.

Am I looking at wrong stats or are you and another poster looking at wrong stats?


As for him being on the Lakers roster, yeah I dont get it, but as I posted a few minutes ago, NBA rosters arent comprised of only the most deserving players based on pre-determined metrics.
So in others you agree with me that he hasn’t done anything to merit being called up which was the whole point I was trying to make.
 

mstateglfr

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So in others you agree with me that he hasn’t done anything to merit being called up which was the whole point I was trying to make.
If I were GM or HC, I wouldnt bring him up(unless LBJ said he wouldnt play until it happened) right now.
So yeah, it doesnt seem like he has done enough to merit playing. But like I said, that isnt the only reason why players make rosters and stay on them for years and years.

If it seemed like I was disagreeing with your point, I was really just disagreeing with your stats. The guy isnt great, but he isnt anywhere close to as atrocious as you posted.
I am 44 and even I could make more than 6% of my shots in a G League game...the issue would be never getting open to show out!
 

Drebin

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I dont follow any of this.

- Hukporti is a center that is averaging 1.8 points in 8 minutes per game and will likely not play at all once Robinson is back since that will drop Hukporti to the 5th center...if he even stays on the team.
- Chomche's stats that you reference are from the GLeague. He has played 6 NBA games and has averaged .8ppg.

I cant figure out what the Lakers gave up to draft Bronny(your claim). He was drafted 55th...barely anyone at that spot or lower sees the NBA court in their entire career, much less in their first season. Who should the Lakers have drafted instead, that was known at that time to be a good pick?




Bronny is now what he was in June- a 0 risk draft pick with limited future impact in the NBA.
Bronny was a publicity stunt. He was given a spot he wasn't worthy of because of his dad. He failed because he sucks. But hey, Lebron got to play with his kid for a brief moment, so box checked.
 
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Bronny was a publicity stunt. He was given a spot he wasn't worthy of because of his dad. He failed because he sucks. But hey, Lebron got to play with his kid for a brief moment, so box checked.
noted.
 

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Someone should show these stats to the NBA=slavery guy.
Its like paying him a years salary for one row of cotton that didn't even produce.
 

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Just speaking in mathematical terms here, but I’m unclear on how anyone, and I do mean ANYONE, can somehow manage enough shot attempts - in the NBA - to have a shooting percentage of less than 0.1%. I mean WTF. Is he 1 for 1,102, yet still getting playing time?
 

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Just speaking in mathematical terms here, but I’m unclear on how anyone, and I do mean ANYONE, can somehow manage enough shot attempts - in the NBA - to have a shooting percentage of less than 0.1%. I mean WTF. Is he 1 for 1,102, yet still getting playing time?
That is 9.1%. It’s displayed like a batting average.

Edit: Also, just my thoughts on the topic as a whole. Yes, he’s only on the team because he’s Lebron’s son. It’s a feel-good story. It was apparently important to LeBron that they get to play together.
If you’re a top player on the Lakers’ G League team who conceivably would have a spot otherwise, you have a right to be miffed about it. For anyone else, I really can’t see mustering the energy to care at all.
 
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Perd Hapley

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That is 9.1%. It’s displayed like a batting average.

Edit: Also, just my thoughts on the topic as a whole. Yes, he’s only on the team because he’s Lebron’s son. It’s a feel-good story. It was apparently important to LeBron that they get to play together.
If you’re a top player on the Lakers’ G League team who conceivably would have a spot otherwise, you have a right to be miffed about it. For anyone else, I really can’t see mustering the energy to care at all.
Except for FG% is absolutely never displayed like batting average. That’s the whole point of putting the “%” sign after it. It’d be called “batting %” instead of batting average, if they were the same….and the best hitter’s on planet earth would get on base once or twice per season in MLB.

Anyway, just a pet peeve. You can’t even get a proper hate tweet anymore without someone royally 17ing it up, because they can’t pass 3rd grade math. It’s not like 9.1% sounds any better. Content creator sucks even more than Bronny. At least Bronny has the excuse that he can’t go back and proofread each of his shots.
 
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