Brunetti wavering. link.
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I have to say that after reading this it really make me think that he coming to Starkville. I have a hunch that he is being courteous to the WVU coach and not announce anything until he has an in home visit with him.
after their visit to MSU and Brunetti is no different. For all the abuse we take in the media and from rival schools concerning the Starkville stereotype, once we get them here, our campus, facilities, fans, etc., more times than not are a great closer to the deal. its my opinion, MSU is a great example of underpromise and overdeliver.
With that said, I think what helps perpetuate this initial image is something that MSU has control over, and that is the open endzone. We should have broke ground November 30th on an endzone enclosure. Jackie used to brag that our stadium seats more people endzone to endzone than any other SEC stadium outside of UT. For that reason, we do not need a huge endzone structure today, just something we can expand with skyboxes in the future. Or demolish and start over. I have always thought that Titans stadium in Nashville is a great model of what DWS could look like.
I know that this has been discussed at nauseum, but when I hear comments like that from recuits, that is what comes to mind. Agree or fire away.
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With that said, I think what helps perpetuate this initial image is something that MSU has control over, and that is the open endzone. We should have broke ground November 30th on an endzone enclosure. Jackie used to brag that our stadium seats more people endzone to endzone than any other SEC stadium outside of UT. For that reason, we do not need a huge endzone structure today, just something we can expand with skyboxes in the future. Or demolish and start over. I have always thought that Titans stadium in Nashville is a great model of what DWS could look like.
I know that this has been discussed at nauseum, but when I hear comments like that from recuits, that is what comes to mind. Agree or fire away.
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fool me twice shame on me. I refuse to let myself believe we have ANY chance at this guy until I actually hear him say he is switching his commitment. After the Cameron Newton saga I just am not going to get my hopes up in any way over another highly rated QB. And that is not to say this guy in any way could help us immediately like Newton could have.
It certainly doesn't hurt that Brunetti's mom is pushing and begging him to go to MSU. That being said, it sounds like he bonded well with other recruits and coaches on the visit. Maybe he saw the light of getting to play SEC football instead of going to WV. West Virginia is not the end of the world, but you can sure see it from there.
I said the same thing but if youre anything like me, you definitely feel like we have a chance but you wont admit it. Youre just trying to fool yourself into thinking otherwise. The only thing with Cam, most NEW we had him but in Brunetti's case, we just feel we have a chance.
IBleedMaroonDawg said:
who is 6 feet tall any day. Brunetti is the MINIMUM size as far as a QB in the SEC. To me, 6'0" is not undersized. There's a HUGE difference between 5'8" and 6'0".
Not to mention that Brunetti has better throwing mechanics than Favre as well, and at least as much speed.
I am thinking he could really add some depth there if he's any good. I think he'll play secondary before he plays qb, especially if we get Brunetti. He'll never sniff the field as QB if we sign Brunetti.
Not to get into a Brunetti vs. Favre debate here because if I had to choose one or the other, I'd probably choose Brunetti too. But don't act like 1" difference in listed height is anything significant. They're both short and that could be an issue for either of them, both of them, or neither of them.</p>
with Favre and Brunetti, Brunetti is about 1/2" to 3/4" taller than Favre. This guy said Favre was just over 5'11" and Brunetti was just under 6'0". Both are too short in my opinion but, not only are they both taller than Lee, I guarentee you they are both better QBs also.
we want a 5'8" safety running around back there, either.
Favre is what he is- a guy with a famous last name that probably will be a holder for us. Not that there's anything wrong with that. At worst, it's good publicity, and he is better than Ty Evans and Tray Rutland. He's also better than Tyson Lee. So, it could be worse.
Favre is what he is- a guy with a famous last name that probably will be a holder for us. Not that there's anything wrong with that. At worst, it's good publicity, and he is better than Ty Evans and Tray Rutland. He's also better than Tyson Lee. So, it could be worse.
There's a reason the Sixpack godfathers chose the slogan for this site. You just have to follow my simple two step guide:
1. Never get your hopes too high (Sidney, Newton, 2001 football, etc. etc. etc.)
2. On those rare but glorious occasions when everything does start falling into place (2009 SEC tourney run, 2007 regional & super-regional, the moment Kevin Prentiss crossed the goal line in Atlanta, or the entire magical March 1996) -- enjoy the hell out of the ride while it lasts.
patdog said:
Exactly. From what I have heard they are both right about the same height (just a tad under 6'), but you would never know it reading posts here about either of them.
Just to be clear about what I heard, I had a friend who was on the sidelines at the MHSAA football championships who said he stood right next to Farve a couple of times and estimated he was about 5' 11" in comparison to his own height.
Bob Sanders is 5'8.
Before you go making assumptions, no I am not saying that Dylan Favre is even half the football player Bob Sanders is. Simply pointing out that at first glance, we would not give him a shot based on his size.
Before you go making assumptions, no I am not saying that Dylan Favre is even half the football player Bob Sanders is. Simply pointing out that at first glance, we would not give him a shot based on his size.
profile a fact. I know he's listed at 5'10". Unless you believe all of the 40 times on there are facts as well. They exagerrate stuff all the time to make them look more attractive to teams. It has been done for years and years, even before the recruiting craze
I'm going by what someone told me who has actually stood next to the guy and has no reason to lie to me and I trust, and also based on what I've seen in his videos. He doesn't look like he is 5'10" to me at all. My friend MAY be off by an inch at most. But regardless, 5'9"-5'10" is still too small.
Like I've said, and always will- 6 foot minimum. Even the Drew Brees's of the NFL world are at least that tall.
I'm just being objective. If his last name wasn't Favre, no one would talk about him.
I'm going by what someone told me who has actually stood next to the guy and has no reason to lie to me and I trust, and also based on what I've seen in his videos. He doesn't look like he is 5'10" to me at all. My friend MAY be off by an inch at most. But regardless, 5'9"-5'10" is still too small.
Like I've said, and always will- 6 foot minimum. Even the Drew Brees's of the NFL world are at least that tall.
I'm just being objective. If his last name wasn't Favre, no one would talk about him.
Or do they somehow exaggerate Favre's size but not other recruits? As for his last name, I don't give a **** about that. In fact, until I saw him play I DIDN'T want to sign him just because I don't like his uncle. So, for me personally, his name was a negative he had to overcome. After seeing him play, I think he has a chance to be a good QB. Not based on stats or anything like that, but based on what I saw on the field.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/event-139;_ylt=Ajw31CN8p8I0ZNMlALYc0h1HPZB4?prospect_id=84627
I don't know if the combines make it a habit of inflating measurables or not. But, they said 6'.
At any rate, they are both undersized for a QB. Any argument about either of their heights is just a pissing match. They both could stand to grow a little.
If somebody wants to separate the two with regard to their passing abilities, just watch either of them throw: Brunetti throws over the top and Favre winds up and sidearms it a bit. Brunetti is already ahead of Favre when it comes to "throwing taller" - if that makes any sense. Effectively, they both probably see the passing lanes as good as the other, but Brunetti is going to have less of a problem making his throws than Favre will. Hopefully, Favre has a correctable problem - only time will tell.
I don't know if the combines make it a habit of inflating measurables or not. But, they said 6'.
At any rate, they are both undersized for a QB. Any argument about either of their heights is just a pissing match. They both could stand to grow a little.
If somebody wants to separate the two with regard to their passing abilities, just watch either of them throw: Brunetti throws over the top and Favre winds up and sidearms it a bit. Brunetti is already ahead of Favre when it comes to "throwing taller" - if that makes any sense. Effectively, they both probably see the passing lanes as good as the other, but Brunetti is going to have less of a problem making his throws than Favre will. Hopefully, Favre has a correctable problem - only time will tell.
Guys, he is what he is. Recruiters and HC's have stood next to him. They (unlike your friends friend) know exactly what height and weight he is. If, and its a big if, he was "just under 6 ft" do you honestly believe a kid with his stats gets only a sniff at a scholly from USM as a d-back (his own words, mind you) and a offer from MSU?
patdog said:
that recruiting sites exagerrate stuff all the time for ALL players. Did they do that for Brunetti? Probably. But if one guy is exagerrated at 5'10" and one is exagerrated a 6'0", which one do you think is taller?
I'm also basing my opinion of Favre on what I saw on the field as well. His mechanics are horrible, and he's reckless. His arm strength is decent. It's not just his size with me, although that is not a positive for him either.
It's very obvious that Brunetti us better than Favre. Why do you think Dan is still recruiting the guy when we have Favre already in the bag?
As far as his name, it doesn't matter whether people like the name or not. It's about marketing. Brett Favre has already mentioned MSU in a press conference at least once. It's no different than the Manning's at Ole Miss. They use it as a marketing tool as well. I don't like the Manning's, but that doesn't matter if they're a bunch of Micheal Vick's- I doubt they are whether you're talking about dog killing or running ability- or are good people- which they probably are- it's good publicity for them. Favre will do the same for us, except it will be more like Cooper Manning than Eli. It's about getting MSU's name out there. Which is why I'm not royally pissed off at Dan for signing him. But people that think that Favre can beat out Russell or Brunetti should be get him, or even Mikhail Miller should we get him, just aren't being very realistic about the situation.
Sutterkane woya said:
We also have Johnathan Banks and Charles Mitchell for the next couple of years, and then probably Wells and Thames. He could MAYBE do it, but I'm not sure that he could beat one of those guys out.
Corey Broomfield is undersized, but he makes plays. Favre would have to do that for him to have a chance in the secodary.
...Do you realize for the next four years the MSU starting QB is going to be well over 6 ft tall?
You people are bitching about scenarios that will not take place until the year 2014 (unless Russell gets hurt).
Between now & 2014, do you think Mullen will sign a QB over 6ft tall? I would say the chance of that happening is about 100%.
It's amazing how this board can get worked up about things far in the future, things that will have absolutely no bearing on the 2010, 2011, 2012 or 2013 football seasons.
This board acts like Favre & Brunetti are both going to start in 2010. And all of America is going to laugh went they run out on the field in 7 months, because they are "too short." Please get a grip.
You people are bitching about scenarios that will not take place until the year 2014 (unless Russell gets hurt).
Between now & 2014, do you think Mullen will sign a QB over 6ft tall? I would say the chance of that happening is about 100%.
It's amazing how this board can get worked up about things far in the future, things that will have absolutely no bearing on the 2010, 2011, 2012 or 2013 football seasons.
This board acts like Favre & Brunetti are both going to start in 2010. And all of America is going to laugh went they run out on the field in 7 months, because they are "too short." Please get a grip.
who have supposedly stood next to Favre could have such varying opinions on his height. Appears to be taken out of the archives now but I distinctly remember in Rick Cleveland's "He's Got It" article he wrote in early December on Favre where he specifically said that he stood right next to him and that he was right around 5'11, 5'10 minimum, yet we have people on here saying they have "friends" that have stood by him saying he's 5'8 maybe at best 5'9. I'm sorry, but if I stand close to someone I can tell the difference between 5'8 and 5'11. I personally feel that he likely is a legitimate 5'10 even to get the offers he does have.
...but just how did my screen name ever get dragged into this? I have never seen Dylan Farve in person and my only view of Barry Brunetti was from 40 yards away as he talked to other recruits and Mullen at a spring training practice.saltybulldog said:
Russell is going to get injured and we will need a backup qb. However, he has a much better chance of staying healthy than other quarterbacks we have had due to his size.
I'm sure a bulkier QB can take a hit better but height has virtually nothing to do with it. Heck, Lee took a hit as good as any QB we've ever had and he was the smallest we've ever had. Only time I can remember him really getting hurt was the 08 Egg Bowl where he was taking a sack or a hit on virtually every play.
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