Bubble status as of Selection Sunday morning

[msubullie4life]

Here are some nitty gritty for the bubble team heading into today.<div>
</div><div>Notes:</div><div>-Obviously, we desperately want St. Bonaventure to lose in the A10 championship game to Xavier.</div><div>-All data were obtained from warrennolan</div><div>-I've chosen a few important nitty grittydetailsthat the selection committee uses. This wasobservedduring the media mock selection.</div><div>-Go here for the nitty gritty sheet used by the committee:http://www.ncaa.com/selection-101-->Study Guide --> The Stats ---> View the Full Document. Also go through the 'Pop Quiz' to see hat factors decided in choosing Team A over Team B.</div><div>
</div><div>LOCKS:</div><div>

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" class="t1"><tbody><tr><td valign="middle" class="td1"><p class="p1">ACC (4): UNC, FSU, Duke, Virginia</p></td></tr><tr><td valign="middle" class="td1"><p class="p1">A10 (2): Temple, Xavier</p></td></tr><tr><td valign="middle" class="td1"><p class="p1">Big East (7): Syracuse, Georgetown, Marquette, Louisville, ND, UConn, Cincy</p></td></tr><tr><td valign="middle" class="td1"><p class="p1">Big 10 (6): Mich St, Ohio St, Indiana, Wisc, Michigan, Purdue</p></td></tr><tr><td valign="middle" class="td1"><p class="p1">Big 12 (5): Kansas, Baylor, Missouri, KSU, ISU</p></td></tr><tr><td valign="middle" class="td1"><p class="p1">MWC (3): SDSU, UNM, UNLV</p></td></tr><tr><td valign="middle" class="td1"><p class="p1">Pac 12 (1): Colorado</p></td></tr><tr><td valign="middle" class="td1"><p class="p1">SEC (1): Kentucky, Vandy, Bama, Florida</p></td></tr><tr><td valign="middle" class="td1"><p class="p1">CUSA (2): Memphis, USM</p></td></tr><tr><td valign="middle" class="td1"><p class="p1">WCC (2): Zaga, St. Marys</p></td></tr><tr><td valign="middle" class="td1"><p class="p1">MVC (2): Wichita St, Creighton</p></td></tr><tr><td valign="middle" class="td1"><p class="p1">Other 1 bid leagues (20)</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="p1">58 Spots have been taken. 10 remain.</p><p class="p1">Should be IN:WVU, St Louis, Colorado St</p><p class="p1">7 spots left for the bubble teams to fight it out. Here are their resumes. Who do you think makes IN?</p><p class="p1">

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<colgroup><col width="81"><col width="52"><col width="47"><col width="44"><col width="46"><col width="48"><col width="54"><col width="47" span="2"></col></col></col></col></col></col></col></col></colgroup><tbody><tr height="13"><td height="13" class="xl25" width="81"></td><td class="xl26" width="52">Record</td><td class="xl25" width="47">RPI</td><td class="xl26" width="44">SOS</td><td class="xl25" width="46">A+N</td><td class="xl26" width="48">1-50</td><td class="xl25" width="54">51-100</td><td class="xl26" width="47">1-100</td><td class="xl25" width="47">150+</td></tr><tr height="13"><td height="13" class="xl25">NCSU</td><td class="xl27">22-12</td><td class="xl24">48</td><td class="xl27">25</td><td class="xl24">9-6</td><td class="xl27">1-8</td><td class="xl24">5-2</td><td class="xl27">6-10</td><td class="xl24">13-2</td></tr><tr height="13"><td height="13" class="xl25">Miami</td><td class="xl27">19-12</td><td class="xl24">60</td><td class="xl27">43</td><td class="xl24">6-9</td><td class="xl27">2-8</td><td class="xl24">1-3</td><td class="xl27">3-11</td><td class="xl24">13-0</td></tr><tr height="13"><td height="13" class="xl25">USF</td><td class="xl27">19-13</td><td class="xl24">53</td><td class="xl27">28</td><td class="xl24">6-11</td><td class="xl27">2-9</td><td class="xl24">4-1</td><td class="xl27">6-10</td><td class="xl24">9-1</td></tr><tr height="13"><td height="13" class="xl25">Seton Hall</td><td class="xl27">20-12</td><td class="xl24">68</td><td class="xl27">49</td><td class="xl24">7-9</td><td class="xl27">3-7</td><td class="xl24">4-2</td><td class="xl27">7-9</td><td class="xl24">10-2</td></tr><tr height="13"><td height="13" class="xl25">Texas</td><td class="xl27">20-13</td><td class="xl24">50</td><td class="xl27">18</td><td class="xl24">5-10</td><td class="xl27">4-11</td><td class="xl24">0-0</td><td class="xl27">4-11</td><td class="xl24">11-0</td></tr><tr height="13"><td height="13" class="xl25">Northwestern</td><td class="xl27">18-13</td><td class="xl24">63</td><td class="xl27">21</td><td class="xl24">7-8</td><td class="xl27">1-10</td><td class="xl24">4-3</td><td class="xl27">5-13</td><td class="xl24">8-0</td></tr><tr height="13"><td height="13" class="xl25">Marshall</td><td class="xl27">20-13</td><td class="xl24">44</td><td class="xl27">24</td><td class="xl24">8-9</td><td class="xl27">4-6</td><td class="xl24">2-4</td><td class="xl27">6-10</td><td class="xl24">11-1</td></tr><tr height="13"><td height="13" class="xl25">California</td><td class="xl27">24-9</td><td class="xl24">38</td><td class="xl27">86</td><td class="xl24">7-8</td><td class="xl27">0-3</td><td class="xl24">9-4</td><td class="xl27">9-7</td><td class="xl24">11-1</td></tr><tr height="13"><td height="13" class="xl25">Washington</td><td class="xl27">21-10</td><td class="xl24">71</td><td class="xl27">92</td><td class="xl24">6-8</td><td class="xl27">0-5</td><td class="xl24">4-3</td><td class="xl27">4-8</td><td class="xl24">12-0</td></tr><tr height="13"><td height="13" class="xl25">Miss St</td><td class="xl27">21-11</td><td class="xl24">74</td><td class="xl27">76</td><td class="xl24">6-8</td><td class="xl27">2-4</td><td class="xl24">5-5</td><td class="xl27">7-9</td><td class="xl24">10-0</td></tr><tr height="13"><td height="13" class="xl25">Ole Miss</td><td class="xl27">20-13</td><td class="xl24">61</td><td class="xl27">45</td><td class="xl24">8-11</td><td class="xl27">1-7</td><td class="xl24">5-5</td><td class="xl27">6-12</td><td class="xl24">7-0</td></tr><tr height="13"><td height="13" class="xl25">BYU</td><td class="xl27">23-8</td><td class="xl24">46</td><td class="xl27">101</td><td class="xl24">12-5</td><td class="xl27">1-6</td><td class="xl24">4-0</td><td class="xl27">5-6</td><td class="xl24">13-0</td></tr><tr height="13"><td height="13" class="xl25">Iona</td><td class="xl27">25-7</td><td class="xl24">41</td><td class="xl27">144</td><td class="xl24">15-6</td><td class="xl27">0-2</td><td class="xl24">5-1</td><td class="xl27">5-3</td><td class="xl24">15-3</td></tr><tr height="13"><td height="13" class="xl25">ORU</td><td class="xl27">27-6</td><td class="xl24">51</td><td class="xl27">190</td><td class="xl24">12-6</td><td class="xl27">2-2</td><td class="xl24">1-1</td><td class="xl27">3-3</td><td class="xl24">21-2</td></tr><tr height="13"><td height="13" class="xl25">Drexel</td><td class="xl27">27-6</td><td class="xl24">67</td><td class="xl27">213</td><td class="xl24">14-6</td><td class="xl27">1-1</td><td class="xl24">3-2</td><td class="xl27">4-3</td><td class="xl24">19-1</td></tr></tbody></table>
<p class="p1">PS: A+N = Away+Neutral Record</p><p class="p1">PPS: The formatting probably sucks! YUKU!</p></div>

 

[msubullie4life]

<p class="p1">I did some quick positives and negatives for each of the bubble teams.</p><p class="p1">NCSU +ve: A+N, Low SOS; -ve: Top 50, Top 100, 2 bad Ls</p><p class="p1">Miami +ve: No bad L; -ve: Top 50, Top 100</p><p class="p1">USF +ve: Low SOS; -ve: A+N, 1 bad L</p><p class="p1">Seton Hall +ve: 3 Top 50 Ws (in 10 attempts though); -ve: High RPI, 2 bad Ls</p><p class="p1">Texas +ve: Low SOS, 4 Top 50 Ws (in 15 attempts though), No bad L; -ve: A+N, Top 100</p><p class="p1">Northwestern +ve: Low SOS, No bad L; -ve: Top 50, Top 100</p><p class="p1">Marshall +ve: Low SOS, 4 Top 50 Ws; -ve: 1 bad L, Top 100</p><p class="p1">California +ve: Good RPI, Top 100; -ve: Top 50, 1 bad L, High SOS</p><p class="p1">Washington +ve: No bad Ls; -ve: High RPI, High SOS, Top 50, Top 100</p><p class="p1">Miss St +ve: No Bad Ls, 2 Top 50 Ws; -ve: High RPI, High SOS</p><p class="p1">Ole Miss +ve: No bad Ls; -ve: High RPI, Top 50, Top 100</p><p class="p1">BYU +ve: A+N, No bad Ls; -ve: Top 50, High SOS</p><p class="p1">Iona +ve:A+N, Top 100; -ve High SOS(Too many 150+ games), No Top 50 Ws, 3 Bad Ls</p><p class="p1">ORU +ve: A+N, 2 Top 50 Ws; -ve:High SOS (Too many 150+ games), 2 bad Ls</p><p class="p1">Drexel +ve: A+N, Top 100; -ve: High RPI, 1 bad L, Very high SOS (Too many 150+ games)</p><p class="p1">
</p><p class="p1">I think Texas, Cal Marshall, USF might be IN with their resumes. 3 out of BYU, Miss St, Seton Hall and NCSU should round off the bracket. Every team has a case for and a case against their resumes. Even with a horrendous resume, Washington might not be left out by the committee since they are the Pac12 regular season champs. So I guess it's 3 out of 5.</p>

 

[DAWG61]

it'd be NCSU,Texas,Cal,MSU,OM,ORU,Drexel. Ole Miss looked pretty damn good vs Tennessee and I would of given this spot to Tennessee had they won. Ole Miss was the better team. I put them in. We had a very good first 24 games. Plus we pass the common eye test with our wins over Arizona, aTm in MSG, over WVU, Vandy, Bama, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Detroit and our very good showing vs Baylor and first half beat down of UK. We had a bad 5 game stretch but two of those L's were in OT both by 2 points and two more to UK and Bama. The Big East already has too many teams getting in. 17 the Big East bubble teams. ORU and Drexel get in instead of Washington and BYU. BYU is my first team out.

 

[editorfredie]

After watching that video you linked, I think the Dogs have about a 50-50 shot (possibly better) at getting a bid. I keep going back to 2010 when we were sure we were in and the selection committee basically said we needed to win the tourney. Translation: we were on the wrong side of the bubble heading into the tournament and we were in a must-win situation. It's possible that we were on the right side of the bubble this time heading into the conference tournament. If so, we may be OK. I also wonder how much our high profile television games where we lost — Baylor early and Kentucky late — may end up helping us. The way we lost those two games could help. And I think the Vandy win on the road was huge for our resume.<div>But I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm going in expecting we won't see our name on the board. Then again, what happens if we do make it? We never know which team is going to show up.</div>

 

[msudawg200]

I see 4 teams that have no business being selected in my opinion: Washington, Northwestern, Ole Miss, Miami. I will say I base a lot of my opinion on the team's record vs the top 50 and top 100.

Beyond those 4, I don't feel Drexel should be in due to a very weak schedule and a weak rpi. Really the only two things they have going for them is their record and the away/neutral court record. But if they compiled that against mediocre teams, who cares?

Of the remaining 10, I think NCST, Cal, and Iona should be in. That leaves State, Marshall, Texas, Seton Hall, USF, ORU, and BYU for the last 4 spots. Of those teams, I'd have to give the nod to USF, BYU, Seton Hall, and us. I think Texas would be my 1 one out of the tournament. If St. Bonaventure wins today, that would bump us out.

That's not how it will happen I don't think, but that's how I would have it. Not sure why Iona isn't getting a bit more love, especially over Drexel who they have beat everywhere except in overall record.

 

[msubullie4life]

They have two sub 200 losses. No Top 50 wins. I think it's very tough to overcome those negatives. <div>
</div><div>Btw, head to headcomparisonof team resumes can be done over here:</div><div>http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison</div>

 

[o_TomnolenReb]

Ole miss has no business even though their rip and SOS are higher than msu due to one less win against top 100. Your rose glasses are fogging your reasoning. Neither team deserves to be in it.

 

[CadaverDawg]

Bc he has us as the first out, meanwhile you guys aren't really in the discussion anymore.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

..Lunardi has MSU the 3rd "First 4 Out."


Apparently, he thinks a team that began the season 1-8 & doesn't have a winning conference record (Seton Hall) is more worthy than Miami, Iona, MSU & Drexel.


http://espn.go.com/mens-c...-basketball/bracketology

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

There are way more brackets with MSU in them and at the moment I can't find a bracket that has Ole Miss in it. Not saying that State is in but their chances are drastically higher than Ole Miss.

 

[RipleyReb.sixpack]

and there's no doubt that State passes the look test before OM. But....it's not as big a gap as some want to make it out. Don't forget that we did split this season, yet neither of our wins is consider a "good" win (or a bad loss for that matter) by the experts. At this point I think neither are in, and I hope I'm wrong on both accounts. What bothers me is the mediocre teams that get the benefit of the doubt simply because they play in a perceived "basketball" league.