Buy or Sell, we kill Michigan by 14 or more..

[RyanB]

I am gonna have to go ahead and say buy on this one just because of our defensive strength and Michigan's lack of defense. The only other team in the Big 10 with the type of defense that we are going to be throwing at them was Ohio State, and you see how that game turned out..<div>
</div><div>Bonus points, if we do kill Michigan, is Rich Rod gone?</div>

 

[RyanB]

I am gonna have to go ahead and say buy on this one just because of our defensive strength and Michigan's lack of defense. The only other team in the Big 10 with the type of defense that we are going to be throwing at them was Ohio State, and you see how that game turned out..<div>
</div><div>Bonus points, if we do kill Michigan, is Rich Rod gone?</div>

 

[drt7891]

Mullen relies too much on defense, especially down the stretch. Unless our defense stops them on every drive, and we run up and down the field on offense, we win by 7-10. Call me a pessimist if you want... <div>
</div><div>EDIT: IF we kill them, I think Rich is out. </div>

 

[Tulsa Dawg]

Either a thrashing, or gonna be down to the wire. Nothing in between. It depends on which Meechigan team shows up.

 

[LTblows]

whether Michigan's favorite coaching prospects have or have not already signed up for new jobs, i.e. Miami or Florida.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

Some scandal will come up and RR will be shown the door. What I can't believe is that there seem to be more people who, if Mullen leaves, would take Rich Rod over Mike Leach. Or maybe it's just who is being vocal about it.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

...In bowls since 1998, Michigan is 5-1 against SEC teams.


If you go back further in history, it doesn't get any better.


History is not on Miss. State's side in this matchup.

 

[seshomoru]

If everything was determined by past results, there would really be no point in being an MSU fan unless you were a masochist.

 

[patdog]

1. This Michigan team has absolutely nothing in common with those other 6 Michigan teams except the uniform.

2. Almost all (if not all) of those bowls were bowls where the SEC was sending a team much lower in its pecking order than the Big 10 was. Which was then exaggerated by the fact the SEC had 2 teams in the BCS to the Big 10's 1. So you wound up with a lot of situations where you had a Big 10 #2 playing against an SEC #5. In this bowl, the teams are much more equal in their respective conferences.

 

[Coach34]

he would score 65 so we could average 30 ppg this season

 

[slickdawg]

...In bowls since 1998, Michigan is 5-1 against SEC teams.


If you go back further in history, it doesn't get any better.


History is not on Miss. State's side in this matchup.

Michigan assraped Ole Miss about 20 years ago in the Gator bowl. I remember watching, it was men against boys. I think Michigan won 35-3

With Matt Balis, I don't see this happening, we are bigger and stronger than ever before. Jesus, look at Josh Boyd & Fletch Cox, those guys are freaking HUGE, and extremely athletic. Chris White & KJ too.

We will probably break out the passing game even more with more time to work on it now. More screens to LaDarius, good use of Arceto and Chris Smith. Then again, we may just give them a healthy dose of Vick Ballard, much like the Florida game.

If Bumphis and Marcus Green were healthy and playing, we probably do blow them out.

 

[Bondogge]

Teams we beat by 14:<div>
</div><div>-Houston</div><div>-Alcorn State</div><div>-Memphrica</div><div>
</div><div>
</div><div>I honestly do not believe that Michigan is just as bad as any of these teams. IF, we win, it will be close. Florida close.</div>

 

[Goat Holder II]

nm

 

[Temple of the Dawg]

Georgia owns us in football and so does UF, especially in the swamp. We have no chance against Michigan (whom we have never played) because they own the SEC in bowl games.

Genius logic on your part...pure genius.

 

[Mr Meoff]

Are you kidding me? Expecting a blowout is just too inviting to the Indian spirits for my liking. Same reason I never bet on the Dogs. I might as well set those Benjies on fire.

But the real reason is that I can count on 1 hand how many times we've blown teams out...ever... Much less a bowl-caliber team with an explosive offensive player like Robinson. I like Dan, and I like our team, but I'll be very happy with a 1-point victory on New Years Day. Any other expectation goes against my 35+ year history of being a State fan.

I would love to be pleasantly surprised.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

...if you don't like the fact Michigan has demonstrably *****-slapped SEC teams in bowl games throughout the years, don't get pissed at me.

I'm just providing you the facts. If the facts piss you off, call up a local sports talk show & whine to Morning Zoo Barney about it.

 

[Temple of the Dawg]

UGA had not lost to MState since 1974. That is 36 years if you are counting.

UF had not lost to MState in the Swamp since 1965. That is 45 years if you are counting.

Please tell me how the historical record of Michigan against SEC teams in bowl games has any bearing on this matchup. It doesn't piss me off or really even bother me in the least. I was just pointing out the obvious fallacy of your logic. If that pisses you off, don't blame me. You only have yourself to be pissed at.

*Just for the record, Michigan only "bitchslapped" one SEC team in that time span which was the 98 victory over Ark. Every other win was a one score game. I also just noticed that you conveniently started at 98 to slightly bolster your argument since Bama beat Michigan in a bowl game just two years before in 96.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

... I am saying that I don't think Miss. State will kill Michigan by 14 or more because Michigan's historical dominance of SEC teams does not point to that happening.

 

[patdog]

You still haven't giveneven onereason why those games would correlate with this one. I've pointed out the veryreal differences previously and you obviously have no response.

 

[Temple of the Dawg]

Please, please, please try to understand that Michigan's historical dominance of the SEC has no bearing whatsoever on the outcome of this game. After all, history clearly was against us beating UGA, but we did it and kicked their *** in the process. That game should have been a 3 score victory. History said we should not have beaten UF in the Swamp, but we did.

I'm not saying that we will beat Michigan by 14+. I think it could happen, but I feel more like it will be a 7 to 10 point win for MState. I do know for a fact that neither our history of college football ineptitude, nor Michigan's history of college football greatness, nor Michigan's bowl record over SEC teams will play any factor in this game. The current state of Michigan football bears no resemblance to basically any historical Michigan team.

 

[Goat Holder II]

I'm not saying that we will beat Michigan by 14+. I think it could happen, but I feel more like it will be a 7 to 10 point win for MState.

Why again are you arguing? His logic for saying so may have a SMALL amount of validity. I personally would have used the data someone else did...of how we've only beaten Houston, Memphis and Alcorn by 14 or more.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

he would score 65 so we could average 30 ppg this season

Baaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!

 

[Temple of the Dawg]

Why again are you arguing? His logic for saying so may have a SMALL amount of validity. I personally would have used the data someone else did...of how we've only beaten Houston, Memphis and Alcorn by 14 or more.

His position that Michigan's bowl record against SEC teams has no logical validity as to why MState will or will not win by 14. The point that we have only beaten Memphis, Alcorn & Houston by over 14 is a logical basis to sell on. It is based on this current team and how they have performed this season. Ronny's argument that Michigan is 5-1 against SEC teams in past bowls, the most recent being from the 2007 season, has no basis.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

...I am merely pointing out that I do not think Miss. State will kill Michigan by 14 because Michigan's historical dominance of SEC teams in bowl games does not point to that happening. That was the original question asked, so I used historical bowl data to formulate an answer.


If you think Miss. State is so badass they are going to beat this weak sister Michigan team by 14, then go on record & make that prediction.


In the meantime, stop stirring the pot by trying to force me into defending arguments I am not even making.

 

[Goat Holder II]

due to Michigan typically having top level talent and size, depth, swagger, etc. But this year, since their team is so revamped with a totally different look, and their coach is about 95% getting canned 10 minutes after the game, yeah I agree Ronny is reaching here.

Only point I was making was that Ronny's argument was just a nugget to put ona scale of why we wouldn't win by 14. Certainly not the deciding factor or anything near it.

 

[SLUdog]

If we play well, we will win by 7 at the end. We may get a lead but I think 7 is about right. Hell, we squeaked past UK and UAB at home. Then we got up on OM 31-9 and couldn't beat them down.

 

[TaleofTwoDogs]

*Random ******* Theory. If Robinson is off the RAT will come out.

 

[anon1751035439]

That's true in sports as much as it in investments. I can't believe the stance you've decided to take in this thread.

 

[Mjoelner]

Remember we didn't have to face A.J. Green, Keenum or Cobb this year. We also faced Newton before Auburn knew how to use him.

If Robinson plays the whole game, I say that we'll be lucky to win.

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[RyanB]

I am just thinking we might beat them down by 14 or more depends on the offensive game plan. If we plan on running the ball a-la Florida game style and have 2x the time of ball possession they have, then I think we wind up winning something like 31-14...

Now granted, Michigan can be pretty explosive on offense, but they look like a very Auburn-ish team the way they like to use their power QB.. Mississippi State limited Cam better than any team this season bar none. If we can have that same kind of lock down D on a team like Michigan, I really think we beat them by 14 to 17....

But any-who, at least ESPN is giving us props, predicting that we will win the game, and naming this game as the number 1 non BCS game to watch this bowl season....

 

[RougeDawg]

You cannot honestly think the 2010 version of Michigan football even compares to the teams you are referencing in your chronological time-line of Michigan vs SEC bowl games. And likewise, the 2010 version of Mississippi State football hardly compares to any, but a handful of previous Bulldog teams that have exceeded expectations. So to use historic trends to predict a match-up between two teams who hardly resemble any of their previous teams from seasons past, is pretty ridiculous.

A response more along the lines of "When we have gotten big leads this season, we turn to the running game, eat up the clock, and play ball security. This has allowed teams to close the scoring margin late in games" would have been more credible.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

<div>You mean Randall Cobb, right?</div>We almost lost to Kentucky because he had an amazing game against us...

 

[lariverdog]

straight up. Ex brother in law called to rag me. He is up there in the cold, frozen land. He says I owe this to him since I river flushed him in Biloxi last year and took a $100 off of him.

I like my chances.