Buy or Sell....

[dawgstudent]

Tiger Wood's is on the Juice.

http://www.golf.com/golf/.../0,28136,1985630,00.html

 

[dawgstudent]

Tiger Wood's is on the Juice.

http://www.golf.com/golf/.../0,28136,1985630,00.html

 

[Jake Wimberly]

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[Center Z]

I think all pro athletes have used some sort of illegal **** at some point.

And at the end of that article, where they ask who the slowest player is, I'm surprised nobody said Jim Furyk. His **** is painful to watch.

 

[FlabLoser]

Probably for recovery. He's in great shape and has good muscle development. Most folks would have to work real hard to look like that, but its definitely attainable drug-free. Especially if you've got the genetics for it. And let's face it - the genetics for that are pretty common with his father's race.

 

[Rebels7]

It's the Barry Bonds/common sense test. Just look at the guy. Then look at a picture of him from a few years ago. This isn't rocket science.

And it's pointless to me. Does it help his short game? His putting? Par 3's?

 

[PBRME]

I thought he was linked to a doctor peddling HGH a couple of years ago.

 

[JimC1097]

Obviously runs in the family

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[Mr Meoff]

Strength for pure length? There are guys out there who hit it farther. Faster recovery from injuries? Maybe, but there are hundreds of perfectly healthy guys on tour.

So much of Tiger's greatness is mental toughness and focus (clutch putting, or hitting the perfect shot when he's under the most pressure), and I'm not sure 'roids or HGH help that. I would even guess they would make you more prone to make mistakes.

Not that I know **** about it. I've never taken an illegal drug in my life.

/Pot is legal now, right?

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

which is probably just as useful as hgh for recovery and legal. He also led the charge for testing on the PGA.

 

[seshomoru]

Strength for pure length? There are guys out there who hit it farther. Faster recovery from injuries? Maybe, but there are hundreds of perfectly healthy guys on tour.

<span style="font-weight: bold;">So much of Tiger's greatness is mental toughness and focus (clutch putting, or hitting the perfect shot when he's under the most pressure), and I'm not sure 'roids or HGH help that. I would even guess they would make you more prone to make mistakes</span>.

Not that I know **** about it. I've never taken an illegal drug in my life.

/Pot is legal now, right?

There was an article a few years back about an amateur cyclist, Cat 2 I think, who decided to take stuff and document it's effects. He said while on HGH his eye sight improved so much he didn't need contacts anymore. Even his basic body coordination got better along with his ability to concentrate. Also, he was riding something like 100-150 miles a day and waking up every morning without any fatigue whatsoever. HGH would be the perfect golf drug.

He did a cycle of steroids as well and said he felt like every day he just got ridiculously stronger, but he stopped short of a full cycle because he was starting to get freaked out.

 

[Mr Meoff]

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[Rebels7]

Maybe it gives you a bigger dick and helps you to solve complicated math problems. And it cures leukemia.

 

[FlabLoser]

....dead people. Its only available in one place - the human body. In some lobe behind the brain I think. Nobody donates it unless they're dead.

 

[Agentdog]

Just look at the guy. Then look at a picture of him from a few years ago. This isn't rocket science.

Oh no! John Travolta is on roids!!!!

 

[Rebels7]

Totally the same thing.

 

[Agentdog]

My point being you can not just look at the size of someone as a teenager, then as a fully grown man, and come to the conclusion they have done roids. All men get broader as they age. Then when you take into consideration that professional athletes have the time to workout. As well as, professional trainers to help with the workouts and eating right. Then it becomes very possible that someone like Bonds and Eldrick could have legitimately gained their muscle mass.

Now Bonds, I am sure did steroids because of the culture in baseball. Not because his head and neck are bigger at 40 as compared to 20. I don't think Eldrick is on roids. Eldrick is bigger for all the reasons mentioned above......and because he isn't 18 anymore.

 

[Rebels7]

I;m not talking about when he was a teenager. I'm talking about when he was an adult, late 20's. The only difference between Tiger and Barry Bonds is Tiger's head appears to have remained roughly the same size.

The guy looks like he could play linebacker. At least for a C-USA team. And he did it damn near overnight. If he did it naturally, then good for him. But it generally isn't possible for your body to change that quickly, that drastically at his age. Your body doesn't naturally produce the same hormones it does at 30 that it does at 18, I don't care how much andro you take. It's called science.

 

[RT23]

It could be that he was not on a weight program when he first hit the tour. Many golfers were not on weight programs even just 10 years ago. In fact, my high school golf coach hated us lifting during season. The guy is bigger than he was 12 years ago, I would imagine most people on any decent program could do that. Besides, he is not a He-Man of any sort, he just looks to be in shape.

Hewas actuallylonger off the tee during his first few years on tour, and took a much more agressive swing at the ball.

Im not saying he is or he isnt, but there is not hardly enough evidence that would suggest he was taking anything.

 

[Rebels7]

I was just stating an opinion. What convinced me is the speed at which he did it.

Tiger's competitiveness is well documented. That's another factor for me. I wouldn't put it past him to try anything that he thought would give himself an advantage.

 

[RT23]

I think most of his change took place in his mid 20s, which is not at all unheard of for a professional athlete. I also think that alot of this came about the time the golf apparal started changing. He is not wearing those baggy *** shirts all the time either, which will make someone look bigger.

But no, he doesnt look like a linebacker at all.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

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[Rebels7]

Arms

And of course he works out. I'm not saying he doesn't. But the "apparel" argument is weak.

 

[SpongeBob58]

The head getting larger usually only happens with insane amounts of hgh. Steroids don't do anything with the head.

 

[Rebels7]

It's evidence. "A brick is not a wall" as my professors used to say.

 

[RT23]

He has certainly gotten bigger over the years, but that picture is totally different than the previous ones.

Its like the before and after pictures in the weight loss commercials. Before pic is slumped over, no expression, and homely. The after pic, standing erect, smiling and somehow got a dark tan.

And the apparel argument does have teeth. Baggy shirts with sleeves that hang past your elbows will always make you look smaller than a custom fit shirt with sleeves that actually stop short of the elbow. The argument I am making here is that he didnt change over night. He looks gradually bigger in all of the pics leading up to that one. And we cant judge what he lokos like in some of those pics because he is wearing an XXL shirt (See pic with Jack).