Buy/Sell: Lose to Florida and NIT here we come.

[Hanmudog]

Buy in Costco sized bulk. There is no way we make the NCAAs unless we get out crap together starting now. I have never in my life been this frustrated with an MSU basketball team. I don't think Stansbury has done a good job this season at all (in fact he has done a crappy job) however our players are MORONS. I learned stuff in junior high that these guys still have no idea about like maybe fouling when the shot clock is off and you are behind in a game. Dee has got to get his head straight. His play is almost single handedly the reason we have dropped 3 of 4.
You can already see how this season is going to play out: Lose a heartbreaker to UK, Downey scores 40 and we lose to SC, lose at Auburn after they shoot 60% from three, and probably drop a close one to Ole Miss in Starkville to another team that probably won't make the tourney.

 

[Hanmudog]

Buy in Costco sized bulk. There is no way we make the NCAAs unless we get out crap together starting now. I have never in my life been this frustrated with an MSU basketball team. I don't think Stansbury has done a good job this season at all (in fact he has done a crappy job) however our players are MORONS. I learned stuff in junior high that these guys still have no idea about like maybe fouling when the shot clock is off and you are behind in a game. Dee has got to get his head straight. His play is almost single handedly the reason we have dropped 3 of 4.
You can already see how this season is going to play out: Lose a heartbreaker to UK, Downey scores 40 and we lose to SC, lose at Auburn after they shoot 60% from three, and probably drop a close one to Ole Miss in Starkville to another team that probably won't make the tourney.

 

[BriantheDawg]

or win out. Our non conference losses are going to bite us in the *** and to be honest, we're just not that good. If Dee Bost can't get his head out of his ***, we will be lucky to finish above .500 in SEC play. What a disappointing season.

 

[Coach34]

I think our NIT appearance will be sealed by losses to SC, Kentucky, and @Auburn...have a chance to beat Tennessee, but that one will be close.

Bost was 4-23 in SEC shooting 3's coming into the game- so what does he do? 12 of his 14 shots last night were 3's. Thats coaching, or lack thereof. There should have been alot of work in practice on getting better shots inside the arc. And it should have been stressed thats what we want to do. I've never seen a team struggling from 3 like we are decide to come out and shoot even more of them...its mind-blowing this is allowed.

 

[topdawg.sixpack]

If we beat UK, we will sneak in if we get to the 9-7/10-6 mark, but that is very unlikely. However, somebody on here said, we can lose all the games we play, or we could win the rest of the games.

 

[hullabaloodog]

We really need to go 4-1 over our next 5. That will give us a couple quality wins, and puts us back in the tournament picture. I think we beat Auburn and LSU, and we really need to beat Florida and Ole Miss. If we can beat Kentucky @ home, then we can afford to drop one @ Florida. Honestly, I can see us just as easily going 2-3 over that stretch.

 

[00Dawg]

The key stretch is the remaining home schedule, plus games at LSU and Auburn. You can afford one slip up at home, grab those two, and get in at 10-6.

Note that my perception is colored b/c my preseason predictions are hitting at a really good clip, and I had us at 4-4 after this Saturday. At the moment, though, I expect us to win.

 

[Hanmudog]

I don't think asof right now we are in the NCAA tournament. Just beating the teams we should from here on out probably won't be enough. The games we probably won't be favored in are UK, @SC , and maybe against UT.
On a side note, OM better start beating some good teams too. as of now they have one top 50 win.

 

[dickiedawg]

That's assuming one of the West teams doesn't take off and win the SECT a la MSU 2009.<div>
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[RonnyAtmosphere]

...This team hasn't even played Auburn yet, has another game left with LSU, has two home games left with Ole Miss & Alabama.

Add to that getting UK & UT at home.

In other words, I realize everybody is ready to go hide in the bunker because the sky is falling, but this team hasn't even hit the easy part of the schedule yet.

Then there is the SECT, which nobody ever adds into the equation.

But what do I know? I love Croom & rue the day he was fired.

 

[Hanmudog]

...This team hasn't even played Auburn yet, has another game left with LSU, has two home games left with Ole Miss & Alabama.

Add to that getting UK & UT at home.

In other words, I realize everybody is ready to go hide in the bunker because the sky is falling, but this team hasn't even hit the easy part of the schedule yet.

Then there is the SECT, which nobody ever adds into the equation.

But what do I know? I love Croom & rue the day he was fired.

I am as optimistic as anyone on here and get called a "sheep" about 3 times a day but winning twice against Auburn, beating LSU, Alabama, and maybe Ole Miss is not going to get us into the NCAAs unless we win a couple in Nashville against some decent SEC teams. Our RPI is too low right now and we have got to beat some more top 50 teams to impress the committee. Can we do it? Absolutely. Will we? I have no reason for optimism based on what we have seen from this team so far.

 

[OMlawdog]

OM has the highest RPI of 39, and Bama, Upig, AU and LSU are 95, 115, 133, and 209 respectively.

MSU is at 63 right now, and the problem for both OM and MSU is that playing these 4 teams twice will not help them get in the tournament.

Uk is 3, Vandy is 10, and UT is 23, so to be certain of an at large bid OM needs to beat Vandy, and MSU needs to grab a win against UK or UT.

I really don't think 10-6 in the SEC West gets you to the tourney this year without 2 wins in the SEC tourney.

Should be interesting though.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

We're just trying to win a game.

Sell. Even if we beat Florida we have a good possibility of tanking later.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

OM has the highest RPI of 39, and Bama, Upig, AU and LSU are 95, 115, 133, and 209 respectively.

MSU is at 63 right now, and the problem for both OM and MSU is that playing these 4 teams twice will not help them get in the tournament.

Uk is 3, Vandy is 10, and UT is 23, so to be certain of an at large bid OM needs to beat Vandy, and MSU needs to grab a win against UK or UT.

I really don't think 10-6 in the SEC West gets you to the tourney this year without 2 wins in the SEC tourney.

Should be interesting though.

MSU plays both UK & UT @ home.

If MSU beats one of those teams & goes 10-6, MSU is, at worse, a bubble team.

If MSU beats both UK & UT with a 10-6 record, MSU is in the tournament.

If MSU goes 10-6 with losses to both UK & UT, then MSU will probably need to win some games in the SECT to get in.

In other words, as far as the remainder of this season goes, just about everything hinges on the UK & UT games (provided MSU doesn't melt down against the lesser teams).

None of this even factoring in a possible win @Florida Saturday.

 

[patdog]

because neither is likely to get 10 SEC wins. The question is, will 8 or 9 SEC wins be enough. The answer is, probably enough for Mississippi, but probably not enough for MSU.

 

[DowntownDawg]

And I will add that if this team doesn't make the NCAA tournament, it would be the worst coaching job that Stansbury has ever done and would be a huge indicator that C34 is right on the money.

Only time will tell. I am pulling for us. I actually think we could get a win Saturday and get on a roll.

 

[Coach34]

Teams in the ACC, A-10, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12 having a chance to win 10 games in conference will all be in the NCAA Tourney- no doubt.

But not the SEC. It doesnt guarantee ****. </p>

 

[fieldman]

I think if we were like most Big East and ACC teams and had one or two good non-conference wins, then 10 SEC wins would lock us into the tourney.

Cue people saying Old Dominion and UCLA are good non-conference wins.

 

[Hanmudog]

I think if we were like most Big East and ACC teams and had one or two good non-conference wins, then 10 SEC wins would lock us into the tourney.

Cue people saying Old Dominion and UCLA are good non-conference wins.

ODU was a good non conference win. They are 41 in the RPI and 18-6 overall. Incidently, we have one more RPI top 50 win than Ole Miss has in spite of them having a better total RPI.

 

[OMlawdog]

Just awesome.

I said MSU needs to grab a win against UK or UT, and you basically agree saying one win puts MSU on the bubble at 10-6 and two wins puts them in the tourney.

What you don't seem to address is that playing LSU twice and AU twice is a bad thing even if MSU goes 4-0 which I expect MSU will.

MSU needs OM to keep winning because if MSU beats OM twice this year, they could be two of the best wins on MSU's tourney resume. Unfortunately I don't see us winning more than 9 SEC games.

The RPI has the SEC as the 4th best conference in the country right now, so at least the conference as a whole is better than year's past. Thank you Kentucky.

 

[Fdawg.sixpack]

easily gets us in...the pac 10 being a 1 bid league and the acc looking at only 3 bids opens about 10 spots that are normally taken. and if we beat OM at home the committee is gonna have a real hard time picking them over us i dont care what the hell our rpi is

 

[Coach34]

latest bracketology has 2 from the Pac-10 and 6 from the ACC- not 3....i think the ACC gets 6 in easily</p>

10-6 with no wins over Ky or Tenn could easily leave us as one of the last 4 out</p>

 

[Fdawg.sixpack]

also has us in so if thats what youre looking at what are you so worried about??...if were in now with this many win-able games in front of us im not that worried

 

[SLUdog]

to be confident of a NCAAT appearance. It's possible, but not probable at this point. We needed to sweep Bama and Ark.

 

[Hanmudog]

Let's see:
1. We have already lost to Rider, Richmond, WKU, Arkansas, and Alabama so no game is a gimme for us
2. We couldn't hit a slut in a whorehouse with the way we are shooting.
3. Bost is more F'ed in the head than Jevan Snead right now.
4. We do not know how to foul when down a point and the shot clock off.
5. Kodi only shows up every 6th game
6. Downey will score 40 on us easy as will John Wall.

That being said, sure there is a chance and there is nothing I would like to see more than us make the NCAAs in any manner possible but my confidence in this team is shot.

 

[Fdawg.sixpack]

im as frustrated as anyone trust me but i think what our fans fail to realize is that 99% of the teams around the country are going through the exact same thing right now...i live in acc country and these people are freaking bc everyone just keeps losing games that they shouldnt be. i agree with everything you just said but the fact is that with all those problems and knowing that we literally could not be playing any worse we are still currently in the field...and this year more than ever i could care less what our seed is, outside the top 5 teams in the country you can pretty muchthrow everyone in a hat... hell im just as scared of playing georgia as i would be playing duke or anyone in the acc. yes this is a frustrating season but damn people look around the country and realize that its not just us ncaa bball is mediocre all over the country this year. i see six more wins on our schedule and 10-6 and one win in the tourney easily gets us in, take a second get your head out of your *** and look at teams in other conferences, put us up against maryland for example and youll realize that the list of teams going after those at large bids just isnt that impressive

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

I said MSU needs to grab a win against UK or UT, and you basically agree saying one win puts MSU on the bubble at 10-6 and two wins puts them in the tourney.

I said if MSU doesn't lose to the lesser teams, this scenario would be in play. In other words, lose to Alabama & Auburn @ home, it's all over.

What you don't seem to address is that playing LSU twice and AU twice is a bad thing even if MSU goes 4-0 which I expect MSU will.

I don't address it because MSU has to play the schedule it has, not the schedule it wants. MSU just needs wins right now. I'll leave it to messageboard intellectuals like yourself & coach34 to do all the complicated math.

MSU needs OM to keep winning because if MSU beats OM twice this year, they could be two of the best wins on MSU's tourney resume. Unfortunately I don't see us winning more than 9 SEC games.

If MSU beats OM twice this year, the tournament committee will not give a ****. I think in your ownconvoluted way you are agreeing with me on this.

The RPI has the SEC as the 4th best conference in the country right now, so at least the conference as a whole is better than year's past. Thank you Kentucky.

Nothing MSU can do about conference RPI. If MSU beats UKit will so huge, it will take ameltdown of biblical porportions to keep MSUout of the tournament.