Buy/Sell: Mullen "gets it done" this year

DerHntr

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Buy. We find a way to get to six. I think it could be different than most expect though. My gut tells me we get a quality upset but we also lose one we aren't supposed to lose.
 

57stratdawg

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Buy. We find a way to get to six. I think it could be different than most expect though. My gut tells me we get a quality upset but we also lose one we aren't supposed to lose.

I could see that. Beat LSU, lose to Troy.
 

Son of 34

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We have 3 easy wins: Troy, Bgsu, and Alcorn (I hate putting Troy in this group because they are giant killers; but for arguments sake, I'll put them in here).

With that being said, we have to win 3 out of bama, lsu, tsun, ok state, USC, and UK.

+aub, ark

I only see us beating 2 (uk and lsu).

Sell.
 
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missouridawg

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We have 3 easy wins: Troy, Bgsu, and Alcorn (I hate putting Troy in this group because they are giant killers; but for arguments sake, I'll put them in here).

With that being said, we have to win 3 out of bama, lsu, tsun, ok state, USC, and UK.

I only see us beating 2 (uk and lsu).

Sell.

You left out Auburn and Arkansas. Both teams we're no worse than a coin flip against this year.

If our defense is as legit as it sounds, we might win 7. I'm predicting 6, however. Alcorn, BGSU, Troy, UK, ARK, and OM.

Why people are putting LSU in the win column and OM in the loss column so defiantly is mind-numbingly painful to witness. You people aren't serious, are you?
 

57stratdawg

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I haven't seen anyone predicting LSU a win or OM a loss, so I'm not sure where you got that, but we competed better against LSU than OM last year.
 

johnson86-1

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We have 3 easy wins: Troy, Bgsu, and Alcorn (I hate putting Troy in this group because they are giant killers; but for arguments sake, I'll put them in here).

With that being said, we have to win 3 out of bama, lsu, tsun, ok state, USC, and UK.

I only see us beating 2 (uk and lsu).

Sell.

I would think UK belongs with Troy and BGSU. And you left out Auburn and Arkansas, which I think are probably our two next most likely wins, unless it's Ole Miss. That's 7 very winnable games. If we play like last year, we could end up with 3 or 4 wins. But it looks like it looks like WR and CB are the only two groups where we could end up backsliding. If a lot of our problem last year was bad defensive coaching, we may get as much or more out of our CB's even with a talent dropoff. And I hope to goodness we get more out of every other defensive group.

If Wilson was hte problem and Collins is good, then really all we need is for our wide receivers to be as good as last year (which outside of Bumphis, is not asking for much). If that happens, we should be favored in 7 games. But I would say Auburn, UM, Troy, and BGSU are all going to be good enough to beat us if we have a bad day, so there's not much margin for error.
 

Son of 34

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You left out Auburn and Arkansas. Both teams we're no worse than a coin flip against this year.

If our defense is as legit as it sounds, we might win 7. I'm predicting 6, however. Alcorn, BGSU, Troy, UK, ARK, and OM.

Why people are putting LSU in the win column and OM in the loss column so defiantly is mind-numbingly painful to witness. You people aren't serious, are you?

I'm not going to say I think tsun is a more well rounded team than lsu, but I think we match up better against lsu's offense. Lsu might only put up 10 points against us this year, while u of m could drop 40+.

Bottom line is, we are overdue for a win against lsu. It's been what, 14 years since we've won a single football game against them? Then on the other hand, we've been running our mouths off in the form of a "our state" marketing campaign to piss off tsun. Not only does beating lsu and losing to tsun look good on paper, it makes sense.
 

patdog

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May 28, 2007
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That's a buy. If we don't win 6 this fall, it'll be because we win 7. We've got a tough schedule, but we've got a lot of experience coming back.
 
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This is funny-- especially the Kentucky one. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...s-analysis-and-out-there-assessments-for-2013 UMs biggest problm is going to be living up to expectations. Even with a team better than last year's they could lose 6-7 games. Most prognosticators have them winning 8+. That is going to be hard to do.

After going undefeated for most of the season, everyone had their eyes wide open with us. This year we get to be the "trap"" game.
 

RebChuck

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Probable buy but what happens if he doesn't win at least 6? what result is not good enough in year 5?
 

Heawww

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4-8 is not acceptable in my opinion. I could understand 5-7 because sometimes things do go wrong.
 

DawgatAuburn

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We have 3 easy wins: Troy, Bgsu, and Alcorn

I am still cautious about BGSU. Yes, they are a MAC team, but they are a good MAC team. We've not shown much ability to easily dispose of anyone above a SWAC team in the last couple of years. Troy, South Alabama, UAB, La Tech....all have given us fits. We may beat BGSU but right now it's far from an easy win.
 

NCDawg.sixpack

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I'm not going to say I think tsun is a more well rounded team than lsu, but I think we match up better against lsu's offense. Lsu might only put up 10 points against us this year, while u of m could drop 40+.

Bottom line is, we are overdue for a win against lsu. It's been what, 14 years since we've won a single football game against them? Then on the other hand, we've been running our mouths off in the form of a "our state" marketing campaign to piss off tsun. Not only does beating lsu and losing to tsun look good on paper, it makes sense.

LSU has beaten us 20 out of the last 21 games, and the game we won was very controversial. I can see no more that 5 wins this year, but hope I'm wrong. We lost out on too many good recruits to be in the top tier of the SEC in my opinion.
 

121Josey

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6-6. Buy. Get it done. "On lay-away". Offensive overhaul is needed in the off-season.
 

57stratdawg

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Look at the two posts above mine. Both have an LSU win and one has an OM loss.

Point taken. Still wouldn't call that a common theme amongst the fan base though. I think this is our best chance at knocking off LSU. We'll have to see with OM.
 

johnson86-1

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Probable buy but what happens if he doesn't win at least 6? what result is not good enough in year 5?

Not going bowling is 'unacceptable.' If we don't go bowling, that will probably mean some combination of the following: (1) we did not h ave a receiver step up, (2) our o-line while capable at pass protection, couldn't establish the run against teams like UK, Troy, BGSU, Ark, Aub, and UM; (3) we didn't fix our lack of pass rush; (4) we didn't find an adequate replacement for both Banks and Slay; (5) injuries where we have no depth.

Really, none of these should be issues in year 5. That said, he's not getting fired this year unless there is a Chizik/Nutt like collapse. Also, he's still paying for his early recruiting problems, so being bad this year doesn't mean it's hopeless. Especially since there may not be much daylight between a team that will beat Troy, BGSU, Ark, Auburn, and UM, and a team that will lose to three of them. A key injury or even Redmond's suspension could be the difference between seven wins and four, so we could be not very far off even if we end up having a terrible season.

But if he doesn't go bowling this year, I'd say not going bowling next year will probably get him fired. By that time, any problems are not a result of his early learning curve in recruiting, and there's no obvious reason why they would get better.
 

was21

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It will be tough but he will get it done. After all, that's all we need. As long as we qualify for a bowl, that's all we need (for now)..and in the immediate future...and in the intermediate future...and in the long time future. Laugh and call it settling for mediocrity, and then look at our football history, and then sober up. It's the SEC, it's the toughest division in the SEC, and it's getting tougher. Go to the games, send money, and enjoy life.
 

was21

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A damn "like" button is needed, but a loss to Bowling Green is more likely than Troy
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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LSU has beaten us 20 out of the last 21 games, and the game we won was very controversial. I can see no more that 5 wins this year, but hope I'm wrong. We lost out on too many good recruits to be in the top tier of the SEC in my opinion.

They get us sandwiched between Georgia and Florida at our place.

I kinda like our chances.
 

Sutterkane

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Sell. We weren't very good last year and we haven't added anything to make me think we'll be any better.
 
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I'm not going to say I think tsun is a more well rounded team than lsu, but I think we match up better against lsu's offense. Lsu might only put up 10 points against us this year, while u of m could drop 40+...

Wow. If i'm understanding your point correctly, you think LSU is the better overall team, but OM's offense could hang 4x as many points on us. Is that correct? Or does your definition of well rounded mean something different?

Lay off that cool-aid they're serving in Oxford.
 
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+1 Buy

Wow. If i'm understanding your point correctly, you think LSU is the better overall team, but OM's offense could hang 4x as many points on us. Is that correct? Or does your definition of well rounded mean something different?

Lay off that cool-aid they're serving in Oxford.


The trend of getting beat by LSU will continue this year. We will beat The Bears at home this year. Period. TSUN has a better year than expected last year, a good recruiting class, and suddenly some of you act like the delusional fan base that they are. Are the better? Yes. Will they put out a quality team this year? Yes. However, they are not about to compete for the Western Divisional title. Again, we WILL beat them at home this year.
 

LandArchDawg

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I think the idea behind "getting it done" is going to a bowl for the 4th consecutive year, which I believe has never happened in our history.
 

Herod16

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Im scared that this is going to be a 5-7 season, so I will be completely satisfied with a 6-6 season. Perkins rushes for 1,100+ this season. BUY!
 

paindonthurt_

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Define Unacceptable?

Barring 2 and 10 or worse he isn't getting fired nor should he. We've been to 3 bowl games in a row. 3. IN. A. ROW.

Regardless we'll win 5 games though. Likely will win 6 and could likely win 7. 8 isn't out of the question, but we'd need some luck to do that.
 

57stratdawg

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Going to a bowl is getting it done. 4 straight bowl games. Let that sink in.

I think a lot of coaches can take us to bowl games these days. We've been to 10 bowl games in 22 years, and that's with arguably one of the worst coaches in SEC history mixed in.
 

Son_of_34

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Why in the 17 do you people think we will lose to Auburn and Arkansas?

Both are in a rebuilding year and both will have new starting QBs, I see those being 2 very easy wins for us.

Out of UK, ARK, and AU...I would worry about UK the most due to the fact that, that freshman QB from last year was about to shred us apart before he left with an injury.
 

Heawww

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I agree. People are very contradictory about this. They say we are a good team, but our 'schedule' will do us in. Really? If we're a good team we can beat Auburn and Arkansas at their places in this particular year.

People just go with the herd, I guess.