Buy-Sell on Veazey...

[Coach34]

The "impossible situation myth" would be a great story for him to write showing how Bammer, Mississippi, and Kentucky all had more harsh sanctions than we did, yet rebuilt their programs quicker and started winning.

I'm saying buy...comparing the jobs that Tooberville and Brooks did to where Croom stands would really shed some light on how bad a job he has done

 

[biguglyjoe]

It would be a great story but I don't think he would touch it with a ten foot pole.

 

[TnDawg76]

Most people are stupid. They will believe anything anyone tells them as long as they tell them enough. For five years, all we have heard is how bad the program was that Croom inherited. Words like "train wreck," "shambles," and even "verge of the death penalty" were thrown around. That is all a bunch of bull. The infractions were minor and so was the penalty. The talent pool that Croom inherited was pretty nice as well.

If you hear the sheep over on Swan Lake or the announcers on ESPN, the situation when Croom got here was like SMU circa 1988, and that just isn't the truth.

 

[MSUCostanza]

It's a good angle. The question is would he risk his access by writing it, because that sort of piece would come at a cost.

 

[DerHntr]

the fact that he has stats to go by could actually get him to print something like this.

now as for the character myth, i don't think he will do it because there is a lot of grey area that the sheep can point to.

 

[jcblough]

I think just from a journalistic approach it would be a good piece to write and would be a good contrast to what is read mostly about MSU. I think the more support we throw on his blog towards canning Croom, the more likely we are to see an article like this.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

...Rick Cleveland would never allow Veazey to travel down that journalistic road.

RC will hold Veazey to writing "be patient" articles, and "poor school/unreasonable expectations" pieces.

If you want Veazey to write an article being directly critical of Croom, then you are asking Veazey to wander too far off the reservation.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

than what happened to you. It actually said that the penalties SMU got would have been better than your probation and having the NCAA sniffing around for a few years. So they could easily explain that somehow, your punishment was worse than all of those

 

[Coach34]

why should there be a cost at telling facts? Hampton came out and wrote that changes had to be made...

I think a good article on comparing probation SEC teams would be perfect and open quite a few eyes...hell, let Hampton do it if Veazey cant stand the heat

 

[OMlawdog]

I think a better article would be addressing the clear contradictions he has made just this season.

Playcalling - One week it is him/Next week it is Woody

Fault - One week he won't throw players under the bus/Next day he is telling people that players recruited weren't very good

Talent - pre-season says we have enough talent to compete for SEC/Now just not talented enough

Carroll - He is our QB Im sticking with him/Next game he gets pulled

More than anything that would frustrate me if I was a MSU fan. Its stuff he never gets called on and should.

The very next follow up question after he says that Woody calls the plays, should have been, "Coach you just told us two weeks ago that you ran the offense and that you are the offensive coordinator, so which one is it?"

 

[Maroon Eagle]

I think that's a topic closer to the column category, which are the properties of Messrs. Cleveland & Hampton.

 

[birdZdawg]

that it would be a great story. However, I sell that he would write it. He has said on a couple of occasions that he does not write op-eds. Even with all the stats, it may be hard to write a story like that without including his opinion. </p>

 

[MSUCostanza]

I agree with you. However, the reality is that the CL has never allowed its writers to take any sort of adversarial position with the college coaches, unless it is something blatant and obvious and unrelated to on the field issues. With that reality in mind, I feel like Veasey might get cut off if he were to basically blast Croom as incompetent. "Big city" papers don't operate this way, but the CL has always operated that way.

 

[vhdawg]

....Kyle doesn't work for Rick Cleveland.

 

[Coach34]

I think I am going to do my best to make live chat with those two next Tues and see if I can get Hampton to look into it...Shirley a good sportswriter can see how good a story this could be

 

[cps36]

The very next follow up question after he says that Woody calls the plays, should have been, "Coach you just told us two weeks ago that you ran the offense and that you are the offensive coordinator, so which one is it?"

That part about him being OC was him protecting McCorvey. Croom was tired of hearing all the criticism directed toward Woody and said basically before you blame Woody, you should blame him.

Also,

<font face="Arial" size="2">All of our head coaches that have taken us to a bowl game (there are 5 others) have stayed three or four years (mostly four) after their last bowl appearance. Just saying.</font>

 

[jcblough]

You just don't read that stuff in the CL about state schools in general. I think any article written by anyone saying "this isn't good enough" always comes when the end is inevitable and it is very light handed even then. I'd like to see the article merely for the reaction.

 

[vhdawg]

....because I didn't reply to you.

 

[grayghost.sixpack]

If LT would have simply done what other competent AD's do we would not be in this mess. All he had to do was offer scholarships and admit fault. Instead his ego and pride have 17'd us with all these years of misery.

 

[jcblough]

sorry about that, not used to how the replies on this board work.