Buy/Sell - Spurrier doesn't have it anymore
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Spurrier is a good coach, but he needs high powered athletes to run his offense. Unfortunately for him those athletes arent falling all over themselves to come to South Carilona like they were to Florida. Also his recruiting area isnt nearly as strong as it was in Florida so he has to work to get the recruits.
South Carolina has all the ingredients needed for winning...except winning (big). Maybe the gameday atmosphere is a missing ingredient? The stadium is big and all, but it is on a state fairground with all the pleasantry of the MS Fairgrounds.
Gamecock fan has to be awful dejected seeing as how even a legendary coach can't get them to the next level.
Gamecock fan has to be awful dejected seeing as how even a legendary coach can't get them to the next level.
Buy, there was a time when he could win w/ guys like Noah Brindise. His QB's weren't that talented at UF, or especially at Duke, so what he's got to work w/ now shouldn't be worse than that. He's not calling plays anymore, but that offense is just being left behind by the teams running the spread. Football evolves, either change w/ the times, or get left behind
Turning around South Carolina is much more of a task than honing the rough edges off of Florida. I also grow weary of hearing about how he turned around the Duke program, I would be an okay coach there.
Don't get me wrong, I frikkin love the Ole Ball Coach and will hate it when SEC media days goes on without him one day. I just think he gets a lot of credit for managing a program that has had tons of great athletes for years.
Don't get me wrong, I frikkin love the Ole Ball Coach and will hate it when SEC media days goes on without him one day. I just think he gets a lot of credit for managing a program that has had tons of great athletes for years.
The Florida program he took over had no resemblance at all to what it is now. They had never won an SEC title and had gone 6-5, 6-6, 7-5, and 7-5 in the previous 4 years. They were a distant third to Florida St. and Miami in their home state. Not to mention he won an ACC title at Duke. I know the ACC sucks, but winning a title at Duke has to count for something.
All that said, I'm buying that Spurrier has lost it. I've said for years that he hasn't been the same coach ever since he won that national title. You could see that his last couple of Florida teams had slipped and for all the hell Ron Zook took for the job he did there, a lot of the blame for those seasons belongs to Spurrier's recruiting.
All that said, I'm buying that Spurrier has lost it. I've said for years that he hasn't been the same coach ever since he won that national title. You could see that his last couple of Florida teams had slipped and for all the hell Ron Zook took for the job he did there, a lot of the blame for those seasons belongs to Spurrier's recruiting.
the work that Zook did in recruiting and the ton of talent that just falls in Florida's lap, that all Spurrier had to do at Florida was coach. At Carolina, he has to work the talent to get them in and then play without the depth he had at Florida.
I'm not saying the Florida years were not an achievement, I'm just saying that maybe it was over sold.
I'm not saying the Florida years were not an achievement, I'm just saying that maybe it was over sold.
Florida football from 1906 until 1989: 0 conference titles. 18 bowl games (8-10 record).
Florida football from 1990 to 2001: 6 SEC titles (and the best record in the league in 1990, but on probation). 11 bowl games (and ineligible in 1990 or it would've been 12).
Let this sink in. Until 1991, MSU had more SEC championships than Florida in football.
Spurrier made Florida into the monster it is today. He just lost the fire at some point, and the way his SC teams have performed on offense speaks to that.
Florida football from 1990 to 2001: 6 SEC titles (and the best record in the league in 1990, but on probation). 11 bowl games (and ineligible in 1990 or it would've been 12).
Let this sink in. Until 1991, MSU had more SEC championships than Florida in football.
Spurrier made Florida into the monster it is today. He just lost the fire at some point, and the way his SC teams have performed on offense speaks to that.
Florida into the monster that it is today. Spurrier helped, but it would have happened anyway in the same way that FSU and Miami quietly became powers in the late '70's and early '80's. You can probably add to that the relative success that USF is having as well.
I never said Spurrier was inept, I said that he gets more credit that he is due for being in the right place at the right time.
I never said Spurrier was inept, I said that he gets more credit that he is due for being in the right place at the right time.