Buy/Sell: The Sidney criticism is approaching "over the top".

Hanmudog

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Anyone can see that Renardo is fat, lazy,and out of shape but the fact remains that the guy has not even played the equivalent of half of a season in college. It is somewhere the other side of stupid when people call him a waste of a scholarship as if Brandon Bolen is somehow more worthy. If he does not pan out then he can park it at the end of the bench for the next couple of years but it is way too early to piss on the fire and call in the dogs on Sidney.

Renardo has a **** ton of negative quotes to use for motivation next year if he comes back and I will be rooting for him to mature and get his act together. He isn't the first fat talented freshman (technically)to disappoint in college but I'll be damned if I ever remember such harsh talk by the national media.
 

Hanmudog

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Anyone can see that Renardo is fat, lazy,and out of shape but the fact remains that the guy has not even played the equivalent of half of a season in college. It is somewhere the other side of stupid when people call him a waste of a scholarship as if Brandon Bolen is somehow more worthy. If he does not pan out then he can park it at the end of the bench for the next couple of years but it is way too early to piss on the fire and call in the dogs on Sidney.

Renardo has a **** ton of negative quotes to use for motivation next year if he comes back and I will be rooting for him to mature and get his act together. He isn't the first fat talented freshman (technically)to disappoint in college but I'll be damned if I ever remember such harsh talk by the national media.
 

jcdawgman18

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The fact that he is a solid contributor while being out of shape and not giving a crap is what blows my mind. If someone can get through to him, he'll dominate.

And I don't think he's popular enough with the rest of the guys to become a cancer. You have to be important in their eyes to lead them astray, and he's not nearly there yet.
 

stateskills

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But, you have to remember this guy has been talked about in the media for what three or four years now? The media guys don't view him as only having played half a season - they view him as a complete waste of talent who was on the take out in L.A. and somehow was granted NCAA eligibility at Mississippi State which must have cheated royally to get him. The basketball media - mostly made up of former players and coaches these days - also gets pissy when talented players don't even appear to be making an effort.

He brings a lot of the hate on himself, but I don't ever remember a college player getting blasted like this nationally before. Hopefully, it'll wake him up.
 

thunderclap

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with the fight in the stands, the twitters, showing up fat and lazy and then having 18 months to do something about it and still being fat and lazy. Can't tell if it's out of control or not because he has brought a good bit on himself. I hope he'll turn it around before next year or I don't want him back.
 

DAWG61

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Anyone can give effort. Sidney has all the size and talent in the world to be an elite player but the fat girl in 4th grade gym works harder than him. If he wants the criticism to go away all he has to do is run up and down the court as hard as he can,put his arms up on defense and get tough inside the lane on defense. Those 3 things are asked of every other basketball player in America. Why should Sidney get away with not doing them? Stansbury is enabling him.
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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he did a lot of bragging, ran a lot of smack, showed up fat, constantly gets schooled by 2 star afterthoughts & last but not least he spewed diarrhea all over his program & univeristy when he decided to conduct a street brawl in a Hawaii gymnasium.

If anything, all the Sidney critcism is under the top; not over the top.
 

medearis

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Mario Austin had that baby fat look when he was young, then he turned into a beast.
 

TXDawg.sixpack

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Sidney had 18 months to get in shape for this season. Furthermore, his lack ofeffort on the court is nothing short of pathetic. Personally, I hope he gets it turned around and has a stellar season next year. I just haven't seen anything from him that convinces me he will.

Not to mention that Stansbury certainly won't push him to excel. The best thing that could happen for Sidney is for Rick to leave.
 

RebelBruiser

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If you see a person wasting talent, it makes you sick to see it.

That's why I think Sidney gets heavy criticism.
 

ckDOG

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One part of me says that he's fair game and that he brought all of this upon himself and I shouldn't feel sorry for him. Another part of me feels that he's being pounced on harder by the national media bc he's essentially the poster child for what is wrong with college basketball. The fact that he plays for Mississippi State (another easy target in the eyes of the national media) might amplify their message. But that opinion is probably skewed by me simply being defensive since MSU looks like crap in this as well.

But either way, this could potentially be a blessing in disguise for Sidney. If he isn't getting a healty dose of reality about where he stands in the basketball world now, he never is. Hopefully this bruises his ego and motivates him to prove the naysayers wrong about him. Unfortunately, he may be just as likely to write this off to the tune of "haters gon' hate" and think it's just people dogging on him because, in his mind, he's such a phenom...
 

MrHooch

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thunderclap said:
<span style="font-weight: bold;">with the fight in the stands, the twitters, showing up fat and lazy and then having 18 months to do something about it and still being fat and lazy.</span> Can't tell if it's out of control or not because he has brought a good bit on himself. I hope he'll turn it around before next year or I don't want him back.
It's his own damn fault. He needs to stop trying to blame everybody else...
 

Tds &amp; Beer

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bash bash bash away until he changes. until then, bash some more.I have no respect forthat piece of **** until he changes and i hope the hate continues and grows from the media, unless he gets his **** together. If he would learn how to be a basketball player, he would gain fans. He's gonna realize that sooner or later and get it together because he's selfish and needs the love. Until then, the media cannot hate on him enough, unless they're making stuff up, which they aren't. He will never get it together, unless he gets a new staff in there. That's the only way.
 

rezdawg

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No matter how long he's been on campus he hasn't played THAT many games. He's been under attack (meida, NCAA...) since before he got here, anyone would be defensive. Coddled AAU does not = SEC competition. He's been thrown into the fire with a TON of attention, primarily because he has so much potential. He's only 19, 20? How ready for that kind of attention was anyone at that age? I think he has a huge upside and can be one of the best ever @ MSU.
 

jcdawgman18

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Group 1: the group who criticizes his work ethic. Totally justified, and not what I was buying on.
Group 2: the people who think he's a "waste of a scholarship". That's taking it too far. This is why I bought it.
Even only getting a glimpse of his talent, we're better than we were without him. If he puts it together, boom.
 

Hanmudog

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There is nothing wrong with criticizing Sidney for being out of shape and lazy. However, I have seen where some have called him a waste of time or a waste of a scholarship. Last I checked, we don't have McD AA's beating down our door and a fat, out of shape AA is better than an in shape Brandon Bolen type. Hell if Renardo only averages 12 pts and 8 rbs a game over his entire MSU career then that is better than most players in the SEC.
 

fishwater99

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Hanmudog said:
There is nothing wrong with criticizing Sidney for being out of shape and lazy. However, I have seen where some have called him a waste of time or a waste of a scholarship. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Last I checked, we don't have McD AA's beating down our door and a fat, out of shape AA is better than an in shape Brandon Bolen type. Hell if Renardo only averages 12 pts and 8 rbs a game over his entire MSU career then that is better than most players in the SEC.</span>
This is just crazy Hanmudog....
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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I think it applies to Stansbury as well.

One can argue that Stans has accomplished all he can at State and it's time for him to move. That's a legitimate position. But those saying things like Stans sucks has always sucked, can't coach AT ALL, makes players worse, etc. That's just horse-****. And is an extremely sheepish position to take.
 

DAWG61

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Yea he got 11 points and 8 rebounds but who gives a *%++ cause he's giving up 40 points and 25 rebounds!! There is no doubt he is skilled offensively but try to watch him on defense and you'll understand what the complaining is about. Why do you think our points allowed per game has skyrocketed since Jarvis and Stewart left!! I know it's not as easy to see as a made basket but we are allowing like 15-20 more points a game. His offense is McDonalds but his defense went out of business long ago for its stench!!!
 

mcfly.sixpack

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Sid brought all the negative attention he gets from the media and the fans on himself. I almost feel bad for him because if someone doesn't light a fire in his fat *** and get him motivated to play hard each play, no one nba or europe will take a chance at him. Then once his college eligibility is over, assuming he doesn't get kicked of the team for who knows what, he'll end up like Dontae Walker or Darren Williams selling drugs on the street because thats the easy way out. He just has no idea what physical gift has been given to him. If somehow he could grow some testicles and develop his infantile brain he could do something but I don't see it happening, he's just too big of a *****.
 

radiochild

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the guy has to change. It is embarassing to hear that he was warming up lackadaisical, shoes untied, etc... He is going to continue to do more harm than help if he doesn't change.
 

LightninInside

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Shitcan has no desire to work hard. I have no idea what would motivate him, my life experiences say that it is a lost cause. My biggest problem is that Stans by his actions is causing the other players to understandably have bad attitudes. How can you let someone on the court with absolutely no discipline is almost insane.
 

fishwater99

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MadDawg said:
<span style="font-weight: bold;">But those saying things like Stans sucks has always sucked, can't coach AT ALL, makes players worse, etc. That's just horse-****</span>.
He doesn't make players worse, they just don't develop on the offensive end of the floor. He used to be a good defensive coach, or was that Robert Kirby, makes you wonder since he is gone?
 

BoDawg.sixpack

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that was the single most embarrassing incident I can remember involving our institution and one of the most embarrassing in all of college athletics since I've been alive. We don't have any reasons to show this thug any pity.
 

Hanmudog

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The point was not that Sidney deserves criticism but whether or not some in the media are taking it a bit too far based on their expectations of Renardo.

Sidneyisn't the the first lazy freshman (technically) to get a wake up call in college but I can never recall a guy that has barely played in college getting this much **** for not being an instant superstar. The fight earned him a ton of deserved criticism but his play, while not spectacular, has not been as awful as some are acting: 13ppg 7rpg .500 FG% .750 FT%. He is clueless and lazy on defense but so are most guys straight from high school to college. Lewis did not know his *** from a hole in the ground last season on defensebut is servicable now.

The bottom line is that Renardo is still young and it is way early to give up on him. With decent coaching and someone to stay relentlessly on his *** to get in shape he could still make himself into a serious ball player.
 

DAWG61

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with his offensive skill set. He needs to average 40 points and 25 rebounds just to even out with what he's letting happen to us on defense. He lets in more water into the boat then he can throw out. Lots more water. Sidney doesn't play defense. It's completely non-exsistent. I'd play him for offensive plays only and I'd substitute him at every single deadball. I would try to never play him on defense or better yet not at all till he proves he is tough enough to play defense. I also wouldn't allow him to shoot anymore 3's. That is a luxury he definately doesn't deserve. +%$+ that fat *****. I'd rather go with 4 guards and Augustus than have to watch him embarass the word defense again.