Buy/ Sell We should fire Stansbury...
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We need to let the rest of the season play out first. Stans could very well be coaching for his job next year though.
Stansbury isn't going anywhere, nor should he. His record is really good. I know that we all get frustrated at some of the things he does, but I think overall he's done a good job. </p>
Let me ask this: Who do you think we could get that would do better? Seriously. Don't give some smart *** answer. I'm interested in knowing who people think we could get that would do better.</p>
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Let me ask this: Who do you think we could get that would do better? Seriously. Don't give some smart *** answer. I'm interested in knowing who people think we could get that would do better.</p>
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That is the only part that bothers me.sarge said:
Our basketball team = Cutcliffe's football team at Ole Miss. Decent, but mediocre. Not ever doing anything special, but not sucking either. I'd like to see a change, but with who?
We saw how swapping Coach Cut worked out for Ole Miss.
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can make the NCAA tourney 2 out of every 5 years? <div>
</div><div>So Larry Templeton was right when he spelled out his expectations upon hiring Stansbury. You are in esteemed company when you agree with Templeton about MSU athletic expectations. Congrats. </div>
</div><div>So Larry Templeton was right when he spelled out his expectations upon hiring Stansbury. You are in esteemed company when you agree with Templeton about MSU athletic expectations. Congrats. </div>
Seriously? Nothing special?
1 SEC regular season championship
2 SEC Tournament championships
5 (of the last 8) SEC West championships (knock it all you want, that's dominating your most common opponents)
6 of the past 8 NCAA Tournaments
Cutcliffe didn't do anything approaching what Stansbury has accomplished. To compare the two is ridiculous.
The anti-Stansbury crowd on this board has gotten to a level of hilarity.
As much as I'd like to see a change come to our basketball program, I think we should keep him for at least one more year simply for one reason. If Renardo decides to come back then I don't want us changing coaches and then him leaving as a result. However, we underachieved and have choked big time this year...Ole Miss football style. Still don't think Stans is a good coach at all, and he has no control over his team whatsoever.
The SEC success is there, no doubt. But, how much do you care about it? And, how much to people outside of the SEC care about it? In basketball, how important are those banners? Definitely something to be proud of, but certainly not as difficult as would an SEC West football banner would be.
We've shown ZERO effectiveness at the national level, despite doing very very well at the local level. What does that say about Rick and/or the SEC?
The Cutcliffe analogy isn't terrible in that he's trying to say that we are on the verge of being successful, but show streaks of mediocrity at times. It's hard to really say you are 100% dissatisfied or 100% satisfied. It's like some sort of success-limbo. And when you are a program that isn't used to being successful at the national level, you don't know whether it's right to be happy with what you have, or to shoot for something better (who know what that would be - that's why you hire Greg Byrne?). That's alot like the Cutcliffe scenario was at Ole Miss - if that's how you think about it.
We've shown ZERO effectiveness at the national level, despite doing very very well at the local level. What does that say about Rick and/or the SEC?
The Cutcliffe analogy isn't terrible in that he's trying to say that we are on the verge of being successful, but show streaks of mediocrity at times. It's hard to really say you are 100% dissatisfied or 100% satisfied. It's like some sort of success-limbo. And when you are a program that isn't used to being successful at the national level, you don't know whether it's right to be happy with what you have, or to shoot for something better (who know what that would be - that's why you hire Greg Byrne?). That's alot like the Cutcliffe scenario was at Ole Miss - if that's how you think about it.
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">We have this argument every day. This is just another way of doing it. If you could merge every post ever made about this subject into one thread you will see the same people on both side saying the same thing over and over. It get's old after a while. Some of you guys have got to learn to be happy. Being piss off and bitching about everything Miss State is no way to go through life.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"></span>Yes there is a time to ***** and a time not to ***** and yes I do ***** on occasions, in fact I am bitching now but hell some of you take it to the extreme.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">I think some of you ***** so much you don't even know you are bitching. It'shas become your persona. </span>Just so that you all know, I don’t go to the other State message boards.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I never have and never will.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I just don’t want to hear only the good stuff; I want to know some of the bad.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>That’s what makes Six Pack the best message board but dang some of you are just too damn negative, all the time.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes">In fact the only other sports message boards I have ever posted on was Nafooms, twice and Gerogia Tech's one time.</span></p>
We beat Tennessee and win again on Friday of the SECT, I think we are in.
That said , Ifthey don't go dancing this year or next , I could see both parties ready for change. If you look at what is coming back next, it will all hinge on Renardo Sidney. Whether Rick wants to admit itor not, getting Renardo eligible and making sure he is wearing a Bulldog uniform next year will weigh heavily on the success of next yearsteam, and him being the head coach at MSU in 2012.
I am worried about the 2011 recruiting class though. I wonder how many recruits would go somewhere else if we change head coaches next year?
That said , Ifthey don't go dancing this year or next , I could see both parties ready for change. If you look at what is coming back next, it will all hinge on Renardo Sidney. Whether Rick wants to admit itor not, getting Renardo eligible and making sure he is wearing a Bulldog uniform next year will weigh heavily on the success of next yearsteam, and him being the head coach at MSU in 2012.
I am worried about the 2011 recruiting class though. I wonder how many recruits would go somewhere else if we change head coaches next year?
Assuming we don't make the dance (regardless the season has been a let down to this point)
At the end of the year give him options:
Option 1 - Let someone on staff go. Byrne and Stans go on a manhunt for an offensive assistant and Stans lets him do his thing once he is here.
Option 2 - Stans doesn't want Byrne meddling in his business. Byrne says o.k. Do it your way. You have 2 years to reach (blank) goals. (i'd personally say sweet 16 or better)
At the end of the year give him options:
Option 1 - Let someone on staff go. Byrne and Stans go on a manhunt for an offensive assistant and Stans lets him do his thing once he is here.
Option 2 - Stans doesn't want Byrne meddling in his business. Byrne says o.k. Do it your way. You have 2 years to reach (blank) goals. (i'd personally say sweet 16 or better)
is that they want even admit this. The majority anyways.
The crazy thing is some of the same people defending Stans to the death admitted that they would boo Polk. Polk did some dumb ****, but how do you vote to boo him and defend stans on all accounts. Idiocy at its best.
The crazy thing is some of the same people defending Stans to the death admitted that they would boo Polk. Polk did some dumb ****, but how do you vote to boo him and defend stans on all accounts. Idiocy at its best.
Well, when Stans acts like a complete *** like Polk did, then maybe something should be done. Comparing Stans and Polk is not even close. Polk acted like an ***, Stans has been a class act the entire time.
Get rid of Stans = an excuse to build for three or four years before "New coach'sguys get on board". Then play no better than Stans has played the past ten years and say, "Just wait till next year - he has good guys lined up."
Of course I like his wife and kids. So we all know I'm a gomer from the get-go.
Of course I like his wife and kids. So we all know I'm a gomer from the get-go.
i like Stansbury as a person. I love his recruiting,but Stansbury is not a in-game coach doesn't make good schemes. MSU has probably had more transferres than any other D-1 school. This year has shown that he had no control over the team as a whole like the whole kodi augusta episode. I agree to give him a chance next year but if we don't make the tourney after next year we got to go a diffrent route. This is probably one of the best teams MSU has had in a while. Maybe some staff changes are in order. I'm pretty sure we could go get a mid major coach to come in who can turn us in to a tournament team
Agree, no oneactually likes a coach at MSU except forin his first few years, then they turn on him once they realize he can't win here either.MeridianDog said:
What coach at MSU have people still liked after 5-10 years?
This season might bedisappointing b/c of our expectations (which he is the reason for), but this basketball season is STILL better than all but 1 or 2 seasons we've had in any other sport the last9 years.
I say sell, I know that Stans sucks as a coach and probably needs to go, but the problem is that if you fire Stans this year its hard to find another coach because they become worried about job security seeing as how we ended up making the tournament last year. I say we give Stans next year to see what we can do and if things just aren't working out then it may be time for a change. Our basketball program has really gotten stale and it may be time to move on but not this year.
Let me ask this though.
Up until Polk's undoing, was he not a class act? Even more so than Stansbury. Great ambassador for MSU, college baseball, etc. God knows he achieved 1000 times more than what Stansbury did. Would you not say this is correct?
Would we not agree that it drug on too long and that is what caused the riff at the end (agree also that was Polk's fought).
Now use your brain and see if you can't find some sort of comparison between the two careers. Well minus the fact that Polk had done a ton more at that point in his career.
Why let Stans continue to drudge along in mediocrity (to everyone outside of the SEC West)?
Up until Polk's undoing, was he not a class act? Even more so than Stansbury. Great ambassador for MSU, college baseball, etc. God knows he achieved 1000 times more than what Stansbury did. Would you not say this is correct?
Would we not agree that it drug on too long and that is what caused the riff at the end (agree also that was Polk's fought).
Now use your brain and see if you can't find some sort of comparison between the two careers. Well minus the fact that Polk had done a ton more at that point in his career.
Why let Stans continue to drudge along in mediocrity (to everyone outside of the SEC West)?