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ehhh? maybe?
Bianco seems to be well on his way there this year. Of course, he also did in his previous years.
Bianco seems to be well on his way there this year. Of course, he also did in his previous years.
rebel law said:
You must not have seen our recruiting class we're bringing in that will be by far the best class in the nation. I have heard some will get drafted so as long as we keep 90% of the class we should be in the middle of the pack in the SEC next year then probably one of the top 4 or 5 teams next year. After that the sky is the limit. Right now we're playing so bad b/c 1) we don't have any pitchers but we have plenty on the way, and 2) we're playing Cohen's style of play with not his type of players. It's actually sort of like what Crxxm was doing with his west coast offense but he never did anything to change his personnel by being a lazy recruiting. Cohen is not a lazy recruiter at all, and next year it will pay huge dividends for the dawgs.
"our recruiting class we're bringing in that will be by far the best class in the nation"
Some good comedy on the pack today. MSU has the best linebackers in the SEC and the best baseball recruiting class in the nation. We have a CHANCE to go to Omaha this year. MSU doesn't. We will have a team that is somewhat capable of making it to Omaha in 2010. MSU won't. Again we will have a team that is capable of making it to Omaha in 2011, I highly doubt MSU will. Cohen is in rebuild mode. Ole Miss isn't right now.Now by 2012 if Cohen is the right man for the job then the rebuilding job will be done. My point is OM will have somewhat legitimate chances at Omaha for the next 3 years while MSU won't. That puts the ball in Bianco's court to beat Cohen to Omaha. Of course Bianco has to figure out a way to win a super regional first but then again Cohen has to figure out a way to win his first regional. We will see but right now Bianco has to be the odds on favorite to beat Cohen to Omaha. I guess in your mind Mullen has a better chance of making it to Atlanta before Nutt. It could certainly happen but right now in 2009, Ole Miss baseball and football is in alot better shape than MSU baseball or football. It could be a completely different story in 2 or 3 years. Who knows.
Some good comedy on the pack today. MSU has the best linebackers in the SEC and the best baseball recruiting class in the nation. We have a CHANCE to go to Omaha this year. MSU doesn't. We will have a team that is somewhat capable of making it to Omaha in 2010. MSU won't. Again we will have a team that is capable of making it to Omaha in 2011, I highly doubt MSU will. Cohen is in rebuild mode. Ole Miss isn't right now.Now by 2012 if Cohen is the right man for the job then the rebuilding job will be done. My point is OM will have somewhat legitimate chances at Omaha for the next 3 years while MSU won't. That puts the ball in Bianco's court to beat Cohen to Omaha. Of course Bianco has to figure out a way to win a super regional first but then again Cohen has to figure out a way to win his first regional. We will see but right now Bianco has to be the odds on favorite to beat Cohen to Omaha. I guess in your mind Mullen has a better chance of making it to Atlanta before Nutt. It could certainly happen but right now in 2009, Ole Miss baseball and football is in alot better shape than MSU baseball or football. It could be a completely different story in 2 or 3 years. Who knows.
but the top class this year is probably going to go to Florida.
Our class will probably be a top 20 class, which is pretty good for a coach in his first year. I think the most important thing is that we recruited some pitchers that I think will be good quality guys for us next year and beyond. I think we've also laid a very good foundation in Mississippi, which I think is very important, as well as Alabama.
Cohen's next class is going to focus more on filling in positions like the middle infield, third base, the outfield, possibly catcher, as well as continuing to get as much pitching as possible.
We also stand a good chance of losing some guys to the draft. I would not be surprised at all if the number of recruits we have drafted this year doubles the number of recruits drafted the last four years.
Our class will probably be a top 20 class, which is pretty good for a coach in his first year. I think the most important thing is that we recruited some pitchers that I think will be good quality guys for us next year and beyond. I think we've also laid a very good foundation in Mississippi, which I think is very important, as well as Alabama.
Cohen's next class is going to focus more on filling in positions like the middle infield, third base, the outfield, possibly catcher, as well as continuing to get as much pitching as possible.
We also stand a good chance of losing some guys to the draft. I would not be surprised at all if the number of recruits we have drafted this year doubles the number of recruits drafted the last four years.
I get sick of coming to a MSU board & having to read your pimped up ******** about the biggest choke job of a baseball team in college baseball.rebel law said:
Cohen will catch & surpass Ole Miss in three years (probably two, but I'll go long term & say three).
Everybody except Ole Miss trolls realize that.
Anyway, buy.
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Cohen wasn't hired to conduct a Croom-esque 10 year re-building program.
He was hired to work a quick turnaround like he did @ UK.
This baseball team is bad, but they are not 3-sweeps-in-one-season bad.
One more sweep is a red flag.
Two more sweeps & you'll have to begin questioning the hiring of Cohen
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Cohen wasn't hired to conduct a Croom-esque 10 year re-building program.
He was hired to work a quick turnaround like he did @ UK.
This baseball team is bad, but they are not 3-sweeps-in-one-season bad.
One more sweep is a red flag.
Two more sweeps & you'll have to begin questioning the hiring of Cohen
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I've said for years that its just a matter of time before Bianco takes UM to the CWS, just like its just a matter of time before Stans takes MSU to the Sweet 16. And Bianco's got the starting pitching this year to get the job done, assuming Bittle's injury isn't something that's going to linger into the postseason (and I don't see any reason right now to think that it will).
...I have a crap load of posts here, so it's inevitable I contradict myself.
OMlawdog has an axe to grind with me, because I have been calling him on his ******** for years.
So he finally got me.
As for you, I get sick of your constant pumping up Ole Miss baseball while concurrently bashing MSU baseball.
I come here to read MSU news, & instead I am subjected to Ole Miss propaganda from the likes of you.
If you want to dream the on-going dream "this is finally our year," then go dream on NAFOOM.
OMlawdog has an axe to grind with me, because I have been calling him on his ******** for years.
So he finally got me.
As for you, I get sick of your constant pumping up Ole Miss baseball while concurrently bashing MSU baseball.
I come here to read MSU news, & instead I am subjected to Ole Miss propaganda from the likes of you.
If you want to dream the on-going dream "this is finally our year," then go dream on NAFOOM.
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Kentucky as of 5/07/09 - SEC 9-15, All 24-23.
He does a great Lou Pinella impersonation but other than that......
Kentucky as of 5/07/09 - SEC 9-15, All 24-23.
He does a great Lou Pinella impersonation but other than that......
you're irrelevant now. and sort of a joke. i always liked you before. ok that's not exactly true. but i never wished this for you.
Seems like a reasonable explanation since they have taken a nose dive. I don't know their roster and I really haven't kept up with them closely. Cohen may be your man.8Dog said:
If not, then expect Cohen to close the gap next year.
I think it is a better comparison to ask if it will take Cohen nine years, assuming Bianco goes this year, to make it. I say if he doesn't make it before year nine, he is a gone ***.
I think it is a better comparison to ask if it will take Cohen nine years, assuming Bianco goes this year, to make it. I say if he doesn't make it before year nine, he is a gone ***.
Since you are the chairman of the archives, please show me one post, just one post where I ever said this was our year. I haven't. You got your panties in a wad because I said the following: Right now, in 2009, the Ole Miss football and baseball program is in much better shape than MSU's. I don't think any unbiased person would argue that. Just as no unbiased person would argue that the MSU basketball program is not in much better shape than the Ole Miss program. It is what it is. It can all change in a year or two. Sorry if that hurt your feelings. I don't come here and constantly pump up Ole Miss baseball. I come here to discuss baseball with educated baseball fans, such as Pat, 8dog, Todd, dawgstudent, hammu, downtown, etc.... I don't include you for a reason. I have said at least 20 times on this board that I think Cohen is a good coach and he will get it turned around. It won't happen next year. You don't have the best recruiting class in the nation. Sorry if the truth hurts your feelings. Go read GenesPage to make you feel better about yourself.
and I guess that's all that matters. I'm a little torn because I really don't like the way he's handled a couple of things this year. If you're for winning, and that's all that matters, John Cohen is your man.
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It would be interesting to see if State fans would be up in arms if Cohen took them to several Supers but not Omaha in nine years.
I don't care what you do with Bianco. I hope he stays there another 30 years with the same postseason results. If Cohen doesn't make it year nine into his tenure, then we haven't had a CWS appearance in ten years. I think State should expect to make it to Omaha more often than once every ten years. Also, I expect State to host regionals and Supers by year five. My expectations for MSU base are- Host a regional 2 out of three years, host a Super at least one out of three and make it to the CWS one out of five. Whether the fan base calls for his head after nine years and no CWS appearance remains to be seen. After all, many fans were ok with finishing 9th in the SEC and then hoping, praying and wishing that we get a number 3 seed in Lincoln, Miami or Corvalis.
Barkman Turner Overdrive said:
Bianco took over a team that had gone 30-25 (12-17) the previous season (5th in the West, 9th overall). Since Bianco has arrived, he's taken us to regionals in 7 of 8 seasons. The lone season we didn't go was 2002 when the team collapsed over the final 4 weekends going 2-10, missing the SEC tourney and NCAA tourney by 1 game.
We've hosted 4 regionals in those 8 seasons (first one coming in his 4th season), will be 5 out of 9 seasons most likely after this year. We've hosted 2 Supers, and we've been to 3 supers in those 8 years. So, when you look at those numbers, they are fairly similar to what you say you want out of MSU baseball, with the exception of the elusive CWS appearance, and to me that's just a matter of chance at this point, not anything Bianco has done wrong. I'll admit that I've been down on the guy about it before, but when I calm down and think about it rationally, he's done about as good as you could want or expect from your baseball program. You get your team to the postseason in position to make noise, and from there a lot of it is just up to chance on how well you play and what kind of pitchers you run into, and who gets upset in your bracket.
Bulldog Backer said:
Bianco has won 3 regionals and lost in 4 regionals. Only once has he lost a regional that we hosted. The other regional losses, we were a 2 or 3 seed.
And I can't say he really screwed up the Supers at any time. Texas was just a great team, and they made a few more plays than us. Play that series 10 times, we probably win 5 of them. Miami was a very good team, and we had very young pitching that had a hard time with their line up. RPI-wise, they were about the same as us that year. Against ASU, the mental issues we were having with closing games came to manifest itself in Game 1, and we weren't able to recover after blowing the lead. I can't really point at any of those and put the blame on Bianco.
...gotten the Rebels too?
None. It is because he has had great teams that can't get out of the super regionals. Why? I don't know?
None. It is because he has had great teams that can't get out of the super regionals. Why? I don't know?
Bulldog Backer said:
I still say that's just a matter of chance to an extent. Your old coach used to say "that's baseball", and to a point he's right. It's the same reason Stans hasn't gotten past the 2nd round of the NCAA tourney. He's had teams that were good enough. They just either ran into a hot shooter, had an off night, or something else that kept them from advancing further. In a short series, or a single elimination tourney, it doesn't take much to make the difference between a great run and a disappointing one.
...I also say superregionals. Then I correct myself, and narrow it to super regionals. The point is that Ole Miss has had very outstanding teams that never seem to make it to Omaha, because they can't get out of the qualifying rounds. I said they probably won't this year, because I think they tend to choke. JMHO