Penn State offseason stock, players in NFL and Hoops: BWI Live
Penn State football had an offseason of change in December. How did they do? The BWI Live crew answers that question and more at noon.
BWI Live: Penn State stock up, down or neutral?
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Why? Not ballbusting. Serious question. We all know where the jets WERE even 2 years ago. What happened in those 2 years that causes you to think this way now? They were 2-14, then 4-13 the last 2 seasons and this year was saleh’s first year. Is it because of Wilson? Or is this not so much about your optimism of the Jets but more of your pessimism of Penn state?
Again, legitimately curious here.
good conversation by Nate, Dave and TFrank. A couple say "stock down". This is based on a lot of losses in terms of key players and coaches. TFrank was the most optimistic as he was projecting forward. This does hit a point talked about on other posts, and that if you are recruiting top talent then you will become a perpetual young team. your best guys to NFL in 3, your guys who are not seeing the field after a couple years transfer and you need first and second year players to be contributing at a high level. even at OL you are going to need some of your top talent in the Fr/So classes to be big contributors. you can't expect to have your starters dominated by the older 4th and 5th year players. Nate - good comment that this means you identify the misses early and cut them loose. that has not been Penn State football historically.Penn State offseason stock, players in NFL and Hoops: BWI Live
Penn State football had an offseason of change in December. How did they do? The BWI Live crew answers that question and more at noon.www.on3.com
Nates point there in the end of your recap is one that doesn't sit easy with me. I guess if we're going full NFL in college, that's fine but there will be people sold on the idea of "family" and then be treated very differently. Messaging there is important because that crosses a line.
You must be very sold on Zack Wilson.
Here's another topic we didn't discuss because we beat it to death this year; organizational support. I'll pick a different team to DCF4PSU doesn't have to hear bad words about the Jets. The Washington Football team is a very publicly, very poorly run organization. Their leadership structure from the owner down has been preventing that team from winning for 20+ years.
Penn State is not that but they are not in an ecosystem that fully supports winning a the highest level. NFL Teams that are run well are run with the sole purpose of winning. That's going to be the biggest challenge for college teams in this new era. Universities are not NFL front-offices and their mission statement is not to win a National Championship. How do you make up for the shortcomings of your organization that exist on all levels by simply running better plays? Again, we've beaten this to death but it's much cleaner and simpler in the NFL.
My entire outlook for PSU football changed with the Illinois 9OT game that I sat through. Inexcusable losses after a tough loss are now the norm for this coaching staff. Until that changes I will not have a favorable opinion of Penn State football. Zack Wilson did not throw an interception after returning from his knee injury. the Jets have two first round and two second round picks in this draft.
