Byrne on Stadium Expansion
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for those wanting to join the BD club and not be buried in the cheap seats for the next 30 years.
I've just come to accept the startling revelation that I'm going to have to kiss Porkchop's *** in order to get into the club level.
It may help us in five years at the Dude too when we're sitting in his new luxury left field box, and we can wave at cb9's dead *** on his former lounge contraption sitting at the Bryan Building.
It may help us in five years at the Dude too when we're sitting in his new luxury left field box, and we can wave at cb9's dead *** on his former lounge contraption sitting at the Bryan Building.
Im still in shock this morning. Thats ok though... Im still joining today, and im going to start chipping away at the points list.</p>
'sooner rather than later', as the Ninja said...
One of the most requested changes to DWS has been the work on the west side, so the athletic department is anxious to get that done. Luckily, they can't (or won't) start renovating the west side until an expansion of some sort is done in the north end zone, because we are going to lose seats on the west side when they modify it. And thank GOD, this AD refuses to go backwards on anything, including seating capacity.
ETA: To answer your question, yes I'm pretty sure pressbox renovation and a club level are being considered top priority on that side... As well as some Loge seating, which should be very cool.
One of the most requested changes to DWS has been the work on the west side, so the athletic department is anxious to get that done. Luckily, they can't (or won't) start renovating the west side until an expansion of some sort is done in the north end zone, because we are going to lose seats on the west side when they modify it. And thank GOD, this AD refuses to go backwards on anything, including seating capacity.
ETA: To answer your question, yes I'm pretty sure pressbox renovation and a club level are being considered top priority on that side... As well as some Loge seating, which should be very cool.
Put in the high dollar club level, and renovate the press box. This would keep the capacity about the same. Make tickets harder to come by, and charge a bit more to bring us closer in line with other SEC schools. I know the prevailing thought is build it and they will come, but I don't think we're at that point yet. Right now it is too easy for an opposing fan to buy prime season tickets, sell off the ones they don't need, and come out ahead. The last thing I want is to make room for 10k more opposing fans. We averaged 10k more fans per game- but how much of that was because of the favorable schedule?
...and I'm looking at it from strictly a cost/revenue stand point, sinking a lot of money in west side renovations doesn't make much sense. We're already selling every ticket there for top dollar. How will making it nicer have any effect on that? Now.. if you're talking about changing the 200 seats into some type of club level and can make the numbers work to where you increase revenue then so be it.
Oh.. and the press box? Don't make me laugh. That should be the last place we spend a dime. Look at basketball. Press row was turned into press corner. Why was that done? $$$$$
The only solution that makes sense: Connect the east and west sections in the north endzone. Add 12K seats with 1,200 of them being in an ultra nice club level on top. Be mindful of the future in that one day down the road you might want to add an 8K seat upper deck to top off the club level. Be confident that the big *** video board we built will make those seats well worth the fans' money.
But whatever we do.. and this is damned important.. Become the largest stadium in the state. Whatever OM's next move is with Vaught Hemingway, it's going to be EXTREMELY expensive for them to add even 5K more seats. Get ahead of them.. stay ahead of them...
Oh.. and the press box? Don't make me laugh. That should be the last place we spend a dime. Look at basketball. Press row was turned into press corner. Why was that done? $$$$$
The only solution that makes sense: Connect the east and west sections in the north endzone. Add 12K seats with 1,200 of them being in an ultra nice club level on top. Be mindful of the future in that one day down the road you might want to add an 8K seat upper deck to top off the club level. Be confident that the big *** video board we built will make those seats well worth the fans' money.
But whatever we do.. and this is damned important.. Become the largest stadium in the state. Whatever OM's next move is with Vaught Hemingway, it's going to be EXTREMELY expensive for them to add even 5K more seats. Get ahead of them.. stay ahead of them...
Renovating the quarterdeck into a club level would be less impact/cost/etc than trying to erect an entire support structure on the north endzone. Quarterdeck tickets will go from $600/seat to $1250 per seat (or higher). Or, sink all the cost into the north endzone for seats that will be predominately student section and $50/seat tickets. Yes, you can add club level and boxes, but it's been stated before the demand is high for club level, not so much boxes.
The ROI will be much faster for a west side renovation.</p>
The ROI will be much faster for a west side renovation.</p>
I know this is trivial, but I was thinking about it at the Egg Bowl. It would be nice for the lights on the east and west side to match. I know it has been mentioned that the new deck was not designed with support for stadium lights in mind. What if we mounted lights on a big *** pole, just like they are right now, behind the stadium and then incorporated the poles into the exterior facade when renovations are done. Then it would give the appearance of being balanced. The poles could be reinforced into the stadium all the way up to give them the necessary support. Just a thought.
Looking at the existing west side, quarter deck, specifically. How difficult is it going to be to renovate that area into skyboxes? If you look at the construction of it, it just a concrete overhang. I admit to not being an architect or engineer. However, I am curious how difficult it would be to renovate that into skyboxes and etc.? It looks to me. That a renovation may involved a total "redo" of that quarter deck. I don't see how you fit two level of skyboxes in there. Maybe one level but you would still have to build back towards the west. Which would entail building from the ground up to expand the concourses and etc. Not that it can not be done. But I was just curious as to what others thought about the specifics of renovating that area. With the way it is now, can it be renovated to look similar to the east? I imagine it looking more like what Auburn has now on one side.
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Anyway, whatever happens, I hope the north endzone level is first class. Not with just the seating, club levels, skyboxes but also underneath and the facade. It needs to have a MSU Hall of Fame, restaurant, and new dressing rooms for the team....just to name a few things. It would be a tough decision for an AD. Do you build just a lower level in the NEZ and renovate the west side now? Or build a complete 1st class NEZ structure and come back later and do a major reconstruction of the west side to make it a first class area?
Jordan Hare
Anyway, whatever happens, I hope the north endzone level is first class. Not with just the seating, club levels, skyboxes but also underneath and the facade. It needs to have a MSU Hall of Fame, restaurant, and new dressing rooms for the team....just to name a few things. It would be a tough decision for an AD. Do you build just a lower level in the NEZ and renovate the west side now? Or build a complete 1st class NEZ structure and come back later and do a major reconstruction of the west side to make it a first class area?
side as well. What I would be more concerned about is that you already can't handle parking for 50,000...what will it be like for 60,000? They might want to step up the pace on proposed multi-level parking garages in time with these renovations.
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font face="Calibri">I think the ninja should enclose the North end zone, to make the stadium more of a horseshoe shape, take down the small jumbo tron from the early 90's and put up another HD jumbo tron on a smaller scale from the giant one that we already have. Also, another thing that needs to be renovated should be the restrooms! I'm about sick and tired of the Templeton Troughs and feeling like someone is going to piss on my foot at every game! If they enclose the North end zone, which should be the majority of the student section and with that it would plenty of cowbells to give the opposing team hell! The only people who would be pissed off about it would be those rich *** bulldog club supporters who park their Tahoes and Escalades in that parking lot right under the North Stands.</font></p>
What was shown to me was the converting of some of the chairback seats on the west side to a Club Level type area and a straight across enclosing of the north (not a horse shoe) with premium boxes on the top
Xenomorph said:
The East Side Club Level requires a minimum $1000 donation to the Bulldog Club per ticket, while the West Side Club Level only requires a $500 per ticket donation. There is money to be made if the West side is brought up to the equivalent of the East side. The demand for those tickets is certainly there.
Straight across makes more sense than a true horse shoe. You get closer to the field and they wouldnt have to take out the road behind the addition.
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This is not what we need
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This is what we need
This is not what we need
of that very expansion at DWS.
/Although USMs expansion is top notch
//The size borders on "dinky"
/Although USMs expansion is top notch
//The size borders on "dinky"
same height as the existing lower east and west sides but it does need to be larger for the bleacher seats. I assume the students will still be sitting there and what USM did is probably not as many seats as we currently have in the endzone.
I spent most of my time this past football season watching games from the ramps at DWS rather than in my seat because I like to stretch my legs.
i vote the clemson model. imo, making the seats in the north endzone match the height of the east and west side would be way too many seats than we need at the moment.
if we can add 10k seats, a top notch club level/skybox area that overhangs the endzone seats, and place the foundation to where it would be fairly simple to add another 8-10K seats in a new upperdeck in the endzone, should we need it in 5-10 years.
i havent sat in the student section in a while, but it was overcrowded 7 years ago. i couldnt imagine it now. students need the endzone seats to the 30 on the east side. it would open up more "prime" seating for Bulldog club members on the east.
if we can add 10k seats, a top notch club level/skybox area that overhangs the endzone seats, and place the foundation to where it would be fairly simple to add another 8-10K seats in a new upperdeck in the endzone, should we need it in 5-10 years.
i havent sat in the student section in a while, but it was overcrowded 7 years ago. i couldnt imagine it now. students need the endzone seats to the 30 on the east side. it would open up more "prime" seating for Bulldog club members on the east.