Byrne on Stadium Expansion
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within the next few years. With the students being too crowded this year , we are going to need at least 3,000 more seats JUST for the students. If we had a 62,000 capacity stadium this past season, we would have averaged at least 60,000 with 2 or 3 sellouts. That's over a million dollars additional revenue.
That's true! Especially with enrollment at State in now over 18,000 and growing. The more students we have at the games with the renovation, the more louder it will be especially with all the cowbells and students get more involved at the games than ever before!</p>
It needs to be completely gutted and renovated. It's awful. At the very least, I'd like to see them pour "half-steps" before next season. Those damn things now are tall and steep. If you've got bad knees or are a blue hair, it's hard as hell getting up and down.
As usual, the Ninja may be one step ahead. I was at Auburn, but didn't notice Byrne pointing it out. It did make it easier to climb, though.
Enclose and extend the quarterdeck and section underneath to make a true club level. Gut the area under the west side. Take out the retarded walls, concession stands, turlets, all of it. There's plenty of space down there for there to be an actual design instead of the "well, we put this **** here, deal with it" layout we've got. We should build an actual facade on the outside, too. Go with a design like USM or Clemson in the NEZ, but possibly larger scale. Make the endzone an expandable design.
Oh, and possibly build ramps that match the east side where the erector sets are.
*I don't know or care what any of this costs. They're just observations*
Oh, and possibly build ramps that match the east side where the erector sets are.
*I don't know or care what any of this costs. They're just observations*
West is first.. those new <span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">club and</span> suites pay for themselves. and the work can be done between football seasons easily... its ripping out some flimsy walls and renovating the area for a club level feel instead of open air.</span>Mr Meoff said:
Like I was trying to say earlier. The concourse seems pretty small up there. The concourse of the chairbacks is small and the quarter deck is even smaller. To have a nice club level, similar to the east side or better, you would need more floor space in the area that is now the concourse. Sure, you could throw up some walls and enclose it. But the lounge area would be tiny and have very little room for lockers, food service, and prep. It is going to take a major over haul which would last over a year.
one of those multi level driving ranges you would see in some big city. I would hate to see that at DWS!
and I have heard they want to charge more for those seats on the West Side. I don't think it's going to be as simple as putting up walls. There isn't enough room up for the kitchen and other stuff unless the transport the food from the East Side.
the problem with that it goes from being a conversion into major building... it becomes a bigger project than building the north endzone from scratch.
To redo the west as everyone is speaking of includes expanding the concourses, the only way to do that is to build out
and that requires removing or moving the road behind the stadium west into the lawn area of B&N and removing parking areas.
Then you get into building a new facade which yes is needed but does not produce revenue.
I agree it shouldnt be half-assed, and I also agree with DS if this is done right the West side seats should go for more than the east due to being on the home side.
To redo the west as everyone is speaking of includes expanding the concourses, the only way to do that is to build out
and that requires removing or moving the road behind the stadium west into the lawn area of B&N and removing parking areas.
Then you get into building a new facade which yes is needed but does not produce revenue.
I agree it shouldnt be half-assed, and I also agree with DS if this is done right the West side seats should go for more than the east due to being on the home side.
I think USM did a great job with what they had to work with. I think something like that would be best for us. Just do it a little bigger and make sure it adds the additional seats we need. I've been two numerous games at USM and sat in the club level and the boxes, State once or twice. Go figure, the life of a State fan. USM's are really nice and I think they are better than what we have now. The open area outside the boxes and the club level are what I like. They also didn't waste space on the boxes by having a bathroom in each one. If I had one thats the way I would want it. I can walk down the hall to pee.
My mom hurt her knee and even though she has had it scoped she still can't go up those stairs. One game I actually carried her down the stairs on my back. Now we just go up and use the ramps which takes for-freaking-ever!South Panola Dawg said:
As for the other stuff, I like all the ideas except putting premium seating in the end zone. If it will sell that is fine, but I wouldn't pay a dollar for premium seating in the end zone. I'm just not going to watch a game from there. I loved the idea of that bench seating with the table top. Give me that between the 35's and I would be willing to pay for it. We also have a friend that would probably buy a skybox if some were available so I'm all for adding those. I can leech off his cash donations and live in luxury. Make it so Ninja!!
to not do it half assed if you use the existing structure we have. I just don't think there is enough room to have a club level that matches what is on the east side.
It can be renovated into a clublevel deal, but it wont be as good so it shouldnt cost as much per seat.</p>
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/Then maybe I can get a damn ticket up there.</p>
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/Then maybe I can get a damn ticket up there.</p>
It's all about the expensive seats. There is and has been a waiting list for club level. Ask anybody. That list will expand for next year. They will build something that will house both season tickets and club level similar to what Alabama is doing in their South end zone and has done in their North one. It will happen in our North end zone first. </p>
The problem with the West side is you've got so many long time free loaders sitting over there who won't pay the 1,250.00(+ticket cost) X 4 for the seat price. They will ***** like crazy so Byrne will have to spoon feed it to them in phases. He's got to get the C.L. waiting list people into a club level and then when he wants to re-do the west side, he's got wiggle room to move the end zone club level seat holders into the new West side club level for those free loaders who don't want to pay for their seat. This has been done at Bama and I know a lot of former Bama season ticket holders, who had great seats, get punted to the upper deck for not paying for their seats. How do you think they are paying for Saban?</p>
The problem with the West side is you've got so many long time free loaders sitting over there who won't pay the 1,250.00(+ticket cost) X 4 for the seat price. They will ***** like crazy so Byrne will have to spoon feed it to them in phases. He's got to get the C.L. waiting list people into a club level and then when he wants to re-do the west side, he's got wiggle room to move the end zone club level seat holders into the new West side club level for those free loaders who don't want to pay for their seat. This has been done at Bama and I know a lot of former Bama season ticket holders, who had great seats, get punted to the upper deck for not paying for their seats. How do you think they are paying for Saban?</p>
...that as I said before, this is the reason they are NOT starting any renovations on the west side:
They don't want to lose seating. If they did this, and in 2011 our capacity went back down to 51,000 or whatever, it sends a message the athletic department doesn't want to send.
Someone could make the arguments that 'it's temporary', or 'we could just tell everyone this is Phase I' or whatever... But, like I said, this comes from what I would consider a reliable source. And, I'd rather them use this as motivation to go ahead and get the expansion done now anyway.
They don't want to lose seating. If they did this, and in 2011 our capacity went back down to 51,000 or whatever, it sends a message the athletic department doesn't want to send.
Someone could make the arguments that 'it's temporary', or 'we could just tell everyone this is Phase I' or whatever... But, like I said, this comes from what I would consider a reliable source. And, I'd rather them use this as motivation to go ahead and get the expansion done now anyway.
