C Wilson

Sep 13, 2003
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Losing out on Wilson is a big blow no matter how people here try to spin it. We were the leader for a long time and and to lose him to the **** show that is UNC is a major disappointment.

I want to see Pope get a top recruit that is not from KY.
If this kid decides to go to UNC over UK, it's more of a sign of how short-sighted this kid and his handlers are than a "big blow" to UK and Coach Pope's staff.

How could the #8 ranked kid that struggles to make 3's, isn't a prolific scorer and is not strong enough to guard SEC PF's be considered a must recruit? This isn't Anthony Davis, KAT or even Julius Randle we are talking about.

Coach Pope will get who HE wants, whether it's a HS recruit OR a portal transfer. Now if a kid he wants seeks a bigger paycheck or unlimited autonomy to do what he wants, I think our staff will weigh the situation and do what is BEST for UK. This may be the case here or it may not. In 24 hrs we'll know.

I TRUST this staff!!!
 

Cat_Man_Blue

All-Conference
Jan 5, 2003
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It sounds like the biggest factor for CW was how well the two 5 star freshman are doing at UNC. If that is the case, that is very short sighted on CW's part. Coach pope became the UK coach late in the game and had no chance to real in some 5 star players. Pope had no players on day one and had build the roster almost entirely through the portal.

Duke, UK & UNC all hired former players. I have no doubt that time will show that UK made the best hire.
 

DraftCat

Heisman
Nov 5, 2011
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True but modern kids believe Facebook is for boomers. I doubt a lot of them are searching for message boards.

Yea I mean most message boards have been on their way out for a while now. I'm part of several and Rupp Rafters is easily the most engaging.

Majority of people are on Twitter, Reddit and of course the Tik Tok and Instagram videos.
 
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yoshukai

Heisman
Dec 21, 2002
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Losing out on Wilson is a big blow no matter how people here try to spin it. We were the leader for a long time and and to lose him to the **** show that is UNC is a major disappointment.

I want to see Pope get a top recruit that is not from KY.
The ONLY reason we were the leader is because our NIL offer was higher. He had a long time relationship with Davis and been attending their practices before CMP was ever hired . If this was before the NIL he probably would have committed to UNC midway through his Junior year . All UNC needed to do was make a comparable NIL offer and guarantee him shots . It’s being reported that they have done both.
 

SDcatfan13

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Sep 26, 2003
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Losing out on Wilson is a big blow no matter how people here try to spin it. We were the leader for a long time and and to lose him to the **** show that is UNC is a major disappointment.

I want to see Pope get a top recruit that is not from KY.
Who is Acaden Lewis then? Imagine he'll have just as much if not more of an impact than Wilson during his college career.
 

rivercatinfl

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Nov 21, 2012
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Anyone that thinks Garrison is a power forward is mentally challenged. It would make me feel a lot better if we could bring in another inside guy , mainly because Garrison seems to be a little foul prone .

Moreno seems to have lots of upside and will be a good player one day. Do you trust him as a freshman to take 15 to 20 minutes a game? I’ve only seen his highlights on YouTube. I’ve never seen him play a live game. I’m sincerely just asking. Is it a legit expectation for him to be able to come right in and give solid back up center minutes?
I'm skeptical due his size. Yeah he's 6'11 but is very thin. I saw him play early in the year and although he has nice touch around the basket, he got pushed around by a 6'7" player much stronger.
Pope can and will develop him, I like him but it's a push for him to get 15-20 minutes next year IMO.
Soph yr he will be much stronger and able to hold his own more.
 

Panthur

Heisman
Aug 5, 2008
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Yea I mean most message boards have been on their way out for a while now. I'm part of several and Rupp Rafters is easily the most engaging.

Majority of people are on Twitter, Reddit and of course the Tik Tok and Instagram videos.
Yeah I started on a tiny other board around 2003/4 maybe? Can’t even remember what that one was called but they kept making fun of “Raftards” so eventually I came here to see what all the fuss was about. Never left.
 
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Tayshaun4Three

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Nov 17, 2016
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Losing out on Wilson is a big blow no matter how people here try to spin it. We were the leader for a long time and and to lose him to the **** show that is UNC is a major disappointment.

I want to see Pope get a top recruit that is not from KY.
Agreed…..if you are concerned about winning PR battles. I don’t think it matters. Pope has built up enough equity already with me. Go after Ament and if you don’t get him, go to the portal.
 
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Tayshaun4Three

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I can see both arguments honestly but at some point Kentucky does need to get a top 5 guy, thsi class shouldn’t be a indictment since it’s his first year
I’m not sure I agree they need a top 5 guy. To me, it matters what Pope does on the court. I respect that opinions can differ on it. I just wanted to encourage those who might be down about it. A reminder that, Hey! We are going to be good with Pope without Wilson!
 

yoshukai

Heisman
Dec 21, 2002
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39,316
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I can see both arguments honestly but at some point Kentucky does need to get a top 5 guy, thsi class shouldn’t be a indictment since it’s his first year
Why ? When is the last time a team won a championship that had a top 5 guy ? Pretty sure you have to go back a LONG way to find one .Castle wasn’t consensus top 10 and he’s the only top 30 guy Hurley has signed since he’s been there . Wilson wasn’t top 5 anyway.
 

ukhemingway

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Dec 21, 2005
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Why ? When is the last time a team won a championship that had a top 5 guy ? Pretty sure you have to go back a LONG way to find one .Castle wasn’t consensus top 10 and he’s the only top 30 guy Hurley has signed since he’s been there . Wilson wasn’t top 5 anyway.
Welp.. you are gonna see one this year. Duke is freaking good and they have 3 stud freshman.
 
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chasingwildcat

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Why ? When is the last time a team won a championship that had a top 5 guy ? Pretty sure you have to go back a LONG way to find one .Castle wasn’t consensus top 10 and he’s the only top 30 guy Hurley has signed since he’s been there . Wilson wasn’t top 5 anyway.
he is consensus top 10 guy actually

he is #10 in 247 composite
 

chasingwildcat

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Again, talent will make game much easier. Duke has huge talent with no coaching and is #2.

We should get both huge talent and good experience pieces to make success
 
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DaDirtyLeb69

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Why ? When is the last time a team won a championship that had a top 5 guy ? Pretty sure you have to go back a LONG way to find one .Castle wasn’t consensus top 10 and he’s the only top 30 guy Hurley has signed since he’s been there . Wilson wasn’t top 5 anyway.
Okay let me rephrase my argument, you need a lottery type talent to win titles
 

yoshukai

Heisman
Dec 21, 2002
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Welp.. you are gonna see one this year. Duke is freaking good and they have 3 stud freshman.
We’ll see . Hasn’t happened yet. But Cooper Flagg isn’t the typical top 5 guy either. They’ve had three better than them combined and they didn’t make the final four.
Auburn is better on a neutral floor , how many do they have ?
 
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DaDirtyLeb69

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Jan 4, 2022
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I’m not sure I agree they need a top 5 guy. To me, it matters what Pope does on the court. I respect that opinions can differ on it. I just wanted to encourage those who might be down about it. A reminder that, Hey! We are going to be good with Pope without Wilson!
You don’t need a team full of them, but I definitely think you need one, sometimes 2
 
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Losing out on Wilson is a big blow no matter how people here try to spin it. We were the leader for a long time and and to lose him to the **** show that is UNC is a major disappointment.

I want to see Pope get a top recruit that is not from KY.
Last time I checked we beat a lot of big time schools for Lewis he even spurned UConn to come play for Pope next year! Last time I also checked he wasn’t from Kentucky and he’s a big time recruit.
 

Rockfly78

Heisman
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I’m not sure I agree they need a top 5 guy. To me, it matters what Pope does on the court. I respect that opinions can differ on it. I just wanted to encourage those who might be down about it. A reminder that, Hey! We are going to be good with Pope without Wilson!
Yes pope is doing well with what he has and what he has is something different than we are used to. But what we have to remind ourselves is pope and his staff have put a LOT of time and resources into this recruitment. So clearly he thinks Wilson is a big get and a big need. If we are gonna trust the head man we have to fully trust him. It’s ok to be let down if wilson slips away
 

Tayshaun4Three

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Yes pope is doing well with what he has and what he has is something different than we are used to. But what we have to remind ourselves is pope and his staff have put a LOT of time and resources into this recruitment. So clearly he thinks Wilson is a big get and a big need. If we are gonna trust the head man we have to fully trust him. It’s ok to be let down if wilson slips away
Agreed. I think it can both be true that Pope values him and that isn’t a big deal to miss.
 
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yoshukai

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Yes pope is doing well with what he has and what he has is something different than we are used to. But what we have to remind ourselves is pope and his staff have put a LOT of time and resources into this recruitment. So clearly he thinks Wilson is a big get and a big need. If we are gonna trust the head man we have to fully trust him. It’s ok to be let down if wilson slips away
All true. That’s why I’ve always said, “if CMP wants him , I want him” . Even though I thought a 4 man that was at least a threat as a three point shooter was a better fit .