CAIR wants Franklin Graham stopped from delivering the Inauguration prayer

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Think Trump will heed's CAIR's warning?

I've got an idea. To stop the haggling about who gets to say the prayer, let's just not have a prayer.

BTW, has anyone noticed that Trump isn't doing the "God Bless you, and may God Bless the United States of America" stuff at the end of his speech like Obama and so many other politicians? I guess he's not all bad.
 

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I've got an idea. To stop the haggling about who gets to say the prayer, let's just not have a prayer.

BTW, has anyone noticed that Trump isn't doing the "God Bless you, and may God Bless the United States of America" stuff at the end of his speech like Obama and so many other politicians? I guess he's not all bad.

Since you are in the vast minority in this country, I think Trump will ignore your advice much like he will ignore CAIR's advice. I've still never understood your hatred of religion.

Why not try to be a kind, tolerant, thoughtful atheist? You'll live a happier life.
 
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Yeah, when you got nothing else, throw out the racist card. Ask 2007 to join you. You are an idiot.

LOL. Throw out the racist card? That's the Dem strategy since the 80's. I've proven your a racist. White thought plantation owner for blacks.
 
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LOL. Throw out the racist card? That's the Dem strategy since the 80's. I've proven your a racist. White thought plantation owner for blacks.

You have not proven I'm a racist. And it's "you're" not your.
So go ahead and tell us how you have "proven" I'm a racist.
 

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Since you are in the vast minority in this country, I think Trump will ignore your advice much like he will ignore CAIR's advice. I've still never understood your hatred of religion.

Why not try to be a kind, tolerant, thoughtful atheist? You'll live a happier life.

I'm kinder, more tolerant and more thoughtful than most people, likely including you. But at the same time I understand mixing church and politics is a bad thing, as 9/11 and many other events showed. Politicians pushing religion is a bad thing and although I liked Obama on the whole I cringed every single time he closed his speech with that BS, knowing that it's a toxic brew he's fooling with. I'm not kidding when I say it's refreshing to see Trump just end his speeches without feeling the need to veer into theology.
 

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You have not proven I'm a racist. And it's "you're" not your.
So go ahead and tell us how you have "proven" I'm a racist.

Read my many posts on your overt racism. I'll let the board decide if your thought plantation has been violated.
 

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I'm kinder, more tolerant and more thoughtful than most people, likely including you. But at the same time I understand mixing church and politics is a bad thing, as 9/11 and many other events showed. Politicians pushing religion is a bad thing and although I liked Obama on the whole I cringed every single time he closed his speech with that BS, knowing that it's a toxic brew he's fooling with. I'm not kidding when I say it's refreshing to see Trump just end his speeches without feeling the need to veer into theology.

So, in your mind, politicians must give up their religion? And you call yourself tolerant?

What was the motive of 9/11? Religion? Politics? Hatred of western values?

And a President can't offer his thoughts on his faith? Who made that decision? He can't thank a God he believes in? And you are tolerant? LMAO.

Your hatred of religion has blinded you to your intolerance. Why get upset if a President invokes God? It doesn't hurt you, you don't believe in God. So why does it bother you? He is free to express his opinion, right? Or have you decided that pesky First Amendment must be done away with. Tolerant indeed.
 
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Read my many posts on your overt racism. I'll let the board decide if your thought plantation has been violated.

Just because I disagree with someone doesn't make me a racist. Even if I think they are an idiot, it doesn't make me a racist. You really are intellectually juvenile.

If I think that a particular party or candidate cares more about minorities' interests, that's not being racist. Anyone on this board that will be intellectually honest with themselves knows deep in their heart that the Democratic party stands more for the interests of minorities.
 

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Since you are in the vast minority in this country, I think Trump will ignore your advice much like he will ignore CAIR's advice. I've still never understood your hatred of religion.

Why not try to be a kind, tolerant, thoughtful atheist? You'll live a happier life.
Do you consider atheists to be attackers of your religion?
 

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So, in your mind, politicians must give up their religion? And you call yourself tolerant?

What was the motive of 9/11? Religion? Politics? Hatred of western values?

And a President can't offer his thoughts on his faith? Who made that decision? He can't thank a God he believes in? And you are tolerant? LMAO.

Your hatred of religion has blinded you to your intolerance. Why get upset if a President invokes God? It doesn't hurt you, you don't believe in God. So why does it bother you? He is free to express his opinion, right? Or have you decided that pesky First Amendment must be done away with. Tolerant indeed.

No, they don't have to give up their religion, they just have to stop using it as a political tool. Aside from it being bad in general, I hope you also realize that when it can be used as a tool like that some people will use it falsely. Obama did the "God bless" thing all the time but it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't believe at all and I doubt Trump believes. I don't really care if they believe but just don't mix it with politics.

One of the main motivations for 9/11 was religion. Of that I have no doubt.
 

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So, in your mind, politicians must give up their religion? And you call yourself tolerant?

What was the motive of 9/11? Religion? Politics? Hatred of western values?

And a President can't offer his thoughts on his faith? Who made that decision? He can't thank a God he believes in? And you are tolerant? LMAO.

Your hatred of religion has blinded you to your intolerance. Why get upset if a President invokes God? It doesn't hurt you, you don't believe in God. So why does it bother you? He is free to express his opinion, right? Or have you decided that pesky First Amendment must be done away with. Tolerant indeed.
Let's not get crazy now. How many people are advocating that the President not use "god bless the United States"?

I think atheists would just feel more represented if Christianity didn't have so much of a presence.
 

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nyone on this board that will be intellectually honest with themselves knows deep in their heart that the Democratic party stands more for the interests of minorities.
Hhahahahahhaa

Maybe the minority politicians. The rest only care about the votes and I'm not ruling out the same for the minority politicians.
 

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Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)

https://www.cair.com/



 

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Just because I disagree with someone doesn't make me a racist. Even if I think they are an idiot, it doesn't make me a racist. You really are intellectually juvenile.

If I think that a particular party or candidate cares more about minorities' interests, that's not being racist. Anyone on this board that will be intellectually honest with themselves knows deep in their heart that the Democratic party stands more for the interests of minorities.

No, most atheists I know don't care at all about a President saying God Bless America. Or thanking God in some way. OP2 seems upset, genuinely upset. Not sure why. It is a First Amendment right, most people are not offended. And he calls himself tolerant which I find interesting.
 

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No, most atheists I know don't care at all about a President saying God Bless America. Or thanking God in some way. OP2 seems upset, genuinely upset. Not sure why. It is a First Amendment right, most people are not offended. And he calls himself tolerant which I find interesting.
I do wish we could take it off the money
 

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VISION AND MISSION
CAIR's vision is to be a leading advocate for justice and mutual understanding.

CAIR's mission is to enhance understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding.

CORE PRINCIPLES
  1. CAIR supports free enterprise, freedom of religion and freedom of expression.
  2. CAIR is committed to protecting the civil rights of all Americans, regardless of faith.
  3. CAIR supports domestic policies that promote civil rights, diversity and freedom of religion.
  4. CAIR opposes domestic policies that limit civil rights, permit racial, ethnic or religious profiling, infringe on due process, or that prevent Muslims and others from participating fully in American civic life.
  5. CAIR is a natural ally of groups, religious or secular, that advocate justice and human rights in America and around the world.
  6. CAIR supports foreign policies that help create free and equitable trade, encourage human rights and promote representative government based on socio-economic justice.
  7. CAIR believes the active practice of Islam strengthens the social and religious fabric of our nation.
  8. CAIR condemns all acts of violence against civilians by any individual, group or state.
  9. CAIR advocates dialogue between faith communities both in America and worldwide.
  10. CAIR supports equal and complementary rights and responsibilities for men and women.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is a grassroots civil rights and advocacy group. CAIR is America's largest Muslim civil liberties organization, with regional offices nationwide. CAIR's national headquarters are on Capitol Hill in Washington D.C.

Since its establishment in 1994, CAIR has worked to promote a positive image of Islam and Muslims in America. Through media relations, government relations, education and advocacy, CAIR puts forth an Islamic perspective to ensure the Muslim voice is represented. In offering this perspective, CAIR seeks to empower the American Muslim community and encourage their participation in political and social activism.
 

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No, they don't have to give up their religion, they just have to stop using it as a political tool. Aside from it being bad in general, I hope you also realize that when it can be used as a tool like that some people will use it falsely. Obama did the "God bless" thing all the time but it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't believe at all and I doubt Trump believes. I don't really care if they believe but just don't mix it with politics.

One of the main motivations for 9/11 was religion. Of that I have no doubt.

Who cares if Obama is sincere or not, it is his right. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it wrong. You claimed tolerance, but you are completely intolerant on this issue.

You live in a free country. You can say what you wish. Others can say what they wish. Who cares about the use of a political tool. Let the people decide if the President is sincere or not. If you don't like a President invoking God, don't vote for him or her. It's your choice.

As for 9/11, I agree that it was a Muslim attack on the U.S. and was partly religious, even though Christians, Jews and Muslims were killed in the attack. I also think it was political based on U.S. involvement in the Middle East and hatred of Western values such as gay rights, women's rights, etc.
 

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http://www.meforum.org/916/cair-islamists-fooling-the-establishment

CAIR: Islamists Fooling the Establishment

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), headquartered in Washington, is perhaps the best-known and most controversial Muslim organization in North America. CAIR presents itself as an advocate for Muslims' civil rights and the spokesman for American Muslims. "We are similar to a Muslim NAACP," says its communications director, Ibrahim Hooper.[1] Its official mission—"to enhance understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding"[2]—suggests nothing problematic.

Starting with a single office in 1994, CAIR now claims thirty-one affiliates, including a branch in Canada, with more steadily being added. In addition to its grand national headquarters in Washington, it has impressive offices in other cities; the New York office, for example, is housed in the 19-story Interchurch Center located on Manhattan's Riverside Drive.

But there is another side to CAIR that has alarmed many people in positions to know. The Department of Homeland Security refuses to deal with it. Senator Charles Schumer (Democrat, New York) describes it as an organization "which we know has ties to terrorism."[3]Senator Dick Durbin (Democrat, Illinois) observes that CAIR is "unusual in its extreme rhetoric and its associations with groups that are suspect."[4]Steven Pomerantz, the FBI's former chief of counterterrorism, notes that "CAIR, its leaders, and its activities effectively give aid to international terrorist groups."[5]The family of John P. O'Neill, Sr., the former FBI counterterrorism chief who perished at the World Trade Center, named CAIR in a lawsuit as having "been part of the criminal conspiracy of radical Islamic terrorism"[6] responsible for the September 11 atrocities. Counterterrorism expert Steven Emerson calls it "a radical fundamentalist front group for Hamas."[7]

Of particular note are the American Muslims who reject CAIR's claim to speak on their behalf. The late Seifeldin Ashmawy, publisher of the New Jersey-based Voice of Peace, called CAIR the champion of "extremists whose views do not represent Islam."[8]Jamal Hasan of the Council for Democracy and Tolerance explains that CAIR's goal is to spread "Islamic hegemony the world over by hook or by crook."[9] Kamal Nawash, head of Free Muslims Against Terrorism, finds that CAIR and similar groups condemn terrorism on the surface while endorsing an ideology that helps foster extremism, adding that "almost all of their members are theocratic Muslims who reject secularism and want to establish Islamic states."[10] Tashbih Sayyedof the Council for Democracy and Tolerance calls CAIR "the most accomplished fifth column" in the United States.[11] And Stephen Schwartz of the Center on Islamic Pluralism writes that "CAIR should be considered a foreign-based subversive organization, comparable in the Islamist field to the Soviet-controlled Communist Party, USA."[12]

CAIR, for its part, dismisses all criticism, blaming negative comments on "Muslim bashers" who "can never point to something CAIR has done in its 10-year history that is objectionable."[13]Actually, there is much about the organization's history that is objectionable—and it is readily apparent to anyone who bothers to look.
 

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I do wish we could take it off the money

Why? This country was founded on Judeo/Christian principles. That is history and as a result is found on our currency. You can hate our history. You can hate God. But you can't change history.
 

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Terrorists in Its Midst
Perhaps the most obvious problem with CAIR is the fact that at least five of its employees and board members have been arrested, convicted, deported, or otherwise linked to terrorism-related charges and activities.

Randall ("Ismail") Royer, an American convert to Islam, served as CAIR's communications specialist and civil rights coordinator; today he sits in jail on terrorism-related charges. In June 2003, Royer and ten other young men, ages 23 to 35, known as the "Virginia jihad group," were indicted on forty-one counts of "conspiracy to train for and participate in a violent jihad overseas." The defendants, nine of them U.S. citizens, were accused of association with Lashkar-e-Taiba, a radical Islamic group designated as a foreign terrorist organization by the U.S. Department of State in 2001. They were also accused of meeting covertly in private homes and at the Islamic Center in Falls Church to prepare themselves for battle by listening to lectures and watching videotapes.[21]As the prosecutor noted, "Ten miles from Capitol Hill in the streets of northern Virginia, American citizens allegedly met, plotted, and recruited for violent jihad."[22]According to Matthew Epstein of the Investigative Project, Royer helped recruit the others to the jihad effort while he was working for CAIR. The group trained at firing ranges in Virginia and Pennsylvania; in addition, it practiced "small-unit military tactics" at a paintball war-games facility in Virginia, earning it the moniker, the "paintball jihadis."[23]Eventually members of the group traveled to Pakistan.

Five of the men indicted, including CAIR's Royer, were found to have had in their possession, according to the indictment, "AK-47-style rifles, telescopic lenses, hundreds of rounds of ammunition and tracer rounds, documents on undertaking jihad and martyrdom, [and] a copy of the terrorist handbook containing instructions on how to manufacture and use explosives and chemicals as weapons."[24]

After four of the eleven defendants pleaded guilty, the remaining seven, including Royer, were accused in a new, 32-count indictment of yet more serious charges: conspiring to help Al-Qaeda and the Taliban battle American troops in Afghanistan.[25]Royer admitted in his grand jury testimony that he had already waged jihad in Bosnia under a commander acting on orders from Osama bin Laden. Prosecutors also presented evidence that his father, Ramon Royer, had rented a room in his St. Louis-area home in 2000 to Ziyad Khaleel, the student who purchased the satellite phone used by Al-Qaeda in planning the two U.S. embassy bombings in East Africa in August 1998.[26]Royer eventually pleaded guilty to lesser firearms-related charges, and the former CAIR staffer was sentenced to twenty years in prison.[27]

A coda to the "Virginia jihad network" came in 2005 when a Federal court convicted another Virginia man, Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, of plotting to kill President Bush. Prosecutors alleged that Abu Ali participated in the Virginia jihad network's paintball games and perhaps supplied one of his fellow jihadists with an assault rifle.[28]Royer's possible role in Abu Ali's plans are unclear.

Ghassan Elashi, the founder of CAIR's Texas chapter, has a long history of funding terrorism. First, he was convicted in July 2004, with his four brothers, of having illegally shipped computers from their Dallas-area business, InfoCom Corporation, to two designated state-sponsors of terrorism, Libya and Syria.[29]Second, he and two brothers were convicted in April 2005 of knowingly doing business with Mousa Abu Marzook, a senior Hamas leader, whom the U.S. State Department had in 1995 declared a "specially designated terrorist." Elashi was convicted of all twenty-one counts with which he was charged, including conspiracy, money laundering, and dealing in the property of a designated terrorist.[30]Third, he was charged in July 2004 with providing more than $12.4 million to Hamas while he was running the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, America's largest Islamic charity.[31]When the U.S. government shuttered Holy Land Foundation in late 2001, CAIR characterized this move as "unjust" and "disturbing."[32]

Bassem Khafagi, an Egyptian native and CAIR's onetime community relations director, pleaded guilty in September 2003 to lying on his visa application and passing bad checks for substantial amounts in early 2001,[33]for which he was deported. CAIR claimed Khafagi was hired only after he had committed his crimes and that the organization was unaware of his wrongdoing.[34]But that is unconvincing, for a cursory background check reveals that Khafagi was a founding member and president of the Islamic Assembly of North America (IANA),[35]an organization under investigation by the U.S. Department of Justice for terrorism-related activities. CAIR surely knew that IANA under Khafagi was in the business of, as prosecutors stated in Idaho court papers, disseminating "radical Islamic ideology, the purpose of which was indoctrination, recruitment of members, and the instigation of acts of violence and terrorism."[36]

For example, IANA websites promoted the views of two Saudi preachers, Salman al-Awdah and Safar al-Hawali, well-known in Islamist circles for having been spiritual advisors to Osama bin Laden.[37]Under Khafagi's leadership, Matthew Epstein has testified, IANA hosted a conference at which a senior Al-Qaeda recruiter, Abdelrahman al-Dosari, was a speaker.[38]IANA disseminated publications advocating suicide attacks against the United States, according to federal investigators.[39]

Also, Khafagi was co-owner of a Sir Speedy printing franchise until 1998 with Rafil Dhafir, who was a former vice president of IANA and a Syracuse-area oncologist convicted in February 2005 of illegally sending money to Iraq during the Saddam Hussein regime as well as defrauding donors by using contributions to his "Help the Needy" charitable fund to avoid taxes and to purchase personal assets for himself. Dhafir was sentenced to twenty-two years in prison.[40]

Rabih Haddad, a CAIR fundraiser, was arrested in December 2001 on terrorism-related charges and deported from the United States due to his subsequent work as executive director of the Global Relief Foundation, a charity he cofounded[41]which was designated by the U.S. Treasury Department in October 2002 for financing Al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations.[42]

Siraj Wahhaj, a CAIR advisory board member, was named in 1995 by U.S. attorney Mary Jo White as a possible unindicted coconspirator in the plot to blow up New York City landmarks led by the blind sheikh, Omar Abdul Rahman. In defense of having Wahhaj on its advisory board, CAIR described him as "one of the most respected Muslim leaders in America."[43]In October 2004, he spoke at a CAIR dinner.

This roster of employees and board members connected to terrorism makes one wonder how CAIR remains an acceptable guest at U.S. government events—and even more so, how U.S. law enforcement agencies continue to associate with it.
 

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Links to Hamas
CAIR has a number of links to the terror organization Hamas, starting with the founder of its Texas chapter, Ghassan Elashi, as noted above.

Secondly, Elashi and another CAIR founder, Omar Ahmad, attended a key meeting in Philadelphia in 1993. An FBI memo characterizes this meeting as a planning session for Hamas, Holy Land Foundation, and Islamic Association of Palestine to find ways to disrupt Israeli-Palestinian diplomacy and raise money for Hamas in the United States.[44]The Philadelphia meeting was deemed such strong proof of Islamic Association of Palestine's relation to Hamas that a federal judge in Chicago in December 2004 ruled theIslamic Association of Palestinepartially liable for US$156 million in damages(along with the Holy Land Foundation and Mohammad Salah, a Hamas operative)[45]for having aided and abetted the Hamas murder of David Boim, an American citizen.[46]

Third, CAIR's founding personnel were closely linked to the Islamic Association of Palestine, which was founded by Ibrahim Abu Marzook, a senior Hamas operative and husband of Elashi's cousin; according toEpstein, the Islamic Association of Palestine functions as Hamas's public relations and recruitment arm in the United States.[47]The two individuals who established CAIR,AhmadandNihad Awad, had been, respectively, the president and public relations director of the Islamic Association of Palestine. Hooper, CAIR's director of communications,had been an employee of the Islamic Association of Palestine.[48]Rafeeq Jabar, president of the Islamic Association of Palestine, was a founding director of CAIR.

Fourth, the Holy Land Foundation, which the U.S. government has charged with funneling funds to Hamas, provided CAIR with some of its start-up funding in 1994. (See $5,000 money transfer, figure 1.) In the other direction,according to Joe Kaufman, CAIR sent potential donors to the Holy Land Foundation's website when they clicked on their post-September 11 weblink, "Donate to the NY/DC Disaster Relief Fund."[49]

Fifth, Awad publicly declared his enthusiasm for Hamas at Barry University in Florida in 1994: "I'm in support of Hamas movement more than the PLO." As an attorney pointed out in the course of deposing Awad for the Boim case, Awad both supported Hamas and acknowledged an awareness of its involvement in violence.[50]
 

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Apologizing for Islamist Terrorism
CAIR has consistently shown itself to be on the wrong side of the war on terrorism, protecting, defending, and supporting both accused and even convicted radical Islamic terrorists.

In October 1998—months after Osama bin Laden had issued hisfirst declaration of waragainst the United States and had been named as the chief suspect in the bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa—CAIRdemandedthe removal of a Los Angeles billboard describing Osama bin Laden as "the sworn enemy," finding this depiction offensive to Muslims. CAIR also leapt to bin Laden's defense, denying his responsibility for the twin East African embassy bombings. CAIR's Hooper saw these explosions resulting from "misunderstandings of both sides."[57]Even after the September 11 atrocity, CAIR continued to protect bin Laden, stating only that "if [note the "if"] Osama bin Laden was behind it, we condemn him by name."[58]Not until December 2001, when bin Laden on videotape boasted of his involvement in the attack, did CAIR finally acknowledge his role.

CAIR has also consistently defended other radical Islamic terrorists. Rather than praise the conviction of the perpetrators of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, it deemed this "a travesty of justice."[59]It labeled the extradition order for suspected Hamas terrorist Mousa Abu Marzook "anti-Islamic" and "anti-American."[60]CAIR hasco-sponsoredYvonne Ridley, the British convert to Islam who became a Taliban enthusiast and a denier that Al-Qaeda was involved in 9-11.[61]When four U.S. civilian contractors in Falluja were (in CAIR's words) "ambushed in their SUV's, burned, mutilated, dragged through the streets, and then hung from a bridge spanning the Euphrates River," CAIR[62]

During the 2005trial of Sami Al-Arian, accused of heading Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the United States, Ahmed Bedier of CAIR's Florida branch emerged as Al-Arian's effective spokesman, providing sound bytes to the media, trying to get his trial moved out of Tampa, commenting on the jury selection, and so on.[63]

More broadly,TheReligionofPeace.comwebsite pointed out that "of the more than 3100 fatal Islamic terror attacks committed in the last four years, we have only seen CAIR specifically condemn 18."[64]
 

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The United Arab Emirates' ministerial cabinet had listed the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) as one of 83 proscribed terrorist organizations, up there with the Taliban, al-Qaeda, and ISIS.
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No, most atheists I know don't care at all about a President saying God Bless America. Or thanking God in some way. OP2 seems upset, genuinely upset. Not sure why. It is a First Amendment right, most people are not offended. And he calls himself tolerant which I find interesting.

It's because he's afraid he's got it all wrong.
 

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http://freedomoutpost.com/dhs-hires-designated-terrorist-group-cair-to-train-french-officials/

For those who question how deeply compromised our intel and national security agencies are under President Hussein Obama, one need not look past this news story.

The Council of American Islamic relations is a notorious terror-tied group, named as a Muslim Brotherhood front and unintended co-conspirator in the nation’s largest terrorist funding trial. Their prosecution was scuttled by Obama’s Department of justice. CAIR was named a terrorist entity by the UAE. We expect President-elect Trump to right that wrong.
 

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I've got an idea. To stop the haggling about who gets to say the prayer, let's just not have a prayer.

BTW, has anyone noticed that Trump isn't doing the "God Bless you, and may God Bless the United States of America" stuff at the end of his speech like Obama and so many other politicians? I guess he's not all bad.
Heres an idea. *** you and your atheist horseshit.
 

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Anyone on this board that will be intellectually honest with themselves knows deep in their heart that the Democratic party stands more for the interests of minorities.

Absolute baloney. Democrats want a subculture dependent upon the government and their policies. That guarantees votes. I theorize more Democrats are racist, including possibly you, thinking that certain minority groups cannot stand in their own.

Democrat policies are racist.
 
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Why? This country was founded on Judeo/Christian principles. That is history and as a result is found on our currency. You can hate our history. You can hate God. But you can't change history.

They didn't even place "in god we trust" on coins until 1864 and on paper currency until 1957.

Most laws in this country reflect the Ten Commandments like they do in many countries. This country was founded for both freedom to practice religion and freedom to not practice it as clearly evidenced in the First Amendment. Europeans fled religious persecution from the Church of England. You should study up on your history.
 

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"In God We Trust" is the official motto of the United States.

It was adopted as the nation's motto in 1956 as an alternative or replacement to the unofficial motto of E pluribus unum, which was adopted when the Great Seal of the United States was created and adopted in 1782.

An Act of Congress passed on March 3, 1865, allowed the Mint Director, with the Secretary's approval, to place the motto on all gold and silver coins that "shall admit the inscription thereon". In 1873, Congress passed the Coinage Act, granting that the Secretary of the Treasury "may cause the motto IN GOD WE TRUST to be inscribed on such coins as shall admit of such motto".

A law passed in a Joint Resolution by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by President Dwight Eisenhower on July 30, 1956 declared IN GOD WE TRUST must appear on currency.

The phrase appears to have originated in "The Star-Spangled Banner", written during the War of 1812. The fourth stanza includes the phrase, "And this be our motto: 'In God is our Trust.'" This version of the motto made an early appearance on the twenty dollar interest bearing notes issued in 1864 along with the motto "God and our Right".

During the Cold War era, the government of the United States sought to distinguish itself from the Soviet Union, which promoted state atheism and thus implemented antireligious legislation. The84th Congress passed a joint resolution "declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States". The law was signed by President Eisenhower on July 30, 1956. The United States Code at36 U.S.C.§ 302, now states: "'In God we trust' is the national motto."

In Judaism and Christianity, the official motto "In God We Trust" resounds with several verses from the Bible, including Psalm 118:8,Psalm 40:3,Psalm 73:28, and Proverbs 29:25. In Islam the word for the concept of reliance on God is called Tawakkul; the phrase "In God We Trust" is found in two places of the Koran, in Surah 10 Yunus, as well as Surah 7 Al-A'raf, although several other verses reinforce this concept. Melkote Ramaswamy, a Hindu American scholar, writes that the presence of the phrase "In God We Trust" on American currency is a reminder that "there is God everywhere, whether we are conscious or not."
 

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Why? This country was founded on Judeo/Christian principles. That is history and as a result is found on our currency. You can hate our history. You can hate God. But you can't change history.
Get over yourself will you