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She is literally greater than the WNBA, in its historic entirety. She had 37 points and 10 assists yesterday. That's her 5th game with 30 points and 10 assists. In so doing, she now has more games with at least 30 points and 10 assists than any other player in WNBA history. Combined. That's a staggering statistic. Add to that, she's only in her 3rd season and missed most of last season. No wonder they hate her guts.

In comparison to the NBA, Oscar Robinson is the leader with 227 games.
 
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Come on 18 and Lurker, you can't claim a lack of interest in the WNBA and crow when Caitlin has a good game. I see you omitted the NY game just the day before where Caitlin flopped in the final seconds looking for a call, had a brief tantrum and fouled the Liberty (who were only up one possession), and then choked off two free throws when she got to the line to essentially hand the Liberty the game. The game is more than stats. Russell Westbrook leads the NBA in Triple Doubles by a lot. Will be a Hall of Famer. However, no one would ever mistake him as the greatest player in NBA History. Dislike basketball if you must, but don't check in and check out based on the player you like having a good game.
 
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Come on 18 and Lurker, you can't claim a lack of interest in the WNBA and crow when Caitlin has a good game. I see you omitted the NY game just the day before where Caitlin flopped in the final seconds looking for a call, had a brief tantrum and fouled the Liberty (who were only up one possession), and then choked off two free throws when she got to the line to essentially hand the Liberty the game. The game is more than stats. Russell Westbrook leads the NBA in Triple Doubles by a lot. Will be a Hall of Famer. However, no one would ever mistake him as the greatest player in NBA History. Dislike basketball if you must, but don't check in and check out based on the player you like having a good game.

Who had post #3 for adcoop telling people what they are and arent allowed to like or post about?

Ill admit, I had post #6 or after.

Have you talked to a Dr yet cop? Early intervention can help improve the quality of life for your remaining years.
 
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18IsTheMan

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Come on 18 and Lurker, you can't claim a lack of interest in the WNBA and crow when Caitlin has a good game. I see you omitted the NY game just the day before where Caitlin flopped in the final seconds looking for a call, had a brief tantrum and fouled the Liberty (who were only up one possession), and then choked off two free throws when she got to the line to essentially hand the Liberty the game. The game is more than stats. Russell Westbrook leads the NBA in Triple Doubles by a lot. Will be a Hall of Famer. However, no one would ever mistake him as the greatest player in NBA History. Dislike basketball if you must, but don't check in and check out based on the player you like having a good game.

I neither like nor dislike Caitlin Clark. That's actually an improvement. I was pretty anti-Clark when she was in college b/c of all the "She's better than Pistol Pete" kind of nonsense. The fact that everyone in the WNBA hates her so much moved the needle from dislike to neutral. Nevertheless, you have to admit it's pretty astounding that she has more 30/10 games than all other WNBA players ever combined.
 

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She is literally greater than the WNBA, in its historic entirety. She had 37 points and 10 assists yesterday. That's her 5th game with 30 points and 10 assists. In so doing, she now has more games with at least 30 points and 10 assists than any other player in WNBA history. Combined. That's a staggering statistic. Add to that, she's only in her 3rd season and missed most of last season. No wonder they hate her guts.

In comparison to the NBA, Oscar Robinson is the leader with 227 games.

I think this is a great post 18. It really underscores the insanity of the ?nba hating a player that they should be promoting.

Causing coop to cry is just an added bonus.
 

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I think this is a great post 18. It really underscores the insanity of the ?nba hating a player that they should be promoting.

Causing coop to cry is just an added bonus.

It's kind of a bonkers stat. Not just the most ever. The most of every player who has ever played, combined.

I think the ?NBA (love that by the way and will be using it from now on!) feels handcuffed. She is, hands down, the most popular player in the league. Still not sure of any other players for which hosting teams have to move to larger venues when they come to town. She's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than Angel Reese, but somehow Reese got the cover of the ?NBA video game. Nobody shows up to watch Reese play. When Clark came to town, they nearly tripled their attendance and had to get a larger arena.

BUT, Clark does not check the demographic boxes the ?NBA wants to promote. It's a dilemma for them.
 
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It's kind of a bonkers stat. Not just the most ever. The most of every player who has ever played, combined.

BUT, Clark does not check the demographic boxes the ?NBA wants to promote. It's a dilemma for them.


I missed the combined part, that makes it even more bonkers.

But you hit the nail on the head with that last statement. Its all about checking the right boxes, and clark doesn't do that.

Imho, you ride whatever gets you more popular, even if shes white and straight. Smile, nod and start cashing those bigger checks.

Maybe worry about running undesirables out of the league when it can stand on its own, and not have to be propped up by another league.
 
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I neither like nor dislike Caitlin Clark. That's actually an improvement. I was pretty anti-Clark when she was in college b/c of all the "She's better than Pistol Pete" kind of nonsense. The fact that everyone in the WNBA hates her so much moved the needle from dislike to neutral. Nevertheless, you have to admit it's pretty astounding that she has more 30/10 games than all other WNBA players ever combined.
Yes, it is a bonkers stat. However, Caitlin will be compared to the All-Time Greats. So her value will be judged in the playoffs against the elite teams not in games against 15-22 teams that are playing the rest of the season out. You guys think I am against Caitlin which is the farthest from the truth. I actually am super hard on her because I want her to win because when she wins the 4 South Carolina Gamecocks on her team wins. I am more against Caitlin stans that are really not into basketball. They care about all this political non-sense that has nothing to do with the game. Don't just crow about one good shooting night. Worry about what I see is the upcoming playoff match-up between Caitlin and the Fever vs your hate avatar (Angel Reese) and the Atlanta Dream. They are tied in the standings at 25-14 and are looking like they are going to be the 4-5 matchup in the playoffs.
 

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Yes, it is a bonkers stat. However, Caitlin will be compared to the All-Time Greats. So her value will be judged in the playoffs against the elite teams not in games against 15-22 teams that are playing the rest of the season out. You guys think I am against Caitlin which is the farthest from the truth. I actually am super hard on her because I want her to win because when she wins the 4 South Carolina Gamecocks on her team wins. I am more against Caitlin stans that are really not into basketball. They care about all this political non-sense that has nothing to do with the game. Don't just crow about one good shooting night. Worry about what I see is the upcoming playoff match-up between Caitlin and the Fever vs your hate avatar (Angel Reese) and the Atlanta Dream. They are tied in the standings at 25-14 and are looking like they are going to be the 4-5 matchup in the playoffs.

The political nonsense is what has driven the visibility of the league more than anything else though. The manufactured race war b/w Reese and Clark, players demanding to be paid their worth in a league that has never turned a profit, a seemingly league-sanctioned hit on Clark, etc. As another poster on here noted, it's really kind of like WWF wrestling back in the day. It was all about the personalities and sideshow stuff more than the wrestling.
 

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The political nonsense is what has driven the visibility of the league more than anything else though. The manufactured race war b/w Reese and Clark, players demanding to be paid their worth in a league that has never turned a profit, a seemingly league-sanctioned hit on Clark, etc. As another poster on here noted, it's really kind of like WWF wrestling back in the day. It was all about the personalities and sideshow stuff more than the wrestling.
....and as I have said before, the league will not sustain itself based on the sideshow of political non-sense. At some point, it's going to have to be about the basketball or whatever success the league is having is temporary.
 
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....and as I have said before, the league will not sustain itself based on the sideshow of political non-sense. At some point, it's going to have to be about the basketball or whatever success the league is having is temporary.

Im sorry, I'm trying not to pick on you, with your obvious mental issues, etc.

But the league is 30 years old, and your comment that at some point, its going to have to be about the basketball is spot on. If that doesnt demonstrate what a joke the ?nba is, I dont know what does.
 

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The political nonsense is what has driven the visibility of the league more than anything else though. The manufactured race war b/w Reese and Clark, players demanding to be paid their worth in a league that has never turned a profit, a seemingly league-sanctioned hit on Clark, etc. As another poster on here noted, it's really kind of like WWF wrestling back in the day. It was all about the personalities and sideshow stuff more than the wrestling.

The political nonsense is really all they have.

Without that sort of nonsense, where would the league be?
 

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Im sorry, I'm trying not to pick on you, with your obvious mental issues, etc.

But the league is 30 years old, and your comment that at some point, its going to have to be about the basketball is spot on. If that doesnt demonstrate what a joke the ?nba is, I dont know what does.
Mental Issues. You are so funny, young man. You are the one arguing with me on a message board about a sport that you say you don't care about. You try to come off all hard, but the truth is that you are a dweeb that played soccer, a sport that the guys that can't play anything else end up playing. I didn't want to go there, but you try to play hard on the internet and are probably a guy that's 5 foot nothing, 190 lbs that can't beat anyone in any athletic endeavor.
 

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Mental Issues. You are so funny, young man. You are the one arguing with me on a message board about a sport that you say you don't care about. You try to come off all hard, but the truth is that you are a dweeb that played soccer, a sport that the guys that can't play anything else end up playing. I didn't want to go there, but you try to play hard on the internet and are probably a guy 5 foot nothing, 190 lbs that can't beat anyone in any athletic endeavor.

If youre going to make up lies, you should at least go for something more entertaining. That was as weak as trying to brag about playing highschool 2A basketball as your crowning athletic achievement. :) But it does make me happy to see you flail about like that. What's the saying about hit dogs howling??

And yes, mental issues. Have you talked to a Dr yet? Early intervention can help improve the quality of life for your remaining years.
 
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She is literally greater than the WNBA, in its historic entirety. She had 37 points and 10 assists yesterday. That's her 5th game with 30 points and 10 assists. In so doing, she now has more games with at least 30 points and 10 assists than any other player in WNBA history. Combined. That's a staggering statistic. Add to that, she's only in her 3rd season and missed most of last season. No wonder they hate her guts.

In comparison to the NBA, Oscar Robinson is the leader with 227 games.
She is also the only the second leading scorer on her own team, and leads the league in turnovers.
 

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The political nonsense is what has driven the visibility of the league more than anything else though. The manufactured race war b/w Reese and Clark, players demanding to be paid their worth in a league that has never turned a profit, a seemingly league-sanctioned hit on Clark, etc. As another poster on here noted, it's really kind of like WWF wrestling back in the day. It was all about the personalities and sideshow stuff more than the wrestling.
funny how you keep bringing up the WNBA, college football can't get here soon enough.
 
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She is literally greater than the WNBA, in its historic entirety. She had 37 points and 10 assists yesterday. That's her 5th game with 30 points and 10 assists. In so doing, she now has more games with at least 30 points and 10 assists than any other player in WNBA history. Combined. That's a staggering statistic. Add to that, she's only in her 3rd season and missed most of last season. No wonder they hate her guts.

In comparison to the NBA, Oscar Robinson is the leader with 227 games.
Oh, and I guess you can say Angel Reese is > than the WNBA. She set two records last night, most rebounds in a game with 26, and most rebounds in a season - with seven games still to go. Please also remember, comparing NBA to WNBA game and season statistics is meaningless, as the NBA has 82 games of 48 minutes compared to 44 games and 40 minutes.

But being the big women's sports fan, I'm sure you knew that...
 

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Clark is a great player—one of the best, if not the best, ever.

That’s the bottom line. It doesn’t need qualifiers, caveats, addendums, or footnotes attached to it.
 
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I was watching a Fever game the other night. It was the middle of the 3rd quarter and the announcers were gushing over Kelsey Mitchell how she was dominating the game and was sitting on 20 points. Then one announcer quietly said, "Oh, Caitlin Clark has 26."

Caitlin ended up with 37.
 
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I was watching a Fever game the other night. It was the middle of the 3rd quarter and the announcers were gushing over Kelsey Mitchell how she was dominating the game and was sitting on 20 points. Then one announcer quietly said, "Oh, Caitlin Clark has 26."

Caitlin ended up with 37.
Kelsey Mitchell is leading the team in scoring. Caitlin leads the league in turnovers. Basketball is more than shooting logo threes.
 

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Kelsey Mitchell is leading the team in scoring. Caitlin leads the league in turnovers. Basketball is more than shooting logo threes.
Magic Johnson has the second highest turnovers per game in NBA history, missing the top slot by less than half a turnover per game.

Basketball also includes assists. Might want to check those out too.
 

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clark can be great but sometimes she has tendency to over dribble and run clock too low leaving her and team little time to work with. she still has problems on d, it's not her priority. People like her aren't coming to play for dawn, but she really needs a dawn to teach her d, the footwork is not there, even the basis of understanding d. Best o player w/o doubt, but if they r to win champ her d has to improve. boston has improved overall yr by yr ,Clark needs that next step with d to get to champ round, yes she has other talent @ her to get there. Damn I hated her at Iowa, but I pull fordream with usc connections
 

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Oh, and I guess you can say Angel Reese is > than the WNBA. She set two records last night, most rebounds in a game with 26, and most rebounds in a season - with seven games still to go. Please also remember, comparing NBA to WNBA game and season statistics is meaningless, as the NBA has 82 games of 48 minutes compared to 44 games and 40 minutes.

But being the big women's sports fan, I'm sure you knew that...
She also leads in missed layups.
 

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It's amazing how many people keep up with the individual performances of WNBA players- who don't pay the WNBA any attention. :cool:
 

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The political nonsense is what has driven the visibility of the league more than anything else though. The manufactured race war b/w Reese and Clark, players demanding to be paid their worth in a league that has never turned a profit, a seemingly league-sanctioned hit on Clark, etc. As another poster on here noted, it's really kind of like WWF wrestling back in the day. It was all about the personalities and sideshow stuff more than the wrestling.
This is it. FOX has to manufacture this kind of stuff and they’re doing it pretty well. My 85 year old aunt, who cares NOTHING about sports, told me all about how Clark is being mistreated by “all those other girls”:). Well done FOX!!:).
 

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This is it. FOX has to manufacture this kind of stuff and they’re doing it pretty well. My 85 year old aunt, who cares NOTHING about sports, told me all about how Clark is being mistreated by “all those other girls”:). Well done FOX!!:).

That's hilarious. Just shows you what that can do to people to cause them to focus on something they aren't interested in. My dad is like that since he retired. He use to hate politics- wouldn't discuss it. I remember once 20 or so years ago I had told him I was listening to some political talk show on the radio and he warned me about listening to such things.

Now, as he is retired, Fox is on at his house all the time. Every evening he sits and watches it until he falls asleep. The thing is, he calls me up sometimes and is really angry about something he heard on Fox and I've told him he needs to not be watching that stuff as it's designed to make him mad and they aren't telling him both sides. He knows that, but he's addicted to it. Many nights I will text him and tell him about some show (not news or politics related) on another channel that I am watching hoping he will turn it and watch it-and sometimes he does.

I go to an "old time" barbershop in a small town. The two guys there (both in their late 60s) always have on Fox News.

Every time I am there, they are always talking about whatever Fox is talking about. Doesn't matter the issue, doesn't matter if it relates to them in any way. I haven't been in there when Fox was talking about the WNBA though so I can't comment on that.

The thing is, they are usually talking to each other about it, not to customers. Course, customers will speak up and talk too sometimes but they both seem more concerned with what the other is saying than what customers are saying, but they remind me of a married couple talking back to the tv. It's actually pretty amusing.
  • Pew Research Center (2025): Reports a median age of 55 for adults who regularly get news from Fox News, compared to the U.S. adult median of 47
  • Nielsen ratings & media analysis: Prime‑time viewer median age is often cited as 65–69, with mean age estimates around 67–71
 
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This is it. FOX has to manufacture this kind of stuff and they’re doing it pretty well. My 85 year old aunt, who cares NOTHING about sports, told me all about how Clark is being mistreated by “all those other girls”:). Well done FOX!!:).


My propaganda is better than your propoganda!
 

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That's hilarious. Just shows you what that can do to people to cause them to focus on something they aren't interested in.

Is it anything like how your political party convinced you that men can get pregnant?
 
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