I keep seeing threads pop up on pay boards saying things like..
Just more message board BS or is something really different this year?
Can someone shed some light on what this means..
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I keep seeing threads pop up on pay boards saying things like..
Just more message board BS or is something really different this year?
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Not all of them, but a bunch. I suppose it's always been that way. And let's face it, there's a couple of things we're going to have to do to gain our "place" in college football. They are:
1) Overcome the odds against the Ole Miss's that will try to pull us down.
2) Overcome the odds against the SEC power players (cowbells, refs, etc.). Bottom 6 will always deal with this, until you become not one of the bottom 6.
3) Get donations way up ie expand the fanbase (which is happening). Get competitive in the facilities race. Pay good coaches, etc.
Just reality. Nobody's going to give it to us. The rebels and others will fight to the end to remain what they think is superior. Just have to beat them. Xenareb and Khayatt didn't bring us down in 2001 - we brought ourselves down, and that started at the top and had been years in the making.
1) Overcome the odds against the Ole Miss's that will try to pull us down.
2) Overcome the odds against the SEC power players (cowbells, refs, etc.). Bottom 6 will always deal with this, until you become not one of the bottom 6.
3) Get donations way up ie expand the fanbase (which is happening). Get competitive in the facilities race. Pay good coaches, etc.
Just reality. Nobody's going to give it to us. The rebels and others will fight to the end to remain what they think is superior. Just have to beat them. Xenareb and Khayatt didn't bring us down in 2001 - we brought ourselves down, and that started at the top and had been years in the making.
It's what comes with the territory when you peak your head out of the cellar.
With Croom no one gave a **** because they knew we were going to be terrible. With Mullen there is excitement and the possibility that we may not "accept our place".
There have been reports of untruths being spread on the recruiting scene. It's mostly MB fodder and generally all recruiting related. I would suggest to Mullen to make sure he covers his tracks because once we start winning there will be hounds all over the place trying to nail us.
The good thing is, Slive isn't going to let any of that BS happen like it did to Jackie. Everything is going to be handled within the SEC unless of course there is some huge incident that can't be and if that is the case then someone got sloppy.
With Croom no one gave a **** because they knew we were going to be terrible. With Mullen there is excitement and the possibility that we may not "accept our place".
There have been reports of untruths being spread on the recruiting scene. It's mostly MB fodder and generally all recruiting related. I would suggest to Mullen to make sure he covers his tracks because once we start winning there will be hounds all over the place trying to nail us.
The good thing is, Slive isn't going to let any of that BS happen like it did to Jackie. Everything is going to be handled within the SEC unless of course there is some huge incident that can't be and if that is the case then someone got sloppy.
anything past them. I won't say that they want to win more than us but I will say that they don't cope very well with not winning (or at least not being better than MSU). Spoiled, entitled, rich, arrogant, and lawyer is an ugly combination (see dickie scruggs). I have always said that their propaganda/smear machineis pretty impressive. From thetop to thebottom, theyallare given a job to do and they perform it. And with Mullen poking at them all the time, it only makes it worse.But I still say that ifwe pulled the **** that they do and still couldn't be any more successful than they are, I'd be pretty disappointed.
Well the competition in the SEC is not limited to the games. There is all kinds of back alley crap going on. I don't know if it's as bad as it used to be, but if we beat some teams that we are seen as not 'supposed to beat' a couple times in a row it will heat up.
It's easy to just blow it all off as conspiracy and MB fodder but just look back at the stuff that went down between Tennessee and Bama. Wasn't Phillip Fulmer an un-named informant to the NCAA? Or at least that is what the Bama folks were saying.
It's easy to just blow it all off as conspiracy and MB fodder but just look back at the stuff that went down between Tennessee and Bama. Wasn't Phillip Fulmer an un-named informant to the NCAA? Or at least that is what the Bama folks were saying.
Where does this 'lawyer' stereotype come from? We don't have all that large of a law school, and in my class (2009), at least 1/3rd went to State for undergrad.
I know its easy to vilify us (lawyers, not OM fans), but I'd have you know that we sully the reputation of both OM and State...
I know its easy to vilify us (lawyers, not OM fans), but I'd have you know that we sully the reputation of both OM and State...
The evil lawyer in the background pulling the strings stereotype probably comes from Scruggs. I don't know.
Plus nobody really likes dealing with Lawyers, your'e usually in a ****** spot if you have to hire a Lawyer. It's easy to vilify. Hard to make a Civil Engineer or Veterinarian out to be a bad guy. Which is why most OM folks like to stereotype State people as farmers.
Plus nobody really likes dealing with Lawyers, your'e usually in a ****** spot if you have to hire a Lawyer. It's easy to vilify. Hard to make a Civil Engineer or Veterinarian out to be a bad guy. Which is why most OM folks like to stereotype State people as farmers.
Prison Sissies aren't afraid to hide shivs in places even a cavity-search couldn't find. You face them down, they take the submissive pose, only to stick you between the ribs when you're not looking.
and I'm not talking the average Joe-blow OM fan. I'm talking about the OM PTB that have the influence to direct activities like what does and does not get out to the media, hiring of PIs to dig up dirt, getting JUCO transfer rules changed, etc. Now I don't know if it will be quite as bad now as it was when Khayat was running things over there but I would still be surprised at nothing. However, I will say that when Khayat was in place it was akin to pulling some lunatic fan straight out of the football stands to handle the politics between the 2 schools which just set up for a very bad situation all the way around. Most purely academic types that run schools don't tend to lower themselves into getting into athletic mudslinging contests.
and I'm not talking the average Joe-blow OM fan. I'm talking about the OM PTB that have the influence to direct activities like what does and does not get out to the media, hiring of PIs to dig up dirt, getting JUCO transfer rules changed, etc. Now I don't know if it will be quite as bad now as it was when Khayat was running things over there but I would still be surprised at nothing. However, I will say that when Khayat was in place it was akin to pulling some lunatic fan straight out of the football stands to handle the politics between the 2 schools which just set up for a very bad situation all the way around. Most purely academic types that run schools don't tend to lower themselves into getting into athletic mudslinging contests.
1. Don't we have a few women that would bang an NCAA investigator for the greater good like they did? I mean damn, Robbie Randolph is a charity case and he swears he got laid once while in school. Some women will step up
2. Can't we hire private eye's to watch for ****?
3. Don't we have some lawyers that graduated law school?
Some of you act like they are the only ones that can do any of this....
Mike Slive is in control- he is not about to let the NCAA start putting the SEC on probation again because of the millions of dollars being funneled in right now...and if one team goes down, more teams will because that team will start singing like a fat woman during church
2. Can't we hire private eye's to watch for ****?
3. Don't we have some lawyers that graduated law school?
Some of you act like they are the only ones that can do any of this....
Mike Slive is in control- he is not about to let the NCAA start putting the SEC on probation again because of the millions of dollars being funneled in right now...and if one team goes down, more teams will because that team will start singing like a fat woman during church
My sister's a State grad and a vet... hard to hate on someone who saves your dog.
You don't know how right you are regarding lawyers/clients. No person who steps foot in a lawyer's office is happy. They're either depressed over having lost someone or something, angry over some actual or perceived wrong, or, sometimes, just a little crazy. And then there are the criminals. Yea...
You don't know how right you are regarding lawyers/clients. No person who steps foot in a lawyer's office is happy. They're either depressed over having lost someone or something, angry over some actual or perceived wrong, or, sometimes, just a little crazy. And then there are the criminals. Yea...
we don't have as many alumni/booster types in political positions of power and, to be quite frank, I don't believe we have as many powerful boosters that really have that "win-at-all-costs" attitude. Maybe that's due to a longer legacy of mediocrity in football, I don't know, but I do believe that's the way it is.
When my sons were growing up and a kid would accuse them of something that they had not done, I would tell them, "We only suspect people of doing things that we would do ourselves."
I have been on compliance and competition committees at a couple of DII schools and have had regional meetings with my peers from DI schools over the years. Two of my best friends from college days (neither Ole Miss grads) are compliance personnel in the Pac10 and ACC, so I have heard tons of stories about beserk alums, but I have never heard stories about institutions trying to take down another school. They are usually too consumed trying to figure out a way to keep their own antics under control.
I don't doubt that there are crazy fans who try to stir up ****, but I doubt very seriously that it is highly organized, if it were every program on the planet would be on probation.
FWIW, I understand that JWS cheated at a couple of other schools, too.
I have been on compliance and competition committees at a couple of DII schools and have had regional meetings with my peers from DI schools over the years. Two of my best friends from college days (neither Ole Miss grads) are compliance personnel in the Pac10 and ACC, so I have heard tons of stories about beserk alums, but I have never heard stories about institutions trying to take down another school. They are usually too consumed trying to figure out a way to keep their own antics under control.
I don't doubt that there are crazy fans who try to stir up ****, but I doubt very seriously that it is highly organized, if it were every program on the planet would be on probation.
FWIW, I understand that JWS cheated at a couple of other schools, too.
willing to hire PIs to follow your rival's coaches and recruits around to dig up dirt and are also willing to sleep with NCAA investigators to further the cause what's not to believe? This is pretty well known stuff at this point.
I definitely am not putting all lawyers into the villain category. I have lawyer friends who are good as gold. The problem is that a dirty lawyer can do alot of damage and take advantage of others. And yes Scruggs would be the posterboy for "dirty lawyer".
But it would be foolish to say that some Rebel fans aren't afraid of the offense that kicked our *** in the EB last year. I'm not from the Spirit crowd, but I wouldn't be surprised to hear about that section of OM fans bellyaching about Mullen and posting stupid crap.
Personal experience?Mutt the Hoople said:
I don't know anyone with this much knowledge of sissies, much less prison sissies. Is this a fetish?
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