Can someone tell me what's wrong with this?

[JacksonDevilDog]

There is a thread on Nafoom about Yancy and Neal going back and forth with each other. Vanilla dick talks about Yancy seeing how the recruits are doing at the bars in Oxford on their visits. I guess you can be 17-18 years old and drink in Oxford, if you're a football recruit.

Posted by Vanilla Face on Nafoom:

VanillaFace

Posts: 1023
Jan 18, 2009 4:31 PM

Yancy says and does some stupid ****, but going to the bars to see how the recruits are acting is NOT dumbassedry.

 

[JacksonDevilDog]

There is a thread on Nafoom about Yancy and Neal going back and forth with each other. Vanilla dick talks about Yancy seeing how the recruits are doing at the bars in Oxford on their visits. I guess you can be 17-18 years old and drink in Oxford, if you're a football recruit.

Posted by Vanilla Face on Nafoom:

VanillaFace

Posts: 1023
Jan 18, 2009 4:31 PM

Yancy says and does some stupid ****, but going to the bars to see how the recruits are acting is NOT dumbassedry.

 

[Ol Blue.sixpack]

The fact that you asked the question here - where very few people give a rat's *** - as opposed to nafoom - where the topic was raised.

 

[CivilEngineerDog]

To begin with, somehow Nafoom defending Yancy is strange. I guess nafoom defending yancy would kinda be like a thread on this board saying Gene is wonderful. But then again, so is vanilla.

Either way, Nafoom is very wooly these days

 

[wpnetdawg]

Following a recruit to a bar seems a bit stalker-ish.

 

[JacksonDevilDog]

that the UM recruits are allegedly going to the bars on recruiting visits. I don't give a 17 if Yancy is there or not. I don't give a ****. It's just ridiculous that Vanilla thinks that it's ok for Yancy to go to BARS and check in on the high school guys.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

I went to bars when I was 18, as did the overwhelming majority of the posters on this board.

 

[War Machine Dawg]

something about the fact that a state and federally funded school is helping them flaunt a state and federal rule? If they're on their own time, I won't say a word. But they aren't on their own time on a recruiting trip. There should be repercussions, but there won't be. Seriously, how do you jackasses get away with so much ****?

 

[SLUdog]

and card you inside if you want to drink? Those would be two different situations. It's probably not a good plan to be visiting bars if one is a 18 yr old recruit.

 

[JacksonDevilDog]

You are not a recruit. You never were. There is a difference between some kid from Amory sneaking a few beers at the Library and a group of division 1 athletes on an official visit going to a bar. Obviously they have a recruiting coordinator with them. You would hope. They can be drinking Sunny D and it's a bad idea to have them at a bar.

 

[graddawg]

Is this really that big of an issue? Our recruits go out as well. Hell, I was almost hit by Chris Spencer's projectile vomit down the stairs at Whiskey Blues, or whatever that place was called at the time, when he was on his official visit.

 

[PageAveDawg]

showing them a good time. The library is an 18 yr old bar anyway, the creepy part is porter stalking them and scoping out their dancing skills

 

[dawgstudent]

You act like 18 year olds can't get a drink in a bar. That is the most pollyanna **** I have ever read here. Who gives a **** if a recruit drinks at a bar? I sure as hell don't. Now a recruiting analyst following them to a bar is a different story.

 

[dawgstudent]

you mean to tell me none of our recruits went to Rick's last night?

 

[War Machine Dawg]

if they were on their own time, I wouldn't say a word. 18 year olds gets served all the time. Doesn't make it right, but it is what it is. My problem is them getting served on an official recruiting visit. And that goes for our recruits too.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

there is absolutely no issue here.

 

[Ol Blue.sixpack]

You are not a recruit. You never were. There is a difference between some kid from Amory sneaking a few beers at the Library and a group of division 1 athletes on an official visit going to a bar. Obviously they have a recruiting coordinator with them. You would hope. They can be drinking Sunny D and it's a bad idea to have them at a bar.

No, it's not obvious that they have a recruiting coordinator with them. After the evening group sessions, they head out on the town with their host - a current player. It happens everywhere. Like I said, the answer to your question is that you brought the issue here.

 

[dawgstudent]

went to Ricks last night.

 

[JacksonDevilDog]

All that I am saying is that if they are on an official visit to a school, I would suggest keeping them out of the bars. I mean, God Damn, that's not too much to ask for is it? I drank when I was 18. I don't really have an issue with that. It's the fact that the school is responsible for these guys and if something was to happen to them, there would be a mass legal issue.

Plus, Rosebowl wouldn't give an update on how Bumphis holds his Michelob Lite.

 

[dawgstudent]

and I am not arguing the fact that a recruiting analyst should not go to a bar. I do think that is weird.

 

[MSUCostanza]

On the one hand, I can see where SP and others are coming from. If the recruits were drinking, is it a good idea that people employed by Mississippi State University (and thereby, the State of MS) are blatantly ignoring the legal drinking age and technically committing a crime by providing alcohol to people under 21? No, I can't see how any reasonable person can say that's a good idea or something that should be going on, when taken at face value.

However, it's also rather naive to think that it doesn't happen at every single school in the recruiting process, and that if they were left to their own devices, they would probably find a way to get alcohol anyway. An 18-year old guy's day is split into thirds. One third looking for ***, one third looking for beer, and one third sleeping.

 

[War Machine Dawg]

The situation is a legal powder keg waiting to explode. Inevitably one of these underage recruits will overdo it and get alcohol poisoning. And when that happens, all hell is going to break loose. And the school will have very little to say in defense. It's just a bad situation all around to allow underage recruits on an official visit into bars. I'll continue to repeat, my problem is this happening on school time. If it were on their personal time, I wouldn't say a thing.

 

[dawgstudent]

goes to a university sanctioned frat party and gets alcohol poisoning...wait...that has happened before.

 

[RebelBruiser]

There is a difference in going to a bar and drinking in a bar. Just because you go to a bar does not mean you are drinking in a bar. In fact, from my experience in college, if I went to a bar without an ID that said I was 21, they made sure to put a big "X" on both of my hands so they could know I wasn't drinking.

Not saying the recruits weren't drinking, but just because you go to a bar doesn't mean you're drinking.

And yes, your recruits go to the bar too. The Library in particular is a bar with a lot of young *** and a lot of dancing typically, so I'm sure the recruits were more interested in trying to play grab *** with the young coeds than they would've been with getting wasted.

And yes, you're really stretching here. Recruits have been going to bars on official visits forever. And no, they don't go with school officials. They typically go with their host for the weekend after the official activities of the day are over.

So, hypothetically, if a recruit does get alcohol-poisoning, which I'm sure has happened before, then the people that really stand a chance to be in trouble are 1) the bar itself for serving someone underage, and 2) the player or players on the team that helped said recruit get drinks at the bar. The school would have little to no liability with what the players and recruits choose to do after hours off campus.

 

[War Machine Dawg]

a recruit on an official visit? Was the school supposed to be responsible for that HS SR's well being at said party? Because the school is very much responsible for what happens to these players on their official visits. It's simply a difference in being on personal time and school time. Surely you can see that, DS.

 

[dawgstudent]

still has "Dollar You Call It" but as long as you were inside, you could have been a toddler and got a drink.

 

[SolidDog]

- I was a soph at MSU when Donte Walker was on his "Official" visit (he made 3 dozen unofficial visits).. I happen to get to tag along to the student (maybe a trainer) who was leading him around by luck.. It was like a scene from that website inthevip.com (NSFW).

- It's usually a player, a "hostess" or GA responsible for the nighttime activities, not a coach.. but I guess a GA is an employee of the university.

- I live in Oxford and there are not that many people of legal drinking age at the Library when school is in. Well except for the creepy older guys that go to stare at freshman college *** (which is why I have been there).

- I've seen Yancy at the Library before and at restaurants sitting in the corner with a notepad staring at these kids taking notes on anything they do... and I've seen the recruits walk by and taunt him before. The funny thing is that most of the guys at the bars that see him there that are Ole Miss students make fun of him too.. but I guess when you graduate and later become an Internet messageboard poster it becomes ok for him to do it.

 

[dawgstudent]

but to me, it's the same thing in the fact that a fraternity is on university property. That's why they have to adhere to university regulations. So in the same vein, the same legal matters could surface.

Edit to add: I could be completely wrong.

 

[War Machine Dawg]

Like I said, I just don't think it's a good situation for them to be there. I know it happens everywhere, but eventually some school is going to get tagged hard when something happens. I pretty much hate the NCAA, but they should step in and clean up that aspect of the recruiting process. Just one weekend, stay away. Is that too much to ask so you can CYA?

 

[hdghdawg]

Not around '00-'03. They were strict about that stuff. I went to great lengths to get fake IDs so I could drink on Dollar you Holler nights. Had 2 taken up, a $137 fine but plenty of shitfaced nights to show for my efforts.

 

[cougardog]

Makes sense with basketball since most teams take on the personality of their coach!!

 

[DudyDog]

Ole Miss use to take their recruits to Platinum in Memphis. Sounds like they've cleaned up their act somewhat.

 

[Todd4State]

Ole Miss use to take their recruits to Platinum in Memphis. Sounds like they've cleaned up their act somewhat.

Platinum isn't around anymore, so who knows if they would still do that or not. I'm thinking that they would. I remember the infamous "deer camp" where I think they would bring in women- maybe from Platinum Plus?- to "entertain" recruits.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

Personally, I think the drinking age should be 21 unless you're a member of the U.S. military. Then, all you have to do is show your Military I.D. to get a drink. If someone forges a DoD ID or uses somebody elses, you're talking about serious time at Leavenworth.

However, if Rebel-fan is going to be saying, "Them thar theys cowbeeels are eeeeleeegule!", then maybe we need to bust them on this one.

 

[The Big Slick]

in an attempt to note what certain recruits are doing. I just can't see it....