Can we talk Kansas?

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My dad (huge KU fan) came out to visit for the game. He’s here til the 12th. First time we’ve watched a KU/Duke game together since the 1991 championship game (I was 8) that we can remember. One of us is going to be smiling a whole lot more than the other for the rest of his visit. I’m taking Tuesday and Wednesday off from work and we’re eating Thanksgiving dinner on Tuesday bc my wife doesn’t eat most of the fixins for thanksgiving so it always ends up being me cooking a huge meal for myself. Hot apple cider and rum will hopefully help if the game doesn’t go well.
 

Fourteen44

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My dad (huge KU fan) came out to visit for the game. He’s here til the 12th. First time we’ve watched a KU/Duke game together since the 1991 championship game (I was 8) that we can remember. One of us is going to be smiling a whole lot more than the other for the rest of his visit. I’m taking Tuesday and Wednesday off from work and we’re eating Thanksgiving dinner on Tuesday bc my wife doesn’t eat most of the fixins for thanksgiving so it always ends up being me cooking a huge meal for myself. Hot apple cider and rum will hopefully help if the game doesn’t go well.

You want any other guests? That sounds like a great meal!!
 

LouisiAaron

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Both Carey and DeLaurier have to stay out of foul trouble. If our front court is Hurt and White halfway through the second half we're in trouble.

And we have to hit some shots. Have to. C'mon AOC and Baker!

To keep them out of foul trouble we need to double the post every time. Big to big double and make Azubuike get rid of it
 
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LouisiAaron

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Man OH Man, you have a goldfish’s memory bro. If you can stomach it, go watch the UConn game again. They even talk about how gassed Duke’s bigs were. Oh well.


Look arguing with you is like chasing the end of a rainbow. It’s exhausting and you’ll never get anywhere. So I’m done.

On our podcast, I pick Duke to win. I think we can cause havoc with guards. But if KU can get to their bigs, we’re in trouble. And you’re grossly underestimating Agbaji. Win or lose, you’ll come away with some respect for the dude after this game.

If they were gassed then that's just ridiculous. Not one played 20 minutes. Shelden Williams played 19 and fouled out. He was barely on the floor. Okafor literally didn't score until we damn near had no center out there. C'mon man. You're not making sense.

You only picked Duke because the other dude picked Kansas and you wanted to win a bet.
 

dukehokie

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Thank you for listening to the 5 Point Play Podcast.

 
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jamsession3

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To keep them out of foul trouble we need to double the post every time. Big to big double and make Azubuike get rid of it

Double the post and play a high - low post game.

We must keep Kansas honest on defense. AOC, Joey, Jack, Tre and Moore must knock down the jumpers.

Stanley please attack the basket, and Jordan give us excellent perimeter D.
 

QC Dukie

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Double the post and play a high - low post game.

We must keep Kansas honest on defense. AOC, Joey, Jack, Tre and Moore must knock down the jumpers.

Stanley please attack the basket, and Jordan give us excellent perimeter D.
Don’t forget the pick n roll and dribble drive. I hear there’s no defense for those.
 

skysdad

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Don’t forget the pick n roll and dribble drive. I hear there’s no defense for those.


Have I told you guys about the kid that sits at the pew across from me that uses his own version of the pick and roll? He usually does one of two things after the pick and roll. He right away slams dunk it right into his mouth or thumps onto the floor. So far I've seen no signs of a dribble. If so I don't want to see where he drives that dribble. :D OFC
 
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christophero

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I agree that this is a crucial season for Baker to be in the rotation. We have a ton of wings next year; even more if one of Moore/Stanley come back. I am more hopeful after the last game; think he will get some looks against KU.
 

LouisiAaron

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Man OH Man, you have a goldfish’s memory bro. If you can stomach it, go watch the UConn game again. They even talk about how gassed Duke’s bigs were. Oh well.


Look arguing with you is like chasing the end of a rainbow. It’s exhausting and you’ll never get anywhere. So I’m done.

On our podcast, I pick Duke to win. I think we can cause havoc with guards. But if KU can get to their bigs, we’re in trouble. And you’re grossly underestimating Agbaji. Win or lose, you’ll come away with some respect for the dude after this game.
Boy were you wrong. I told you exactly how it would go. Nice hedging you’re bets though. One place you say we will lose and the other you say we will win. Smh hahahaha
 

dukehokie

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Boy were you wrong. I told you exactly how it would go. Nice hedging you’re bets though. One place you say we will lose and the other you say we will win. Smh hahahaha

You dummy look at the post you quoted:

- I talk about causing havoc with our guards. Check.

- I mention having to keep it out of their bigs hands. Check.

- I said Duke would win. CHECK.

- Mentioned Agbaji having a good game. Check.

You couldn’t see a loss if you had a scoreboard strapped to your chest. You’re such a clown. Enjoy the season troll.
 

QC Dukie

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You dummy look at the post you quoted:

- I talk about causing havoc with our guards. Check.

- I mention having to keep it out of their bigs hands. Check.

- I said Duke would win. CHECK.

- Mentioned Agbaji having a good game. Check.

You couldn’t see a loss if you had a scoreboard strapped to your chest. You’re such a clown. Enjoy the season troll.
He only crawls out when we’re losing DH
 
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LouisiAaron

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You dummy look at the post you quoted:

- I talk about causing havoc with our guards. Check.

- I mention having to keep it out of their bigs hands. Check.

- I said Duke would win. CHECK.

- Mentioned Agbaji having a good game. Check.

You couldn’t see a loss if you had a scoreboard strapped to your chest. You’re such a clown. Enjoy the season troll.
I just picked a random post clown. You tried to hedge your bet. You picked us to lose. Then when your boy picked us to lose too you only switched it because if we won you would win your bet. But if we lost you could say you originally said we were going to lose. Then you come on here giving every reason for us losing. Their big men didn’t do much of nothing. They didn’t take over in the end. Agbaji is nothing special. You called him a monster. That was foolish. Better stop listening to what commentators say and think for yourself. I told you we would double the post and do enough to win the game. That’s exactly what we did. We got azubuike in foul trouble too. Why didn’t you list that our bigs would be tired on your little check list? Go to timeout! Hahaha. Trying to act like you called it ahead of time. You on tape fool
 

dukehokie

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I just picked a random post clown. You tried to hedge your bet. You picked us to lose. Then when your boy picked us to lose too you only switched it because if we won you would win your bet. But if we lost you could say you originally said we were going to lose. Then you come on here giving every reason for us losing. Their big men didn’t do much of nothing. They didn’t take over in the end. Agbaji is nothing special. You called him a monster. That was foolish. Better stop listening to what commentators say and think for yourself. I told you we would double the post and do enough to win the game. That’s exactly what we did. We got azubuike in foul trouble too. Why didn’t you list that our bigs would be tired on your little check list? Go to timeout! Hahaha. Trying to act like you called it ahead of time. You on tape fool

I hope one day I have the insane confidence for doing absolutely nothing that you do. It’s impressive. Keep that same energy forever man. Just keep it away from me. Haha.

You’re a joke. You’re a hack and a loser. You come on here calling people out for opinions on the basis of nothing whatsoever. Then on the off chance you’re right, you chest thump yourself as if you discovered something. Newsflash, you’re nothing but the message board Christopher Columbus. You’re discovering **** that already exists and you take full credit for it. Congratulations I guess. Your pride has been supplied by everyone else’s work.
 
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LouisiAaron

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“Kansas is going to pull away with this one. I don’t think it’s a blowout. Duke will lead for 25-30 good minutes then I think Kansas stamina and veteran leadership will take over for them.”

“Should we put a drink bet on it? now I want to pivot because of that (co-host insane we don’t have a chance take)”

Don’t get all sensitive now hahaha. You tried to hedge your bet. So you could be in a win win. You didn’t change your mind because you actually thought we would win. You thought that “monster front court” of there’s would take over in the end. Only reason you picked Duke and started talking different is to be opposite of your co-host. Don’t be FAKE. You just got called out on it. Take your lick like a man. Don’t act like you was right all along.
 

dukehokie

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“Kansas is going to pull away with this one. I don’t think it’s a blowout. Duke will lead for 25-30 good minutes then I think Kansas stamina and veteran leadership will take over for them.”

“Should we put a drink bet on it? now I want to pivot because of that (co-host insane we don’t have a chance take)”

Don’t get all sensitive now hahaha. You tried to hedge your bet. So you could be in a win win. You didn’t change your mind because you actually thought we would win. You thought that “monster front court” of there’s would take over in the end. Only reason you picked Duke and started talking different is to be opposite of your co-host. Don’t be FAKE. You just got called out on it. Take your lick like a man. Don’t act like you was right all along.

You don’t know me fool. It’s clear I changed my thought process. Keep playing games you hack.

I’m done with you. I’ve spent enough time on a troll.
 

timo0402

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“Kansas is going to pull away with this one. I don’t think it’s a blowout. Duke will lead for 25-30 good minutes then I think Kansas stamina and veteran leadership will take over for them.”

“Should we put a drink bet on it? now I want to pivot because of that (co-host insane we don’t have a chance take)”

Don’t get all sensitive now hahaha. You tried to hedge your bet. So you could be in a win win. You didn’t change your mind because you actually thought we would win. You thought that “monster front court” of there’s would take over in the end. Only reason you picked Duke and started talking different is to be opposite of your co-host. Don’t be FAKE. You just got called out on it. Take your lick like a man. Don’t act like you was right all along.
Thank you for listening in! I won’t be getting in the middle of your beef with Hokie, but I’ll address my “insane” take.

Duke played pretty much exactly how i expected, i think i was within a couple points of what i thought we would score. I thought we’d struggle to score much more than 65-70pts, which is what we did. I don’t think we have the offensive cohesion or shooters. That was more or less accurate. However, where i was dead wrong-I was not prepared for KU being that poor- turning it over 28 times. Granted we can attribute many of them to our defense which is nice. I’m happy that i was wrong about that, and to be perfectly honest, i don’t pretend to know much about KU coming into the season.
 

LouisiAaron

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You don’t know me fool. It’s clear I changed my thought process. Keep playing games you hack.

I’m done with you. I’ve spent enough time on a troll.
Getting defensive because you know what it was. Take your lick. You like hedging bets.
 

LouisiAaron

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Thank you for listening in! I won’t be getting in the middle of your beef with Hokie, but I’ll address my “insane” take.

Duke played pretty much exactly how i expected, i think i was within a couple points of what i thought we would score. I thought we’d struggle to score much more than 65-70pts, which is what we did. I don’t think we have the offensive cohesion or shooters. That was more or less accurate. However, where i was dead wrong-I was not prepared for KU being that poor- turning it over 28 times. Granted we can attribute many of them to our defense which is nice. I’m happy that i was wrong about that, and to be perfectly honest, i don’t pretend to know much about KU coming into the season.
Kansas has no shooters. That’s why I knew we would win. Defense can be seen regardless of competition and we looked great defensively in the exhibition games. NWMS just hit a lot of contested 3s at the end and Goldwire was part of that problem. He took his foot off the gas surprisingly. There was no way Coach K was going to let them beat us with their bigs. Their perimeter isn’t that good to scare anyone either. Kansas is worse than they were last year easily.

I don’t know what’s up with your boy though. He mad because I called him out for hedging his bets. He said one thing then changed because you had your take. Then he comes on here and tell me how our bigs would get tired and Kansas would have all this energy in the end of the game. He double talking
 

timo0402

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Kansas has no shooters. That’s why I knew we would win. Defense can be seen regardless of competition and we looked great defensively in the exhibition games. NWMS just hit a lot of contested 3s at the end and Goldwire was part of that problem. He took his foot off the gas surprisingly. There was no way Coach K was going to let them beat us with their bigs. Their perimeter isn’t that good to scare anyone either. Kansas is worse than they were last year easily

Again, congrats on knowing more about KU basketball than i do. I don’t pretend to be an expert on Kansas hoops, especially before they’ve played a game. I do make my predictions on what WE do though and as i mentioned i was pretty much accurate on what we’d do.

We were Very inefficient offensively- we made the same amount of shots as Kansas on 14 more attempts, and we were even worse than they were on FTs.

Secondly, their lack of shooters or ability to beat us with their bigs- they shot 4/9 from three, small sample size but anything in the 40+% is solid. Compared to our 8/24 (as mentioned we don’t have the shooters- as of yet anyway). They did shoot poorly from the line but most of that came from their bigs.

Speaking of the bigs, They also out rebounded us by 10 and they shot 46% from the floor (to our 36%), that, and by their lack of 3pt attempts would suggest to me that they take everything inside to utilize their bigs.

luckily our defense was really solid and they were admittedly sloppy. 28 turnovers is an insane amount- i bet we don’t turn another team over that many times the rest of the year and I’d venture to guess they don’t have that many either, but I’m not a KU expert.
 

timo0402

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Me too Dirt. I don’t care if we shoot 10% and look crappy doing it. The bottom line is we won and I’m damn happy this morning. There’s a win column and a loss column. There is no in between.
I’d much rather have learning moments and adjustments after wins than losses that’s for sure. It was our first game, wasn’t pretty but I WILLLLLL TAKE IT! Go Duke!
 

dukehokie

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I’d much rather have learning moments and adjustments after wins than losses that’s for sure. It was our first game, wasn’t pretty but I WILLLLLL TAKE IT! Go Duke!

That much is true. There are failures to draw from in that game. They’ll have a lot of good tape to look at.
 

LouisiAaron

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Again, congrats on knowing more about KU basketball than i do. I don’t pretend to be an expert on Kansas hoops, especially before they’ve played a game. I do make my predictions on what WE do though and as i mentioned i was pretty much accurate on what we’d do.

We were Very inefficient offensively- we made the same amount of shots as Kansas on 14 more attempts, and we were even worse than they were on FTs.

Secondly, their lack of shooters or ability to beat us with their bigs- they shot 4/9 from three, small sample size but anything in the 40+% is solid. Compared to our 8/24 (as mentioned we don’t have the shooters- as of yet anyway). They did shoot poorly from the line but most of that came from their bigs.

Speaking of the bigs, They also out rebounded us by 10 and they shot 46% from the floor (to our 36%), that, and by their lack of 3pt attempts would suggest to me that they take everything inside to utilize their bigs.

luckily our defense was really solid and they were admittedly sloppy. 28 turnovers is an insane amount- i bet we don’t turn another team over that many times the rest of the year and I’d venture to guess they don’t have that many either, but I’m not a KU expert.
You don’t have to be an expert. All you have to do is actually watch them. It doesn’t take long. Plus people that have watched ball for awhile know how Bill Self likes to play. People write off exhibitions but it tells you things about what teams are practicing and how they will play at the beginning. We aren’t expected to be a super efficient team. But it’s a fact we play defense and we can score enough to win. One person that’s always efficient is Cassius. Every single time he has hit the floor in a game setting he has been efficient. So I wasn’t surprised by him. We have enough talent to score 70 on people. Our defense will always have us in position to win