Carmon should be our left tackle- no if's, and's or but's

Todd4State

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Simply because that is where most teams put their best pass rusher- even Sandra Bullock knows that.

I know we're not a passing team, but if the other team's best pass rusher is blowing up our left tackle or completely running by him, whatever the case may be- that can still disrupt a running play big time.

I think we need to do this:

C- Saulsberry
G- Jackson
G- Damien Robinson
T- Carmon
T- Lawrence

I know Damien Robinson isn't ready. I don't care. Neither is Blaine Clausell. It has to be easier to cover up a RG playing in between two seniors than it is a LT. Why our coaches even insist that Clausell start is beyond me and any logic. Heck, if he MUST be in the lineup, put him in at guard.
 

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I actually tweeted this question at coach 34 (@wool34) on sat that I didnt understand why day wasnt at center with carmon at lt, because I simply cannot see how we are better with clausell at lt. His quick response made great sense, maybe the staff didn't feel comfortable with day at c covered with a nt (ga runs a 3-4). It will be interesting to see if day plays more against 4-3 schemes or if they go with saulsbury at c, with robinson at g, and carmon at lt.
 

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if Carmon were starting there instead of Clausell. Neither one has a prayer of blocking a pass rushing DE. The question is is Clausell a better LT than Robinson is a guard. I'm guessing the answer is yes. You don't care that Robinson isn't ready to play, but you'd rather have him playing instead of Clausell, who is apparently more ready to play? Face it, there's really not much we can do about our offensive line. It's going to be a liability no matter who we play. Tobias Smith may have been the one starter we could least afford to lose.
 

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I'm convinced he couldn't block the average poster on this board, and I mean that. He and Lawson seem to be nice guys, but neither one of them moves well and they are both soft.

Ben Beckwith would probably be a better option at guard than Robinson.

When he is fully healthy, which he seems close to being, Carmon is a much better option at tackle than Clausell. However, that means you have Saulsberry and Lawrence manning the right side of the line, and neither of them is capable of knocking an SEC defensive lineman off of the ball.

It doesn't matter what we do the rest of the season. Our OL is guaranteed to suck.
 

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But then again, so could the average poster on this board. Still, your point is valid. If he could even marginally play in the SEC, he'd have seen some action by now.
 

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I give in. Slight thread high-jack, what line-up gets us to 6-6, because at this point that all I care about. Thought?
 

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We're just better than UAB, UT-Martin and Kentucky. We're better than Mississippi too, plus we get them at home. If South Carolina continues to underperform (is there another team in the country that continually does less with more talent?) we might win that one too.
 

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I don't really care- and Pat my thought is I would rather be weak at right guard than I would at left tackle. It's a lot easier to double team guys with a center/right gaurd combo- which is something that happens all the time- than it would be to help out a left tackle. THAT's what should be the question rather than which individual is better than the other.


I agree that Carmon isn't exactly the next Anthony Munoz, but I think you would agree that he's better than Clausell.
 

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and that's the Robinson was awful. Maybe he's come a long way since then but I was paying close attention to some of the young guys and he abused on pretty much every snap. So I'll be shocked if he ever contributes anything until he proves me otherwise.
 

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and then whomever wins the shiniest turd contest starts at right guard. Saulsberry and the winner help each other out.


My point is, I think moving Carmon around like we are is really stupid. He is functional at left tackle. He's clearly better than Clausell. It's like our coaches don't notice that he sucks, but they notice that say, Robinson sucks. And so they keep Clausell at argueably the most important position on the o-line with center being the other in the discussion? It's frustrating.
 

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The fact that it took Carmon all of spring practice plus 3 weeks of preseaon practice to beat him out tells me that there isn't a lot of difference between the two. Just throwing some number out there, on a scale of 1-10, I'd rather go with a4 at LT and a5 at guard, than a5 at LT and a 2 at guard.
 

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Carmon being better than Clausell should be a no brainer. Heck, how long did he say that Tyler had a chance to start when everyone in America knew Relf was going to start?
 

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Todd4State said:
Carmon being better than Clausell should be a no brainer. Heck, how long did he say that Tyler had a chance to start when everyone in America knew Relf was going to start?
EXACTLY! Other than 2 false starts to start the Memphis game, Carmon has graded very well. Anyone who truly believes there was as much competition as the coaches made it out to believe are thinking way too much into it.

I've read on here several times people saying "Blaine will be pretty good once he gets some experience and adds a bunch of weight." Carmon knows the position (he's actually played it before) and he's a heavier Clausell.

Where is Templeton Hardy?
 

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I think Carmon is the LT if he knee allows it. I don't think the knee was ready for GA and if you recall he went down in pain early in the 1st half. As soon as he can show in practice he has the mobility to play LT at a reasonable level I think he's back there no question.
 

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If we were to lose one more offensive lineman, well, I wouldn't be able to force myself to watch a game. It would be a bloodbath.
 

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Here's a JUCO that Hevesy loved so much and he's been through a spring practice and yet he can't even help us at guard as desperate as we are. I mean how do you misevaluate someone so severely TWO YEARS out of HS? Its really hard to believe we could be that inept at evaluating a player.
 

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The biggest problem with the offensive line is: Last year when Green went out Cook stepped in and played a hell of a year. He was a blocking tightend. We don't have a blocking tight in on the team. This in turns put your tackles at a disadvantage because it looks them up one on one with a defensive end who if is worth a damn will beat a half way good tackle anytime. WE NEED A BLOCKING TE. With that it helps greatly with our ol issues.
 

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patdog said:
The fact that it took Carmon all of spring practice plus 3 weeks of preseaon practice to beat him out tells me that there isn't a lot of difference between the two. Just throwing some number out there, on a scale of 1-10, I'd rather go with a4 at LT and a5 at guard, than a5 at LT and a 2 at guard.
i can go watch game tape of a healthy carmon at LT and clausell at LT and to my non-skilled eye, carmon is head and shoulders better than clausell. i know carmon was only helthy for memphis and parts of the auburn game, but let's just throw away the lsu tape and evaluate clausell from the auburn, la tech, and uga games and he still isn't anywhere nearly as good as carmon was.
 

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TheGodFather said:
The biggest problem with the offensive line is: Last year when Green went out Cook stepped in and played a hell of a year. He was a blocking tightend. We don't have a blocking tight in on the team. This in turns put your tackles at a disadvantage because it looks them up one on one with a defensive end who if is worth a damn will beat a half way good tackle anytime. WE NEED A BLOCKING TE. With that it helps greatly with our ol issues.
We need to find one for this next class, lots of teams don't recruit blockingexclusive TE's very well so we might could findsomeone capable inJUCO that would be willing to walk-on unless we think Warren can do both
 

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We could use Ben Beckwith as a blocking TE. At this point, I would be willing to give up an eligible receiver if it helps us in the long run.
 

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spot with Trapp...it was right at the end of getting everyone on board...we Must figure this recrootin' **** out ...NOW