Toggle sidebar

Cave in Thread. In the last 10 years who are coordinators that went ...

Shmuley

Shmuley

Heisman
Mar 6, 2008
23,745
10,394
113
to BCS programs as HC? I mean if we're going to get stuck with a coordinator, then at least show me the company we're keeping. Like I said, I'm basically caving in, so convince me.

Stoops - DC Florida to OU
Pellini - DC LSU to Nebraska

Who the F else?
 
Shmuley

Shmuley

Heisman
Mar 6, 2008
23,745
10,394
113
to BCS programs as HC? I mean if we're going to get stuck with a coordinator, then at least show me the company we're keeping. Like I said, I'm basically caving in, so convince me.

Stoops - DC Florida to OU
Pellini - DC LSU to Nebraska

Who the F else?
 
L

lawdawg02

Redshirt
Jan 23, 2007
4,120
0
0
DC (Texas) to HC Iowa State. not that he's been successful, though. so i guess this won't convince you.
 
GloryDawg

GloryDawg

Heisman
Mar 3, 2005
19,016
15,112
113
How many OC have gone to a loosing program with no winning history and turned it around? I don't want to hear about some OC who went to Georgia or Tenn or were ever you should win. Hell Croom could win at Georgia or Tenn.

Lets hear about some real success stories.
 
F

Fletch Fletcher

Redshirt
Sep 25, 2006
620
0
0
Not sure if you're looking for NFL coordinators or not, but Saban was DC with the Cleveland Browns before landing at Michigan State. Although he was previous HC with Toledo for 1 season before going to the Browns
 
C

Coach33.sixpack

Redshirt
Dec 6, 2008
566
0
0
Big D said:
How many OC have gone to a loosing program with no winning history and turned it around? I don't want to hear about some OC who went to Georgia or Tenn or were ever you should win. Hell Croom could win at Georgia or Tenn.

Lets hear about some real success stories.
Click to expand...

Agree to disagree
 
D

DowntownDawg

Redshirt
May 28, 2007
3,494
0
0
...the success rate wouldn't be much different than losing schools that hired "experienced head coaches" from smaller schools. You need to get off this line of thinking. It's ridiculous.
 
T

topdawg.sixpack

Redshirt
Nov 25, 2007
1,753
0
0
TT was decent, but Leach took it to a whole new level.

Kansas was absolutely awful, and Mangino took them to a damn BCS game.

Stoops took over a terrible Oklahoma program, that was previously led by our old friend, Ron Cooper. So he built that program back up.

Jeff Tedford at Cal turned that program around.
 
Shmuley

Shmuley

Heisman
Mar 6, 2008
23,745
10,394
113
I'll give you two examples:

Ralph Friedgen (Maryland had returned to shitsvilles by the time he took over in 2000)
Mark Mangino (Kansas sucked *** when he took over in 2002)
 
GloryDawg

GloryDawg

Heisman
Mar 3, 2005
19,016
15,112
113
topdawg said:
TT was decent, but Leach took it to a whole new level.

Kansas was absolutely awful, and Mangino took them to a damn BCS game.

Stoops took over a terrible Oklahoma program, that was previously led by our old friend, Ron Cooper. So he built that program back up.

Jeff Tedford at Cal turned that program around.
Click to expand...
Those are two good ones!
 
S

statedogg

Redshirt
Aug 30, 2006
83
0
0
Big D said:
How many OC have gone to a loosing program with no winning history and turned it around? I don't want to hear about some OC who went to Georgia or Tenn or were ever you should win. H<span style="font-weight: bold;">ell Croom could win at Georgia or Tenn.</span>
Click to expand...
You don't believe this do you?
 
S

SoxFan343

Redshirt
Feb 25, 2008
200
0
0
Mangino - OC at Oklahoma to Kansas
Mike Leach - OC at Oklahoma to Texas Tech
Petrino was OC at Auburn and then went to Louisville
Jeff Tedford - OC at Oregon to Cal
Mike Stoops- DC at Oklaoma to Arizona
Jeff Jagodzinski- was OC at Boston College, hired as head coach (his first gig) and has gone 20-6 and two straight ACC title games
Randy Shannon- DC at Miami to HC at Miami
Clemson just hired their WR coach (Dabo Sweeney)
Gene Chizik- DC at Texas to HC at Iowa State
Mike Gundy - OC at Oklahoma St to HC at Oklahom St
Greg Schiano - DC at Miami to head coach at Rutgers

Just a few.
 
P

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
56,113
25,172
113
Bill Snyder was Iowa's offensive coordinator when he took over Kansas State. K-State had had only 2 winning seasons in the previous 34 years.
 
GloryDawg

GloryDawg

Heisman
Mar 3, 2005
19,016
15,112
113
statedogg said:
Big D said:
How many OC have gone to a loosing program with no winning history and turned it around? I don't want to hear about some OC who went to Georgia or Tenn or were ever you should win. H<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">ell Croom could win at Georgia or Tenn.</span>
Click to expand...
You don't believe this do you?
Click to expand...

<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Talent can over come bad coaching. GA and Tenn. usually can get the talent. Even dumb *** Fulmer won until he got lazy and stop recruiting.

Look at Les Miles at LSU. His first few years he did great even with the dumb *** coaching calls he made but now that talent is diminishing they are not as good as they were. Let's not forget that OK State was winning before he took over that program.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p>
 
B

bierto

All-American
Mar 3, 2008
4,167
9,017
113
Coordinators that took over D1 programs
Slam Dunks
Bobby Petrino Auburn OC to Louisville
Mangino Oklahoma OC To Kansas
Rodriguez Clemson OC to WVU
Leech Oklahoma OC to Texas Tech
Bob Stoops Florida DC to Oklahoma
Mark Richt FSU OC to UGA
Successful
Cutcliffe UT DC to Ole Miss
Schiano Miami DC to Rutgers
Bo Pellini LSU DC to Nebraska
Mediocre to ******
Chizik Texas DC to Iowa State
Mike Stoops Oklahoma DC to Arizona

And the threesome of Patterson, Peterson, and Whittingham were all coordinators at their respective schools before they got head coaching gigs

I know I am missing a bunch of the ****** ones
Edited to say that between the time I started writing the list and posted it, another list was listed.
 
Shmuley

Shmuley

Heisman
Mar 6, 2008
23,745
10,394
113
coordinator moved to HC at same school (which is a different animal altogether, I'd argue, since there's familiarity and continuity built in), we can go ahead and throw Gary Patterson in there.

Like I said, I'm going to be f'n disappointed if Byrne completely whiffs on Petersen, Brian Kelly, Patterson and Graham, and we end up with a coordinator. I'm sorry, I just am.
 
A

AzzurriDawg4

Redshirt
Nov 11, 2007
3,206
12
38
AT TULSA.

What is the magic experience that makes one a "proven HC?"

What is better, defensive coordinator at Tulsa that doesn't even field a great defense OR number one offensive coordinator in the nation?
 
W

Woosaa

Redshirt
Jun 25, 2007
80
0
0
haven't seen Tubberville mentioned yet. He as DC, at maybe A&M before turning things around at Ole Miss. For some reason I want to say Zook was a coordinator prior to taking the UF job, but I may just be remembering things wrong.
 
R

RaiderDawg24

Redshirt
May 28, 2007
240
0
0
or assistant coaches. That would be crazy.

Signed,

Georgia
Boston College
Miami
Maryland
Clemson
West Virginia
UConn
Rutgers
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas Tech
Kansas
Kansas State (Snyder's first hire)
Washington
Arizona
Oregon
Cal
Wisconsin
Northwestern
 
OneParticularHarbor

OneParticularHarbor

Redshirt
Apr 16, 2006
1,106
11
38
Fedora was Oklahoma State's OC last year. USM offense improved considerably this year, although defense is mostly a rumor in C-USA. Recruiting also improved by leaps and bounds.
 
S

Stormrider81

Redshirt
May 1, 2006
2,083
0
0
When has MSU hired someone the caliber of Wilson or Mullen? That would be huge.

The last 3 coaching hires we made were a former player, a successful coach noone wanted due to NCAA issues, and a lifetime position coach out of college football for 17 years. Honestly, how can you justify being disappointed in hiring one of the top OCs in college football, much less one of the top assistants overall?
I wanted Petersen, Kelly, or Patterson too, but we expecting us to go hire away someone else's head coach is really a stretch. Graham isn't a bad candidate, but I can't understand putting him ahead of Wilson and Mullen. He's a defensive guy and Tulsa's defense sucks. I'm not saying I wouldn't take him, but he's not at the top of my list after the obvious top 3.</p>
 
Shmuley

Shmuley

Heisman
Mar 6, 2008
23,745
10,394
113
if I'm disappointed and you're satisfied. It's a f'n message board. I can be disappointed and you can be happy. It's OK if we don't see eye to eye. I won't convince you. You won't convince me.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom