Certainly, this can't be a good thing...

[benatmsu]

<blockquote><p>Ole Miss safety Deontay Anderson claims he was misled on NCAA case, seeks transfer <a href="https://t.co/rIIjjDV4Br">https://t.co/rIIjjDV4Br</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/USATODAY?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@usatoday</a></p>— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/932460693118443525?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2017</a></blockquote>

 

[bulldognation]

The first crack appears. I have a feeling the dam holding that class together is about to collapse without the beaver there to patch things up.

 

[pDigital32Dawg]

Awaiting an explanation from one of the not-a-fan Landshark writers. First turned down by Taggert, and now this. This is a great start to Egg Bowl week!

 

[EngDawg]

Tom Mars

nm

 

[tired]

Uh oh..

The first thing that comes to mind is Deontay’s request to be fully released and any requests that follow by other players is a very predictable outgrowth of all that was revealed in the Houston Nutt litigation,” Mars told USA TODAY Sports. “As everyone knows now, the so-called false narrative that was the basis of Coach Nutt’s lawsuit was intended to convince student-athletes and their parents of something that wasn’t true so Ole Miss could sign them in the few days remaining before National Signing Day, and I doubt even the most fanatic Ole Miss fans would condone misleading high school students and their parents for the purpose of signing top talent to the football program.”

 

[missouridawg]

If they have, say, 8-10 guys from that class transfer without sitting out... that would be like adding another years worth of scholarship reductions immediately, plus the ones the NCAA is about to hand out.

If Mars wasn’t a wealthy SOB, I’d pass the hat for him. He is doing the Lords work.

 

[engie]

That's the sound of the floodgates coming open.

ETA: This is going to be the final whammy. The timing of the transfers + timing of sanctions coming down + at least two already destroyed recruiting classes before the heavy numbers limitations even hit... and the inability to fill the holes of these transfers in recruiting... and the inability to fill the coaching vacancy/going through a coaching search at arguably the worst time in the history of the SEC.

They might come out of this OK. They sure shocked me how they recovered in 2012. But this is a good bit worse.

 

[fishwater99]

Dan Mullen at it again.

That's all they have.

 

[dawgface]

EXACTLY.....their (freezus & djork) whole house of cards is built on the lie that all of the violations happened under nutt....and they have now APOLOGIZED TO NUTT for saying that so i think you can sit back and watch. hopefully some of that class would now take a look at us to see if we need some depth in certain positions....

 

[57stratdawg]

This is a good thing

 

[BossDawg78]

and I doubt even the most fanatic Ole Miss fans would condone misleading high school students and their parents for the purpose of signing top talent to the football program.”

Sounds to me like Mars doesn't know the OM fanbase all that well.

 

[o_dawgnabit]

He was a bust anyway*****

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

I’ve got a feeling Mr. Anderson won’t be the only one.

How many times is Ross Bjork going to be publicly ***** slapped by Thomas Mars before his *** is on the chopping block? And how in the hell do they expect anyone to take that job with all that is going on right now?

UM fans better start getting very familiar with Matt Luke as the full time head coach- and truthfully, they are blessed to have him right now. They MIGHT be able to hire Jay Hopson, but he would be wise to wait another three years when that job opens up again.

 

[engie]

Sounds to me like Mars doesn't know the OM fanbase all that well.

Playing their self-righteousness would indicate that he knows them extremely well IMO...

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

But this also puts UM in a very awkward pickle...

On one hand, if you let Anderson go, you are basically announcing to anyone who wants to transfer that they are free with no strings attached. This would be devastating to not only their talent level, but it also would crush them in any coaching search outside of just promoting Luke.

On the other hand, if you don’t let Anderson go, you face horrendous PR coming from every media member in America. It would be like the Nutt lawsuit all over again but far worse.

They are 17ed on this one. You really have to just let him go and beg everyone else to stay until at least the penalties are announced.

 

[Carbaryl]

But this also puts UM in a very awkward pickle...

On one hand, if you let Anderson go, you are basically announcing to anyone who wants to transfer that they are free with no strings attached. This would be devastating to not only their talent level, but it also would crush them in any coaching search outside of just promoting Luke.

On the other hand, if you don’t let Anderson go, you face horrendous PR coming from every media member in America. It would be like the Nutt lawsuit all over again but far worse.

They are 17ed on this one. You really have to just let him go and beg everyone else to stay until at least the penalties are announced.

I'm sure Ole Miss will have no issue releasing him so he won't talk.The issue here is the NCAA allowing him to play without having to sit a year.Once/if the NCAA gives the okay to Anderson then the rats jumping ship will happen.

 

[msstate7]

But this also puts UM in a very awkward pickle...

On one hand, if you let Anderson go, you are basically announcing to anyone who wants to transfer that they are free with no strings attached. This would be devastating to not only their talent level, but it also would crush them in any coaching search outside of just promoting Luke.

On the other hand, if you don’t let Anderson go, you face horrendous PR coming from every media member in America. It would be like the Nutt lawsuit all over again but far worse.

They are 17ed on this one. You really have to just let him go and beg everyone else to stay until at least the penalties are announced.

Om can’t do what the kid wants... he wants to play immediately. The NCAA will fix this when they announce penalties... immediate transfers for all

 

[Hugh's Burner Phone]

So do I start my rue now?

 

[EngDawg]

Sounds to me like Mars doesn't know the OM fanbase all that well.

Just lawyer talk

 

[engie]

immediate transfers for all

I doubt we see this. Would be the first time in history as far as I know that penalty had been imposed if they do. Dunno how/why that narrative got so widespread among our fanbase.

The Wolken article spells it out exactly how I've been preaching to people. In general, a bowl ban only allows open immediate transfer eligibility to players who lack the possibility of playing in another bowl in their career at the school. So, in OM's case, assuming one more year, that would just be the rising SR class. The case everyone points to is Penn St, but people forget that was initially a 4 yr bowl ban. Hence how that fits.

This lawsuit would have no reason to exist if the NCAA was likely to set loose the OM underclassmen in the ruling. It is setting the precedent for them to get out of it when that doesn't happen IMO.

 

[Todd4State]

I doubt we see this. Would be the first time in history as far as I know that penalty had been imposed if they do. Dunno how/why that narrative got so widespread among our fanbase.

The Wolken article spells it out exactly how I've been preaching to people. In general, a bowl ban only allows open immediate transfer eligibility to players who lack the possibility of playing in another bowl in their career at the school. So, in OM's case, assuming one more year, that would just be the rising SR class. The case everyone points to is Penn St, but people forget that was initially a 4 yr bowl ban. Hence how that fits.

This lawsuit would have no reason to exist if the NCAA was likely to set loose the OM underclassmen in the ruling. It is setting the precedent for them to get out of it when that doesn't happen IMO.

That's why I think we might see a two year bowl ban in addition to what Ole Miss has already self imposed. They know that the 2016 class was misled for the purpose of helping Ole Miss survive probation and so they might allow the players in that class an opportunity to go elsewhere. We'll see.

 

[PBRME]

Here’s a documented court statement about the OM Athletic Department lying to student athletes, the media, and their fans. The not fans media were used, continue to be used, and are leading the blame everybody else charge. At what point do their fans realize what’s being done to them? OM is doing a great job conspiring with their not fan media to keep the fans in line. Even after it’s been proven every step of the way they’re lying. EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

The NCAA sees through the constant lying. They make a point of punishing lies. See Renardo and his extra value meal he lied about. I think you’ll see some waivers applied that normally aren’t due to the dishonesty.

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

Still boogles the mind how these kids didnt see the truth. Every single other person not related to tsun was telling them this was going to be bad.....its taken all the way to now to get it? Gotta wonder about some of these guys judgement

 

[dog12]

This is awesome.

Tom Mars has had Ole Miss by the nuts for a long while . . . and there's not a ******* thing those bitches can do about it.

Everything Mars is doing is done with message/timing that f*cks over Ole Miss in an effective manner.

This news article and the possibility of open transfers for current Ole Miss football players might just distract them from their focus on their next game.

That would be a shame. ****

 

[Shmuley]

NCAA to Deontay: “Just be patient, son.”

 

[AlCoDog]

Honestly, this kid jumped out of a damn airplane to make his announcement. I don’t feel bad for any player on that team on scholarship, and i hope none of them are able to transfer without sitting. I’m my opinion, they all knew what they were getting into with cash and hookers. I also believe they have several playing right now that lied to investigators. So i hope they have to stay and suffer through sanctions and getting their *** beat.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Test Case ..

Quote .. "This could be a tricky situation for both Ole Miss and the NCAA, as releasing Anderson without any restrictions and making him eligible without sitting out potentially could set the precedent for other Ole Miss players who were recruited in 2016 to do the same."

 

[Chesusdog]

I understand your sentiment but every player that leaves is sprinkles on the punishment cake. If a healthy handful leave, along with the huge amount of reduced schoolies, it's like adding another year to their collective misery.

 

[DerHntr]

The replies to that article on Twitter are great. One guy suggests that MSU is paying for Mars. Plus, they all knew this was coming because the player “sucked anyway”. Where does OM find these people?

 

[BiscuitEater]

Still boogles the mind how these kids didnt see the truth.

Ahhh .. $$ & hookers? Tends to 'blur' one's vision!

 

[AlCoDog]

That’s true, but disgruntled players with nothing to play for can be pretty bad too. It’s only getting worse for OM either way.

 

[PBRME]

I find it funny that he sucked but was good enough to get playing time as a true freshman. Took a rs because of the bowl ban.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

For Anyone Interested - The 2016 Ole Miss Signing Class

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4 star OL Greg Little
5 star QB Shea Patterson
4 star DT Benito Jones
4 star WR AJ Brown
4 star S Deontay Anderson
4 star WR DK Metcalf
4 star TE Octavious Cooley
4 star WR Tre Nixon
4 star CB Jalon Jones
4 star A D'Vaughn Pennamon
4 star OL Bryce Matthews
4 star DE Charles Wiley
4 star RB Justin Conner
4 star TE Gabe Angel
4 star TE Jacob Mathis
3 star OL Royce Newman
3 star OL Chandler Truitt
3 star OL Eli Johnson
3 star DE Josiah Courtney
3 star S Greg Eisworth
3 star LB Donta Evans
3 star Rb Jarrion Street
3 star S Myles Hartsfield
3 star OT Jack DeFoor
3 star LB Detric Bing-Dukes
3 star DE Tariqious Tisdale

</section>

 

[pDigital32Dawg]

And Hugh Freeze is checking out of social media:

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Hugh Freeze‏Verified account @CoachHughFreeze

[FONT=&quot]
May we all take time to be truly grateful for all the many blessings we have. Gratefulness drives out fear and anxiety. Getting off twitter until new year so from our family to yours.. happy thanksgiving and Merry Christmas. Thankful for many of you! U have blessed us w/ kindness[/FONT]

https://twitter.com/CoachHughFreeze/status/932582068961382400

[FONT=&quot]Part 2::I would love 2send all my former players a letter.. so if players from Briarcrest, Ole Miss, Lambuth and Ark State get this message, please share it with your teammates and send me an email with your contact info! You each made me better. Our family is grateful for you.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Part 3. Email for former players and their families is [email protected] -hope to hear from many of you.[/FONT]

 

[KurtRambis4]

The om twitter brigade

is already throwing out the "everybody Is doing it!!!1" excuse.

 

[ronpolk]

I can only imagine the look on most land shark fans when they got the paragraph that said the player retained Tom Mars. All out screaming I’m sure.

 

[Indndawg]

They gotta let him go

But this also puts UM in a very awkward pickle...

On one hand, if you let Anderson go, you are basically announcing to anyone who wants to transfer that they are free with no strings attached. This would be devastating to not only their talent level, but it also would crush them in any coaching search outside of just promoting Luke.

On the other hand, if you don’t let Anderson go, you face horrendous PR coming from every media member in America. It would be like the Nutt lawsuit all over again but far worse.

They are 17ed on this one. You really have to just let him go and beg everyone else to stay until at least the penalties are announced.

negative PR would be devastating.

 

[WilCoDawg]

MSU is surely footing the Mars’s bill.***

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

Yep. Their only play here is to let him go immediately and release a statement saying, “alright, we’ve released you and done all we can. Now it’s out of our hands as far as you being eligible next year.”

Then beg that no one else transfers until sanctions are announced. With Mars now involved and this being public, they really have no choice but to let him go. But make no mistake- Mars was brought in primarily to grease the wheels with the NCAA, not UM.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Honestly, this kid jumped out of a damn airplane to make his announcement. I don’t feel bad for any player on that team on scholarship, and i hope none of them are able to transfer without sitting.

Kid could have gone ANYWHERE, 4* Safety .. had 42+ 'major' offers .. From the SEC alone .. OM, LSU, Bama, Georgia, Florida, Auburn, Ark, Kentucky, A&M, Mississippi State offered.

Looked like the proverbial 'useful idiot' when he tweeted .. "I talked to Coach Freeze about [potential violations]," Anderson said, adding that "he said it was about things that had happened in the past before he got to Ole Miss. I knew he would be honest with me. "