Chad Bumphis might be our Ace in a Hole regarding Newton
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Agreed... And If Chris Smith Comes into his own next year and the other wide outs come in and step up we could be dangerous... i also see brandon heavens coming into his own in the demps/rainey role mullen has him in...
It's pretty well known that this guy was going to be a Florida or Georgia commitment, but his grades were bad and a lot of schools backed off until he made a huge push. Mullen and Hevesy recruited him at Florida and continued that when they came to MSU.
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coming off the field during the middle of the season, guess that explains why we didn't see him too much later on...
from Cam Newton is O'Neal Wilder. Newton can throw the ball downfield where all Wilder will have to do isuse his speed to outrun teh DB, run under the ball and catch it and keep on going.
If he quits or not? He is a track star trying to play football, not a football player who happens to run track. I know Hudspeth said he was our most consistent receiver all around, so I'm hoping he has potential to be better next year. He is 6'5 215 so he has the build but I would love to know how many drops he had this year..
ronartest said:
didn't do him any favors this year. His strength is his speed, not fighting for the ball in traffic. Whenever Lee would underthrow the ball, it forced Wilder to do things that weren't to his benefit.
I think Hudspeth's comments should tell all of us something about O'Neal Wilder. And remeember- he has only been playing football for a very short time. I think he will get better.
Didn't help him at all this year, his lack of motivation and drive is what makes me indifferent to him quitting or not. And he does have great speed wearing a track suit running straight away. I just haven't seen that speed with pads on yet, but maybe I hope that's just because he hasn't really had a chance to sprint. Either way I expect a lot more from him next year.
ronartest said:
because I find it odd that his position coach is talking him up if he lacks motivation and drive.
I do expect more from him next year as well, though. Remember, he was just a freshman. I think he could be really good by the time he is a senior.
The thing with Wilder is that he is a 400m guy whereas Holliday, Demps, Rainey, etc. are all 40m - 100m guys. They turn on the burners from the first step. Wilder takes a little longer to get going. Wilder is fast, but his "speed" doesn't kick in during the first 100 meters. I agree though, with that size, he could be a threat w/ improved hands.</p>
I'm not saying he isn't fast, just that his strength is at longer distances whereas the other guys (Holliday, Demps, Rainey, etc.) have speed thats more suited for football. I agree, he's definitely fast once he gets going, it just takes him a few strides to get going. I hope he stays around, improves his hands in the off-season, and catches passes from Cam Newton for the next 2 years like everyone else does.
Unless corners were just instructed to stop after 25 yds b/c that's as far as TTM can throw it (entirely plausible), it seems cb's have trouble keeping up with him down field. Didn't seem him blow by LSU's cb (patterson?) or UAT's (arenas?), but there should be some long balls to him next year.
I'm quite sure in the same article Hudspeth was quoted as saying he was most consistent he also mentioned is work ethic. Wouldn't work ethic = drive and motivation?
Oneal showed great speed on some go routes as he got good separation. As alluded to already, he was under thrown often. Although I don't think he will ever be all world, he does give us the ability to stretch the field.
Oneal showed great speed on some go routes as he got good separation. As alluded to already, he was under thrown often. Although I don't think he will ever be all world, he does give us the ability to stretch the field.
Sometimes it is better to keep your mouth shut, or learn more about running 400m.fieldman said:
I ran it between 50 and 51 seconds in high school. There are Olympic 100m runners who run 10 seconds or less. Why isn't the 400m run at 40 seconds or less? The 200m is run in the Olympics at less than 20 seconds. Why isn't the 400m run at 40 seconds or less? It could easily be run at 40 seconds or less if it was a flat sprint. Bottom line is that nobody can hold top-end speed for 400 meters. It can't be done.</p>
Edited to say that the world record for 400 meters in a relay (4 guys each run 100 m) is SIX seconds faster than one individual running 400 meters. One man can't sprint at top-end for 400 meters. There is some pacing involved. Jeremy Wariner and Michael Johnson will admit such.</p>
From Clyde Hart, coach at Baylor who coached Michael Johnson and Jeremy Wariner:</p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Technique</span> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The ability to distribute one's speed and energies in the most efficient manner over the total racing distance becomes the primary concern in reaching success in the 400 meter dash. No one is capable of running the 400 meters from start to finish all out. Good pace judgment in effort and distribution is a must. Remember, the 400 meters is not a full sprint.</span></p>
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<span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Full link if you want it</span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">http://www.nacactfca.org/articles/Hart-eng.htm</span></p>
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Edited to say that the world record for 400 meters in a relay (4 guys each run 100 m) is SIX seconds faster than one individual running 400 meters. One man can't sprint at top-end for 400 meters. There is some pacing involved. Jeremy Wariner and Michael Johnson will admit such.</p>
From Clyde Hart, coach at Baylor who coached Michael Johnson and Jeremy Wariner:</p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Technique</span> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The ability to distribute one's speed and energies in the most efficient manner over the total racing distance becomes the primary concern in reaching success in the 400 meter dash. No one is capable of running the 400 meters from start to finish all out. Good pace judgment in effort and distribution is a must. Remember, the 400 meters is not a full sprint.</span></p>
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<span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Full link if you want it</span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">http://www.nacactfca.org/articles/Hart-eng.htm</span></p>
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I'm fairly certain I heard someone in the football program this summer say that he is sub 4.4 in the forty.</p>
It should be fairly obvious from watching him flat out run past CBs that he is definitely fast.</p>
It should be fairly obvious from watching him flat out run past CBs that he is definitely fast.</p>