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Chad Morris Back at Clemson

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I heard FSU is interested in hiring Brad Scott for OC too. Morris was a good hire in 2011 for Clemson. 15 years later, there's a reason why he was coaching receivers at Texas State.
 
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Happy times are up thar again! Guess they couldn`t get Monken though. ha ha.
 
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Interesting move. Could seem like an act of desperation by Swinney or simply going back to what previously worked.

I'll say, the old saying "you can't go home again" is most often true in college football. Reunions don't usually work out nearly as well as the first time around. It's been 12 years since he was a successful OC, and a lot has changed since then. He's mostly been a journeyman since his first stint at Clemson.

So, yeah, a bit of an odd move by Dabo. When they picked up Riley, they were still close enough to their years of dominance that they could pick up someone of that caliber (though he didn't work out there, he was at the time the hottest OC name in college football). Maybe the hiring of Morris is an indication that they don't have that weight anymore. Or, again, it could just be Dabo making the comfortable move. He tried the flashy move and that didn't work.
 
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RL09 said:
I think Mike Bobo is doing pretty well at Georgia
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Yes, by our standards, but Im not sure by UGA standards, Last Natty was before Bobo, and UGA fans seem to know that, LOL

 
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Greer said:
I think this is correct. If Dabo cant turn things around they are looking at 6-6 seasons or worse and it only takes a couple of those before the fans forget past glory and want to move on.
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Clemmons has always been mediocre..... unless of course you throw in their cheating and playing in a mediocre conference. And since they can't really cheat anymore, the writing is on the wall..... and I LOVE IT!!!!

There are certain teams that would ALWAYS be about a 6 to 8, sometimes 9 win team if you could pluck them from wherever they are and FORCE them to play a legit SEC schedule. Noodle Lame is #1 on that list. Ohio St too, Clemmons, etc... definitely Oregon, etc.
 
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I4CtheFuture said:
Clemmons has always been mediocre..... unless of course you throw in their cheating and playing in a mediocre conference. And since they can't really cheat anymore, the writing is on the wall..... and I LOVE IT!!!!

There are certain teams that would ALWAYS be about a 6 to 8, sometimes 9 win team if you could pluck them from wherever they are and FORCE them to play a legit SEC schedule. Noodle Lame is #1 on that list. Ohio St too, Clemmons, etc... definitely Oregon, etc.
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Ohio state? Seriously. It’s highly questionable if the sec is even the best conference anymore. Big ten has won the last 2 and likely will get 3 in a row. Money talks.
 
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Ohio state? Seriously. It’s highly questionable if the sec is even the best conference anymore. Big ten has won the last 2 and likely will get 3 in a row. Money talks.
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I agree with you that it's questionable if the SEC is the best anymore.....we're not, THIS YEAR, perhaps last year...but I meant more or less anytime in the past decade. You take any of those historically "media darling" teams and drop them in the SEC in the past decade and they're not winning 9 games most of the time.
 
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I4CtheFuture said:
I agree with you that it's questionable if the SEC is the best anymore.....we're not, THIS YEAR, perhaps last year...but I meant more or less anytime in the past decade. You take any of those historically "media darling" teams and drop them in the SEC in the past decade and they're not winning 9 games most of the time.
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Well ok, just the last 3-4 years are not the football of old. The game has changed your statement is no longer relevant that’s what I’m saying.

I have also never bought in to that narrative about Clemson. Most years yes but the Deshaun Watson last 2 and the first Trevor Lawrence teams would have handled the SEC just fine. They demolished Alabama with Trevor Lawrence and that team plowed through the sec.
 
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Yard_Pimps said:
Well ok, just the last 3-4 years are not the football of old. The game has changed your statement is no longer relevant that’s what I’m saying.

I have also never bought in to that narrative about Clemson. Most years yes but the Deshaun Watson last 2 and the first Trevor Lawrence teams would have handled the SEC just fine. They demolished Alabama with Trevor Lawrence and that team plowed through the sec.
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"Plowed through the SEC". Playing a regular season ACC schedule (and not an SEC one)was the main reason you were in the playoff to begin with back in '16 and '18. Your starters (and entire team in general) were well rested by season's end-unlike Bama.
 
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sclawman77 said:
"Plowed through the SEC". Playing a regular season ACC schedule (and not an SEC one)was the main reason you were in the playoff to begin with back in '16 and '18. Your starters (and entire team in general) were well rested by season's end-unlike Bama.
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Didn’t realize I played football. You can blow that crap up someone else’s skirt. I disagree but you are welcome to your opinion.
 
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nlstanford said:
Good thing Dabo jumped the gun on that hire because Kingsbury is back on the market as of today. That could have been a dangerous addition.
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If Dabo had hired Kingsbury, you’d of said Morris was a better option
 
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nlstanford said:
Good thing Dabo jumped the gun on that hire because Kingsbury is back on the market as of today. That could have been a dangerous addition.
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Just saw about Kingsbury. Wonder if he'll step back to the college game. He was a wizard as OC in college. Coached Johnny Manziel, Baker Mayfield, Michael Crabtree, Patrick Mahomes. Probably some others.
 
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Yes, by our standards, but Im not sure by UGA standards, Last Natty was before Bobo, and UGA fans seem to know that, LOL

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I understand your point, UGA has incredible talent and while they did win the SEC with Bobo as OC this year, they have higher expectations since winning National Championships.
 
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Yard_Pimps said:
Well ok, just the last 3-4 years are not the football of old. The game has changed your statement is no longer relevant that’s what I’m saying.

I have also never bought in to that narrative about Clemson. Most years yes but the Deshaun Watson last 2 and the first Trevor Lawrence teams would have handled the SEC just fine. They demolished Alabama with Trevor Lawrence and that team plowed through the sec.
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I don't understand this. "Most years" isn't equivalent to 4-5 years (the Watson/ Lawrence years).
Let those Clemson teams play a man's schedule the whole year and we would've seen them show up to whatever end game with about 3-4 less starters/key contributors. Playing Wake Forest and BC every week aren't quite as taxing as Florida and Tennessee.
 
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18IsTheMan said:
Just saw about Kingsbury. Wonder if he'll step back to the college game. He was a wizard as OC in college. Coached Johnny Manziel, Baker Mayfield, Michael Crabtree, Patrick Mahomes. Probably some others.
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There is a specific offense that you just almost mentioned that all those players listed played in....we now have an OC that has big portions of that offense as part of his offense. Can't wait for the season.
 
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DeBoer31 said:
I don't understand this. "Most years" isn't equivalent to 4-5 years (the Watson/ Lawrence years).
Let those Clemson teams play a man's schedule the whole year and we would've seen them show up to whatever end game with about 3-4 less starters/key contributors. Playing Wake Forest and BC every week aren't quite as taxing as Florida and Tennessee.
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Imagine if Bama (back when they were a powerhouse) played a creampuff ACC schedule against Wake and Duke from 2016-2018 and how rested they would have been for the playoffs. It would have been a walk in the park to win the championship.
 
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