Agreed, I clearly stated that in my first post. Go read before getting defensive, maybe this is why people are fed up with you guys!!
Chest Thumping
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Blue let's let these guys come play us here and see what happens whatever does I'll accept but they going to be defenced to death
MaxPrep let me go back to 2004 and Mount Airy vs SMC Mount Airy won 5 to SMC - 2. MA shut out SMC in 2 games & SMC had 1. MA outscored them by a bundle in the 7 game total. I have the scores if anyone wants to see them.
Nobody cares about that. We just want to know the best way to get to North Stokes.
You are on top of a mountain, just start digging till you get there. Oh make sure you dig in a downward & southeast direction and not straight down, it may start getting hot.
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Shelby had a bunch of nchsaa titles. Count those if you want to. Reidsville has alot of titles ofcouse they been playing football since the 1800s.
Who do you compare schools when one has been around alot longer than another?
You look at the percentage.
If I remember correctly Robbinsville averages a state title every 5 years of our existence. That win percentage is not matched by Reidsville or any other.
Who do you compare schools when one has been around alot longer than another?
You look at the percentage.
If I remember correctly Robbinsville averages a state title every 5 years of our existence. That win percentage is not matched by Reidsville or any other.
No one can take away what you've accomplished...take a few away from Murphy if they played where most you SMC guys say they should have. There are epic battles of a few SMC posters goin back and forth about Murphy...especially from a few Robbinsville posters. Last 10 years in Big 1a champiinship appearances flatlanders have trumped you guys in appearances in the nw1a. Robbinsvile/Murphy is still the standard.. History is great and honestly teams know its gonna be an uphill battle facing a few of the Smc teams.
All ya gotta do now is prove it goin forward..it sounds like it should be easy for ya...1 division for all the marbles..i mean you guys are always sayin your little 1a title teams would have won it all..should be easy .Everyone Respects the conference..but its you guys who never recognize other teams or conferences..other than Michell yet they are O'fer for titles.
Listen man
Robbinsville has 370 kids on a good year.
What is the expectation of a school that size? Number matter in football more than any other sport. I think Robbinsville plays above our numbers. No other schools that size is in the conversation almost yearly. Not winning 1aa doesn't mean robbinsville isn't a great program. It's about like MA with over 500 kids having to go through the playoffs with teams up to 1,000 kids. It would about be impossible for MA. It's just math. Look at the top ten 1a schools this year. Robbinsville is the smallest by far. No one wants to see Robbinsville with 500+ kids.
So my question is what do you expected from Robbinsville with 370 kids?
I think we overachieve.
Does MA overachieve, underachieve or about equal for their enrollment?
Robbinsville has 370 kids on a good year.
What is the expectation of a school that size? Number matter in football more than any other sport. I think Robbinsville plays above our numbers. No other schools that size is in the conversation almost yearly. Not winning 1aa doesn't mean robbinsville isn't a great program. It's about like MA with over 500 kids having to go through the playoffs with teams up to 1,000 kids. It would about be impossible for MA. It's just math. Look at the top ten 1a schools this year. Robbinsville is the smallest by far. No one wants to see Robbinsville with 500+ kids.
So my question is what do you expected from Robbinsville with 370 kids?
I think we overachieve.
Does MA overachieve, underachieve or about equal for their enrollment?
P.S.
Robbinsville enrollment of 370 is actually 370. If we had a charter or early college we would probably be around 300. What would all you others school enrollment be without those EC and charters pulling your numbers down without pulling the number of athletes down?
Robbinsville enrollment of 370 is actually 370. If we had a charter or early college we would probably be around 300. What would all you others school enrollment be without those EC and charters pulling your numbers down without pulling the number of athletes down?
good post..#'s almost a moot point these days in 1a when you have the same amount on the sidelines participating..you would be hard pressed to say a team with 25-30 players in a school with 500 kids enrolled is any different than the 25-30 that come out for Robbinsville. It may matter when you play against bigger 2 ,3, and 4a schools..but 1a schools when there is so much more things for kids to do besides sweat and work hard for football daily..not so much...Robbinsville overachieves because the 30 or so kids that come out for the team actually breathe mountain football..so let the #'s game go...because if you aren't careful it sounds already like a built in excuse. The disparity in numbers in 1a only matters when a team has 50-60 players..bigger schools these days does not equal bigger participation on most accounts in 1a ball. Lots of respect but the 25 or 30 Murphy or Robbinsville kids are used to winning you have way more of a chance to get better talented kids to come out simply because of your tradition they will want to play because of what they grew up hearing about the tradion..That's a good thing.
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BK’s point is true man. Facts don’t lie. SMC has 39 state championships between 5 teams. Robbinsville has 15 by themselves. It doesn’t matter if it’s Mt. Airy, Mitchell, Starmount, West Montgomery etc. we would still be having this same conversation with a fan of any team. It’s almost like some of you are taking this way too personal. Yall get sick and tired of hearing about the SMC, when other teams and other conferences start consistently beating us, then maybe in a couple years it’ll be a different conversation we will be having. But as it stands right now, roads to the state title “run through” the SMC until proven otherwise. We may not have a title contender this year and I’m sure some of you Mt. Airy fans and others will come back to some of these posts and say we are wrong, but just always keep in the back of your head that Murphy, Robbinsville, Swain, Cherokee and Andrews will probably all be back in the playoff field again next year. We may be seeking revenge, well that is if you even beat us this year……
And if I remember correctly, didn’t one of you guys say welcome to big boy ball? Funny how when numbers start coming out, that big boy talk gets watered down to how numbers don’t really matter in 1a/1aa ball. If that’s the case, why would someone say that it’s big boy ball.
Wow he just said 370 is the same as 500+. Wow.
I promise you robbinsville has backups that wouldn't even play at other schools.
Depth is huge.
We will have to disagree on this one.
I promise you robbinsville has backups that wouldn't even play at other schools.
Depth is huge.
We will have to disagree on this one.
MA has always been smallest school playing in 1AA WHEN it was split. Does make a difference.
I remember many years MA would play Albemarle or Thomasville in playoffs and they would dress like 50 to our 28 or so. We played both ways they didn't. Makes difference. And they were dang good when we played them.
We sure can agree to disagree.and we do...kinda like no one will ever touch Jordan...i get it...Smc gets respect..they fail to give it...and 500+ kids with no football tradition at their school is just that..a bunch of kids..who still dont come out for the team. If the numbers meant so much..then everytime you played somebody they would have 20 plus more kids...most schools dont..And i throw the big boy moniker out there because they're in 1aa the mtn teams have a perennial cake walk...its def not your fault the small 1a bottom teams suck that much....but the top big 1a teams provide more a challenge than any small 1 a competitors you will meet in the deep rounds every year. I agree with smc being a very good conference..but #s anymore are again a moot point in 1a....Elkin used to do tje same thing with 300 kids..but couldnt sustain it. Starmount used to beat good 3a schools with double the numbers repeatedly...Starmount use to be the standard...but have since fell off and have not sustained like Robbinsville and Murphy have sustained.
The talent was the difference...not the #'s. Their team speed back then was something you couldn't prepare for...i dont care if you did have 50 players on your team.
Whats the difference in Elkins runs with their 19 players that won titles with shut down defense and were in waaay better game shape than everyone they played... i would easily put the 2003 Elkin team with any 1a team i have ever saw other than '19 East Surry regardless of size...one of the Swain teams may have been 05 cant remember....they had 50 -60 players when EW played them that year..and they were very good...super physical
You will never convince me that numbers don't matter. If we had more kids to choose from we would have better starters and our back ups would be better. Some years we have kids that only start because we don't have anyone else.
Believe me
Robbinsville with 500 kids would be way better than Robbinsville with 370 kids.
Look at the state champs in 1a. It's almost always a school near the cutoff.
Another thing to consider is SMC sophomores all play Varsity because of low numbers. We will always be younger than teams in other confrences.
Believe me
Robbinsville with 500 kids would be way better than Robbinsville with 370 kids.
Look at the state champs in 1a. It's almost always a school near the cutoff.
Another thing to consider is SMC sophomores all play Varsity because of low numbers. We will always be younger than teams in other confrences.
Thats a yrs advantage of varsity play that other schools dont get to see...def an advantage...but if the #'s mattered that much....why beat ashville...this year....why beat murphy this year...why beat Swain...stop sandbagging my Guy
We beat Asheville because we bust them in the mouth and they didn’t want anything after that. Kinda like we do to most school. Numbers don’t mean you can or can’t win. Smaller Numbers make it harder to recover from an injured starter. Smaller numbers mean playing both ways. We beat bigger teams because we set the tone early. We aren’t scared of Mt Airy or Eastern Randolph. We will line up and play you just like we would anyone else.
This guy is being silly now.
He must be from a bigger school and doesn't want to acknowledge his team would have an huge advantage over a team under 400. He is actually trying to play it like Robbinsville has the advantage. He has made a couple of comments like that. He is in the minority on this.
I'm done. He is either being silly or a few marble short.
He must be from a bigger school and doesn't want to acknowledge his team would have an huge advantage over a team under 400. He is actually trying to play it like Robbinsville has the advantage. He has made a couple of comments like that. He is in the minority on this.
I'm done. He is either being silly or a few marble short.
I'm From a 1 a school with larger #s and mediocre talent ...#'s in 1a dont matter as much...no one said you were scared..it's not boxing..but now that everyone is under one umbrella..now you start belly aching.about numbers....listen Robbinsville may win it all this year..but your silly azz will still be cryin about numbers and sandbagging like you do every year...if MA or ER wins it or not..it will be just as hard...not easy for anyone..you guys will suit 30 or more for the playoffs...that have experience and have been there before....lol its almost like you want people to feel sorry for your little title town with low numbers but more championships than anyone.....Lay off the pipe man..btw..be done bro..i have never needed the majority pool to state and stick with my opinion...you have yours...and you wont sway me from mine.
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Riddle me this. If numbers matter so much, then why does Mitchell have constant success over McDowell? Why does Robbinsville have the success that they do? Why does Mount Airy have continued success over North Surry? By your logic, Myers Park should be the best team, year after year, by a wide margin. Numbers matter, but you know what matters more? Tradition, coaching, support, kids that buy into the program year after year. How in the hell does a team like Madison have any sort of advantage over a team like Robbinsville, or even Mitchell for that matter. Thet don't. Your logic is flawed, and this is just the next thing for Robbinsville fans to whine about. We've been through Murphy, early colleges, charter schools, religious schools, adm's, split classifications, aliens, democrats, and every other conspiracy that's been keeping Robbinsville down for decades. You are the only fan base that could have 15 state championships, and still have something to complain about. Ya'll brag, and you back it up. East Surry fans bragged, and they backed it up. Let Mount Airy fans brag too. Time will tell if they back it up.
Mitchell County member....you are so spot on with that post...If you've never seen a winner and a crybaby encapsulated in one person..check out BK13..king of crying as his team wins
Not entirely true buzz
We don't have JVs. We have Junior High. 8th and 9th graders.
Only freshman can move up. Those kids usually don't play though. If they was good enough to play they would started the freshman season on Varsity.
We don't have JVs. We have Junior High. 8th and 9th graders.
Only freshman can move up. Those kids usually don't play though. If they was good enough to play they would started the freshman season on Varsity.
All jokes and trash talk aside...the SMC is no joke..and it is smart and real to hate to see them in your bracket...They play a different brand of ball up there...i just like busting their chops...but them mtn boys bring that wood intensely!!!! I have seen it nullify all speed and #'s advantages more times than i care to count
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!!!Get ready mountain boys , I feel some Mount Airy stats coming from old TD or even better we get to hear 08 Bears was the best team of all time , hell they even took Bama to the wire !
I have seen MA beat a SMC team and then lose next Friday bc was so banged up from how physical especialy Swain yes.
Yeah it was just freshman.
Robbinsville probably has 43 on the team now but 9 or ten are freshman that moved up after the junior high season ended.
Robbinsville probably has 43 on the team now but 9 or ten are freshman that moved up after the junior high season ended.
The SMC teams I have seen play have good coaching. Sometimes that can be the difference because they use their strengths.
Numbers matter but I think having a winning culture and tradition in a community is the most important thing.
For example, in Tarboro, and I’m sure it’s the same for Robbinsville, Murphy, Mt. Airy, Mitchell, etc - from the time kids are 8 years old they want to be apart of Tarboro football because they’ve seen the success and they want to apart of it. So they start playing and practicing at a young age to prepare for the day they get to play on the varsity teams. So you create a continuous pipeline of players in the community that want to be apart of the tradition.
I think that’s biggest reason why Tarboro has dominated Southwest Edgecombe in the county since the 70’s despite Southwest always being a significantly larger school.
For example, in Tarboro, and I’m sure it’s the same for Robbinsville, Murphy, Mt. Airy, Mitchell, etc - from the time kids are 8 years old they want to be apart of Tarboro football because they’ve seen the success and they want to apart of it. So they start playing and practicing at a young age to prepare for the day they get to play on the varsity teams. So you create a continuous pipeline of players in the community that want to be apart of the tradition.
I think that’s biggest reason why Tarboro has dominated Southwest Edgecombe in the county since the 70’s despite Southwest always being a significantly larger school.
Exactly what i said earlier...Tradition trumps numbers by far!!! If you have both you will be hard to handle.