Chris Beard arrested
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Because it’s never in your best interest to talk to cops or provide them with anything, guilty or not.
People really believe there aren’t cops that don’t look to put anyone in jail to solve a case, people who flat out lie(which should be obvious, and then mistakes) that lead to innocent people being put away for things they didn’t do.
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So it’s not inconceivable that he left to avoid confrontation? Also just because he provided audio doesn’t mean anything, they still would have arrested him.Simply not wanting to press charges isn't changing a story.
If he has the audio, it would have been released by now. Irregardless, what would excuse leaving her battered and choking her? She is quite a bit smaller than him. I don't think it would require much on his part to prevent her from hurting him or restraining her without battering and choking. You would also expect him to have some bruises or marks if he was being attacked by her. Not to mention, of there is audio, why not provide it to law enforcement so they don't charge you and charge her instead? Why did he flee is own house?
What smells funny about it to you?
She can't drop the charges, that's up to the state.
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This surprises you why? What would you do in that situation? The cops are arresting him either way and cops aren't investigators.
Know what I would do, I would take that recording to my attorney.
Not only that, but he's still in a relationship with her, he may not want things getting out that could shine a bad light on her.
This really isn't that hard to understand guys, there is a right way and a wrong way to handle these situations. You never talk to the cops or investigators without an attorney present when there is a situation like this.
Spoken like someone that has no idea how these things work. Would you be willing to put 20 years on the line if you were him? I bet you wouldn't.
The only people that knew what really happened, was Brian Banks and the accuser. When a woman says she was raped, how are you going to disprove her?
There are people that have spent a lot more time than 5.2 years in prison for stuff they didn't do and it was because they knew they were innocent and thought they would get justified in court.
This is obviously something you know little about. I don't know you, I think you're an asshat, but I hope you're never in Brian's shoes, because it's a no win situation. The only way he gets out of that, is if there was proof it was consentual, or she admitted she lied, which is what eventually happened.
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What if that woman is from East Germany, is 6’8 and weights 250 pounds and is smashing your face in?
STFU
LMMFAO, no, all that does is trash the victim.
What, are you thinking he is just going to drive to CNN headquarters in Atlanta and give them his audio?
You think he should just hand over his phone to officer Martinez there in his front yard that only knows how to twirl his baton?
No, that audio goes to his lawyer, then they sit down with investigators and the victim. This doesn't just go public. You watch too many cartoons and fake cop shows where they solve crimes in 22 minutes due to commercials.
This incident supposedly happened in September, it took 3-4 months for it to come out, but you think CB's audio is just going to get broadcasted the night he gets arrested.
Ahhh, life in fairytale land must be awesome.
You would be a damn idiot if you gave that recording to the police at the scene. They were arresting him either way, you do understand that, right?
Respectfully, @BigCat241 , that is a dangerously naïve take on the subject. You can literally never help yourself even a little bit by saying anything ever to the police (unless you're asking them for immediate physical help) and you are very highly likely to incriminate yourself even if you are completely innocent. Don't take my word for it. Take it from a veteran defense attorney and a veteran police officer backing him up (and saying that guy didn't even give the whole of it).
Exactly. Very well said. You never, ever just start talking to the police without your lawyer sitting right there.
Soooo many people have made that mistake and they paid dearly for it.
BigCat and Lead Belly best start reading up on how this works, one day they could find themselves in a bad situation and will just start jabbering away.
Exactly right. Investigators want one thing, to say they solved the case. Most of them don't care if you're innocent or not, if they believe you did it, that’s all that matters.
You don't just roll the dice in this situation.
Here's a prime example of why you don't just spill your guts, guilty or not.
Shayna Hubers shot her bf in the face, then, unloaded the gun on him. She couldn't stop talking and totally incriminated herself. If she had just shut her mouth and hired an attorney, she might have only gotten a few years, but nope, she followed the LeadBelly and BigCat methods, now, she's in prison until she dies.
Shayna Hubers shot her bf in the face, then, unloaded the gun on him. She couldn't stop talking and totally incriminated herself. If she had just shut her mouth and hired an attorney, she might have only gotten a few years, but nope, she followed the LeadBelly and BigCat methods, now, she's in prison until she dies.
Yes! I love all the true crime channels on YouTube and those are a few of the best (I think you mean 'That Chapter'). I really like Crime Circus because he has the full length police interrogations in most cases. He also has a second channel called 'Crime Circus Cult' now. It is fascinating to watch a suspect being broke down over time and eventually confess.
Yes, the Chris Watts one is a real good one. Another really good one is out of Georgia related to a guy named Brett Kelly (conspired with his older girlfriend that worked with an older lady to kidnap her and steal a password to try and wire money out of the law firm the older girlfriend worked at). Another really good series of interrogations relates to Todd Kohlhepp out of South Carolina (realtor serial killer). I think you can find all of those on Crime Circus or at least elsewhere on YouTube. It's fascinating going down the True Crime rabbit hole.
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Yea, it's pretty inconceivable that in the middle of the night he is going to flee his home if he was innocent. Why not go to another room? Why not just go sit outside in the car? Leaving doesn't make a lot of sense for an innocent person.
Well, sure it would mean something. He would easily be able to prove she was the agressor, which would mean he had a right to defend himself. If he could have proven that to the cops, she would have been arrested. He likely would have never been charged if that was the case.
What was I wrong about?
Yes! I am not going to admit to something I didn't do. Particularly if it's something as awful as rape.
You do realize people get accused of rape all the time and prove the accuser was lying, right? How do you think they do it?
Sure, because they have very bad criminal defense attorneys.
You keep telling me I don't understand how it works, but you do understand a defendant doesn't have to prove anything, right? It's on the prosecution to prove things beyond a reasonable doubt in a criminal case. So all he and his defense needed to do was show reasonable doubt. In this case, that really shouldn't have been that difficult. DNA from Body fluid, medical examinations to prove rape, witness statements from people who would be able to discredit her timeline, video feed from the school are just a few examples of ways to do that.
I know quite a bit more about it than you think. People who get good defense teams are often pleaded down or have the charges dropped. You certainly never admit to a crime as serious as rape if you're innocent. That's criminal law 101.
Isn't that the point? Don't you want to discredit her statements as much as possible?LMMFAO, no, all that does is trash the victim.
What, are you thinking he is just going to drive to CNN headquarters in Atlanta and give them his audio?
You think he should just hand over his phone to officer Martinez there in his front yard that only knows how to twirl his baton?
No, that audio goes to his lawyer, then they sit down with investigators and the victim. This doesn't just go public. You watch too many cartoons and fake cop shows where they solve crimes in 22 minutes due to commercials.
This incident supposedly happened in September, it took 3-4 months for it to come out, but you think CB's audio is just going to get broadcasted the night he gets arrested.
Ahhh, life in fairytale land must be awesome.
Why would he have to do that? Couldn't he or his attorneys release it on their own to whomever wants it? Couldn't they post it on social media and allow it to spread on its own? Couldn't they just give it to law enforcement?
I certainly would give it to law enforcement if it proved my innocence. Why would he just keep it secret?
Why wouldn't it go public? These things tend to go public all the time. Why would you want to keep it private if it proves your innocence?
Happened in September? Lol, what? Do you even know WTF you're talking about? It happened Monday morning, moron.
Good Lord, you just keep proving you're here strictly to argue. You don't even know the facts of what you're arguing about.
Yup, I have seen al those interrogations.
The one in Georgia where the woman was screwing her sons friend was really awful. What they did to that woman was crazy. Held her captive while the mom went to the office to steal money from the firm. The kid raped her, then choked her to death. My jaw was on the floor watching those interviews.
I watched the Todd Kohlhepp a few times actually. It’s fascinating.
I'm waiting for the interrogations to come out on the Wagner family from the Pike County Ohio massacre. That case is mind blowing. They just made it through 1 trial, but I really want to see the interrogations.
I can't even begin to tell you how wrong you are. You simply don't get it and again, I hope, for your sake, that you are never in Brian Banks' situation, because you would spend a ton of time in prison and have to register as a sex offender for life.What was I wrong about?
Yes! I am not going to admit to something I didn't do. Particularly if it's something as awful as rape.
You do realize people get accused of rape all the time and prove the accuser was lying, right? How do you think they do it?
Sure, because they have very bad criminal defense attorneys.
You keep telling me I don't understand how it works, but you do understand a defendant doesn't have to prove anything, right? It's on the prosecution to prove things beyond a reasonable doubt in a criminal case. So all he and his defense needed to do was show reasonable doubt. In this case, that really shouldn't have been that difficult. DNA from Body fluid, medical examinations to prove rape, witness statements from people who would be able to discredit her timeline, video feed from the school are just a few examples of ways to do that.
I know quite a bit more about it than you think. People who get good defense teams are often pleaded down or have the charges dropped. You certainly never admit to a crime as serious as rape if you're innocent. That's criminal law 101.
Good luck to you.
Um, she admitted to multiple people she purposefully killed him.
She lied and got caught. She didn't admit a truth.
Ironically, her BF was a law student at NKU.
Isn't that the point? Don't you want to discredit her statements as much as possible?
Why would he have to do that? Couldn't he or his attorneys release it on their own to whomever wants it? Couldn't they post it on social media and allow it to spread on its own? Couldn't they just give it to law enforcement?
I certainly would give it to law enforcement if it proved my innocence. Why would he just keep it secret?
Why wouldn't it go public? These things tend to go public all the time. Why would you want to keep it private if it proves your innocence?
Happened in September? Lol, what? Do you even know WTF you're talking about? It happened Monday morning, moron.
Good Lord, you just keep proving you're here strictly to argue. You don't even know the facts of what you're arguing about.
Man, you're the type of guy that interrogators would have a field day with.
Trust me, you're wrong, but believe what you want.
And you accusing me of being here just to argue, is so laughably bad. The irony in that statement is thick enough to cut with a butter knife. Wow.
Yes, that’s exactly right, she never shut her mouth. She certainly did admit to killing him, but then she kept saying "but it was in self defense", then, while being recorded in the interview room, she was by herself and kept saying stupid things like, "I did it, I really did it" and "I'm such a good actress".
All of that was used against her. If she had just shut her mouth and got an attorney, she would have been far better off.
After reading your posts in this thread, I get the feeling you would make the exact same mistakes she did.
You shut your mouth and get an attorney, whether you're guilty or not.
So what am I wrong about?
I am white with money. I wouldn't be charged with anything.
Doubtful. They don't tend to love the boring honest people. We make their jobs less interesting.
Man, you're the type of guy that interrogators would have a field day with.
Trust me, you're wrong, but believe what you want.
And you accusing me of being here just to argue, is so laughably bad. The irony in that statement is thick enough to cut with a butter knife. Wow.
So what am I wrong about? Give specifics.
You obviously are here to troll. You just admitted you don't even know the facts when you suggested it happened in Sept. You are just here to argue with others. It's evident.
Right! That's going to get you locked up when you admit to a crime.
She may have gotten less time, but she was going away regardless as she intentionally killed a man with no evidence it was self-defense.
You're comparing someone who admitted the truth to killing someone vs someone who deny's involvment with alleged evidence to prove their innocence. That's apples and oranges.
You always get an attorney, which Beard already had. But any attorney is going to tell you to turn over any evidence that exonerates you. Always tell the truth if it's in your favor. Considering Beard didn't, that suggests it was helpful or didn't exist.
Yeah, that's the Brett Kelly one. One of the detectives in that one (Chapman I think is his name) is one of the best I've ever seen at breaking down a suspect. He's also hilarious in that interview. I've seen him in a few different interrogations. That Brett kid starts off all cocky but by the end they have him crying on the phone to his mom. It almost sounded like the mom may have known something about what was either going to happen or what did happen but I'm not sure if she was ever investigated.
Yeah, he was all over the mom in that interview room. He had a lot of energy.
I am still shocked at what they did to that woman though. But I shouldn't be shocked, I've seen so many cases like that one. There are so many evil people out there and they all think they'll get away with it.
With all the technology out there now, especially with touch dna, you would be a fool if you committed a murder right now.
The Wagner family that committed the 7 murders in pike county Ohio, thought they could fool everyone. They planned it for years. They were actually very clever, but all they did was buy a little more freedom.
I'm not going through this crap with you. All you want to do is turn this into another merry go round. No thanks.
You live to disagree and that’s all you're doing right now. Good luck to you
Absolutely. It's going to be interesting to see how the Idaho case goes. Nothing so far but I'm sure a big part of it is waiting on DNA test results to come back. Crime Circus has a few videos out on that and you can tell he thinks it's one of the ex-boyfriends (Jack D.) and I tend to agree with him.
I'll have to look at the Wagner case. I think I know that one but I might be mixing that up with another one.
It would take days to go through all the info on the wagners. The mom was one of the most controlling people I've ever seen.
Her youngest son was dating a girl from the Rhoden family. They had a baby, split up, then a huge custody battle started. The Wagner mom was obsessed with babies, she wanted total control of the baby, so for years, they planned what they did in 2016. They snuck into 3 of 4 mobile homes. Killed 7 members of the Rhoden family. They spared two babies. One of the victims was a 16 year old.
The one they didn't sneak into was the father of the teenaged girl, they shot him with a large cal weapon, through the door, then went in, beat the hell out of him and his cousin and finished them off execution style.
All over custody of a child.
Dude, you don't even know when these events actually transpired. You ignorantly thought it was sometime in September. You also compared a highschool kid who stupidly admitted guilt to a crime he didn't committ and a college girl who killed her bf in cold-blood and admitted it on a police interrogation room recording, to Beard releasing a recording that would allegedly prove his innocence.
It's evident you're just here for the sake of arguing about something you have proven to know little to nothing about.
Good luck to you as well!
I’m looking at the context of the situation. Now if Beard felt the way u did and thought giving anything to the police would be harmful, why would tell the officers at the scene in the first place that he has said recording if he wasn’t willing to show it to them? The very very likely answer to that is that there was no recording.
Why would u tell and plead to police that you have that recording and then be like “oh I don’t want to show it to you guys actually, I will wait to show my lawyers”?
This is the 2nd or 3rd time (that all of this happened in September) I have heard this in this thread. Maybe I am misunderstanding your point... Are you saying he allegedly beat up his fiance in September and now it is just coming to light? If so, could you provide a link to that info, I would appreciate it as I haven't seen anything from any other place that has indicated thatLMMFAO, no, all that does is trash the victim.
What, are you thinking he is just going to drive to CNN headquarters in Atlanta and give them his audio?
You think he should just hand over his phone to officer Martinez there in his front yard that only knows how to twirl his baton?
No, that audio goes to his lawyer, then they sit down with investigators and the victim. This doesn't just go public. You watch too many cartoons and fake cop shows where they solve crimes in 22 minutes due to commercials.
This incident supposedly happened in September, it took 3-4 months for it to come out, but you think CB's audio is just going to get broadcasted the night he gets arrested.
Ahhh, life in fairytale land must be awesome.
You do have a point there. May, anyway. I'm speaking only to what he didn't say. Whatever his dumb *** did say is on him.
The only way he can remotely explain this is if she went after him with a knife Fatal Attraction style. But he will likely be fired, but will not go to jail if she doesn't press charges. If he's guilty, and he likely is, he should be fired and not get a cent.
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