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Rabid

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I think most people would say that our DL in our strongest unit and RBs are the weakest unit.

Our OL is probably our second strongest unit. That bodes well for our RBs and our team as a whole. Although I don't have any proof that our RBs will perform well, I just feel that we'll be okay at that position.
 
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Coach34

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We would be much better on offense by going to the Spread, believe me when I say we won't really miss Dixon. Our scheme will create the success in the run game. We have good players at Rb and a good OL. If we make a few more throws, our run game will even be better next year
 
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lawdawg02

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If they did, they should've left with Croom.

I think we'll miss Dixon, simply because he was outstanding last year. But, with our OL being in year 2 of the system (and actually looking like a solid returning unit), and with our passing game hopefully becoming respectable, we'll still have success running the football. I don't know that any of our backs will drop 200+ in any one game, but I think our RB by committee will get the job done.
 
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Elliot showed us pretty much nothing last year. He had one game or two late in the season where he ascended to average. I'd like to think Elliot has continued to improve.

But as it stands, our best RB has proven to be average-at-best, while all the other RBs have never seen the field.

That's not to say we'll suck at RB. But right now you have to say that's the weak point. If RB isn't our weak point, what is?
 
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futaba.79

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somebody file this away.

I agree with you on Relf/Russell. But "won't really miss Dixon" is crazy talk.
 
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lawdawg02 said:
If they did, they should've left with Croom.

I think we'll miss Dixon, simply because he was outstanding last year. But, with our OL being in year 2 of the system (and actually looking like a solid returning unit), and with our passing game hopefully becoming respectable, we'll still have success running the football. I don't know that any of our backs will drop 200+ in any one game, but I think our RB by committee will get the job done.
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We probably won't have one guy who can carry the load like Dixon did, but I think this unit (RB by committee) will get the job done.
 
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Coach34

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Saddawg and I repeatedly talked about how the Spread would make us better offensively just by alignment only. And we were met with "schemes don't win games- players do", "our OL sux so it won't matter", "we don't have the WR's to run the Spread"....and so on....and it was by numerous posters on here..

I will give HD6 some credit- he actually got on board and agreed with us as well....

I say we won't miss Dixon because if you look at alot of our plays this season, we had gaping holes for Dixon to run through. Without a doubt, Dixon made some great plays himself, but we have some guys taking over that are going to be making some great plays too.

The premise is still the same though- our scheme forces team's to line-up a certain way. And if we make some thows, they are going to have to back off, allowing us to outnumber them in the box. And with our OL, Relf, and the RB's we have- we will continue to have a very good running game.

**edited to add**- here's an oldie for you lawdawg

http://sixpackspeak.yuku.com?topic=7664?page=1
 
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Coach34

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futaba said:
somebody file this away.

I agree with you on Relf/Russell. But "won't really miss Dixon" is crazy talk.
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Our running game is not going to miss a beat in 2010. Dixon didn't just suddenly get alot better last season, but our scheme did. And if Relf/Russell make some throws, our running game will be just as good or better than last year. Dixon had some gaping holes to run thru in 2009. Now that we may actually have a few decent WR's, defenses still won't be able to over-commit to the box and we will out-number them. And as everybody knows, out-numbering them in the box means we are going to run it down people's throats.
 
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Rabid

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Hanrahan.

I don't know how well he's going to run the ball. However, we know what we're going to get with his blocking. That can only help our running game.
 
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paindonthurt_

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So I could go out there and play running back and we'd be just as good there?

Losing Dixon might not hurt, but that will only be if we can find one guy or a group of guys who can replace him. If we have a bunch of guys that suck then it will definitely matter.
 
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msumhsfan

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Madkin maybe? Whichever way the QB battle goes i consider it a victory that a nat. media person doesn't think it our weakest position
 
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Coach34

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where the RB didnt get touched until he was 6-7 yards past the LOS...hell, we had Elliot getting 9 yards a pop on straight dives at the end of last season...

Putting you in the Spread would indeed make a difference, but having a competent college RB in there means we won't miss a beat. And we will have a couple of those
 
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chew1095

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I think we will certainly miss Dixon next year, but the reality of this past season is that we needed him a lot more than I hope we do this upcoming year. I think our RB stats will miror Florida's to a certain extent. We will not have one RB go for 250+ carries and 1500 yards, but we should have similar numbers spread out amongst Ballard, Conner, Perkins and Elliott. Lets not forget that we do return our second leading rusher off last years team in Relf, who happened to be suspended for 2 games last season.
 
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patdog

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Saying we won't miss Dixon is a bit of an exaggeration, but we really won't miss him that much. We have a good offensive scheme, a good offensive line, and a group of potentially good RBs. We're going to run the ball a lot next season and we're going to run it well.
 
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tenureplan

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is due to C34 being unable to admit how good Dixon was because it would hurt his Charles Scott > Dixon argument.

Other than that, I think coach is spot on with his assessment of our running game.</p>
 
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missed. It will be running back by committee with alot of different looks and formations and with a group of backs that all bring something different to the table. I think we will run it and throw it better than we have in a long time.
 
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Coach34

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Dixon is a good RB and did a great job for us last year. I'm just saying we will be as effective if not better in the run game this Fall, which means- we won't miss Dixon
 
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paindonthurt_

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It might mean we won't openly notice it, but it will def. matter.

Yes we had some plays last year where things were wide open, but we also had some plays that were only made (or went for extra yardage) b/c we had a really good running back. Those are the times it will matter.
 
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Coach34

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thanks to the search feature, we can go back and look at who said what 6 months from now when we arent "missing a beat" on offense

And this doesn't even take into account how most Spread teams are much better in year 2 than in year 1 due to knowing the system much better
 
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paindonthurt_

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If no one else is as good as Dixon or close, then we won't be better.

You argument is that by opening up the offense more we'll still be able to run the ball like we did last year (b/c of scheme, being able to throw better, etc.). Do I understand this correctly? Yes or no?

If yes, then can you admit that while we'll be good running the ball due to those factors that having a really good running back (dixon) with those same factors involved would make us that much better?

Meaning all things equal what gives you better production?

A. running back with NCAA rating of 95
B. running back with NCAA rating of 83
 
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Coach34

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a RB playing for us next season as good as the Senior version of Anthony Dixon...but i'm telling you that is not going to matter...and we are going to still have some good RB's- there's not going to be much dropoff in talent
 
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[b said:
msumhsfan[/b]]Madkin maybe? Whichever way the QB battle goes i consider it a victory that a nat. media person doesn't think it our weakest position
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Since you put it that way, now I'm concerned.
 
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Rabid

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That's debatable. James Johnson, Keifer McGee and Jerious Norwood are the names you'll hear most often in that argument.

I hope you are right that we'll run and throw better than we have in a while. That would be good to see.
 
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paindonthurt_

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I think Montrell and Perkins are going to be really good in time.

I still say if AD is 15 to 20 % better than anyone we have next year then we'd be 15 to 20 % better in our running game if all else is equal (i'm trying to put this into number to quantify what i think you are saying and what I'm saying).
 
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Coach34

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I'm saying we won't miss a beat and our RB's by committee will match what Dixon did LAST YEAR.

I'm not disputing that putting a better RB with a better line and better group of WR's like we will have THIS YEAR wouldnt make us even better. But better OL + better WR's + RB's we have in 2010 = or > offense from 2009.... aka- we won't miss a beat in our running game
 
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