Chris Low Ranks Recruiting Classes

Shmuley

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"ESPN"

You don't need to read anything remotely related to recruiting that comes from that place. ESPN simply sucks in recruiting analysis. Just avoid it.

Any alleged recruiting service that takes one half-assed glance at Auburn's class and ranks it anywhere but #8 or #9 in CUSA has no f'n clue. State is #4 in the west, possibly #3.
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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...the current criteria for believing MSU's recruiting class is #6 in the SECW is that you have been living on a tiny island by yourself for 2 years a' la Tom Hanks in Cast Away.

Even a burning hatred for all things MSU should not lead any capable writer down such an ignorant path.
 

xxxWalkTheDawg

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When someone starts opening their mouth for commentary... the place immediately goes to **** and loses all credibility. Those idiots gave Keith Olbermann a job for 5 or so years for crying out loud.
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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WalkTheDawg said:
When someone starts opening their mouth for commentary... the place immediately goes to **** and loses all credibility. Those idiots gave Keith Olbermann a job for 5 or so years for crying out loud.
I don't have a problem with ESPN ex-employees (whether it be Keith Olbermann, Rush Limbaugh or Che Guevara).

What I do have a problem with is current ESPN recruiting "experts" who are getting paid by ESPN to spread ignorant garbage.
 

RebelBruiser

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they're from someone else.

And I seem to remember some State fans a few years back touting ESPN over Scout and Rivals because they had MSU's class ranked the highest. I guess the most accurate service just depends on which one has your class rated the highest. I've noticed that Arkansas fans swear by Rivals, and some MSU fans in an earlier thread swear that Scout is the best. Coincidentally, those are the services that have their respective teams ranked the highest.

Hint: None of them have a freaking clue. Or the least you can say is that any of their guesses are as good as the rest.

Edited to add: If they insist on ranking classes, I wish they'd add a component to determine how well a team met their needs. Not sure how you'd do it, but regardless, you can have a really highly rated recruiting class that doesn't give you what you need. For instance, if you're set on the offensive side of the ball with a lot of young talent, and most of your two deep on defense are rising seniors, then you need to recruit defensive players. If you go out and land all the top WRs, QBs, and RBs in the country, you may end up with a really highly rated class, but your recruiting class sucked as far as getting what you needed.
 

lawdawg02

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i would think it would be odd for the scout guy to be SO far away from his own network's rankings. they have us 4th in the west, 6th in the conference. here are scout's current rankings for the sec:

</p> <table id="Table1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1" width="100%" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td><span id="Cell-1_Title" style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18px">SEC Rankings</span></td> <td align="right"></td> </tr> <tr> <td align="right" colspan="2"></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table id="Cell-1_Grid" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; WIDTH: 100%; BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="0"> <tbody> <tr style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: black" valign="bottom"> <td>
<a style="COLOR: black">Rk.</a> </td> <td><a style="COLOR: black">School</a></td> <td><a style="COLOR: black">Commits</a></td> <td><a style="COLOR: black">Conf.</a></td> <td><a style="COLOR: black">Points</a></td> <td align="middle"><a style="COLOR: black">Top
100</a></td> <td valign="center" align="middle"><a style="COLOR: black">

</a></td> <td valign="center" align="middle"><a style="COLOR: black">

</a></td> <td valign="center" align="middle"><a style="COLOR: black">
</a></td> <td><a style="COLOR: black">Off.</a></td> <td><a style="COLOR: black">Def.</a></td> <td><a style="COLOR: black">Sp.T.</a></td> <td><a style="COLOR: black">H.S.</a></td> <td><a style="COLOR: black">J.C.</a></td> <td align="middle"><a style="COLOR: black">Avg.
<></a></td> <td><a style="COLOR: black">Prv.
Rk.*</a></td> </tr> <tr style="COLOR: black; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eeeeee"> <td style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right"><span>3.</span></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><font color="#4D0000">LSU</font></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">20</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><a id="Cell-1_Grid_ctl02_LinkButton1"><font color="#4D0000">SEC</font></a></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right">3781</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">6</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">4</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">9</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">7</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">10</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">9</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">1</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">18</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">2</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">3.85</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><span>3.</span></td> </tr> <tr style="COLOR: black; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"> <td style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right"><span>7.</span></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><font color="#4D0000">Georgia</font></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">18</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><a id="Cell-1_Grid_ctl03_LinkButton1"><font color="#4D0000">SEC</font></a></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right">3520</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">5</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">2</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">11</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">5</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">8</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">10</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">18</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">3.83</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><span>7.</span></td> </tr> <tr style="COLOR: black; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eeeeee"> <td style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right"><span>10.</span></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><font color="#4D0000">Alabama</font></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">20</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><a id="Cell-1_Grid_ctl04_LinkButton1"><font color="#4D0000">SEC</font></a></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right">3326</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">2</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">2</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">7</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">11</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">11</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">9</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">19</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">1</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">3.55</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><span>10.</span></td> </tr> <tr style="COLOR: black; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"> <td style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right"><span>11.</span></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><font color="#4D0000">Florida</font></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">16</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><a id="Cell-1_Grid_ctl05_LinkButton1"><font color="#4D0000">SEC</font></a></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right">3049</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">6</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">3</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">7</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">6</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">10</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">6</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">15</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">1</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">3.81</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><span>11.</span></td> </tr> <tr style="COLOR: black; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eeeeee"> <td style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right"><span>15.</span></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><font color="#4D0000">South Carolina</font></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">25</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><a id="Cell-1_Grid_ctl06_LinkButton1"><font color="#4D0000">SEC</font></a></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right">2961</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">2</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">1</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">5</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">14</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">9</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">16</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">21</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">4</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">3.08</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><span>15.</span></td> </tr> <tr style="COLOR: black; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff99"> <td style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right"><span>17.</span></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><font color="#4D0000">Mississippi State</font></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">23</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><a id="Cell-1_Grid_ctl07_LinkButton1"><font color="#4D0000">SEC</font></a></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right">2927</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">8</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">13</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">11</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">10</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">2</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">17</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">6</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">3.26</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><span>17.</span></td> </tr> <tr style="COLOR: black; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eeeeee"> <td style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right"><span>21.</span></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><font color="#4D0000">Arkansas</font></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">27</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><a id="Cell-1_Grid_ctl08_LinkButton1"><font color="#4D0000">SEC</font></a></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right">2728</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">1</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">1</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">3</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">13</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">15</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">12</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">25</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">2</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">2.78</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><span>21.</span></td> </tr> <tr style="COLOR: black; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"> <td style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right"><span>22.</span></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><font color="#4D0000">Tennessee</font></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">17</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><a id="Cell-1_Grid_ctl09_LinkButton1"><font color="#4D0000">SEC</font></a></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right">2667</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">1</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">9</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">7</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">8</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">9</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">15</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">2</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">3.41</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><span>22.</span></td> </tr> <tr style="COLOR: black; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eeeeee"> <td style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right"><span>24.</span></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><font color="#4D0000">Auburn</font></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">20</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><a id="Cell-1_Grid_ctl10_LinkButton1"><font color="#4D0000">SEC</font></a></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right">2491</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">1</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">1</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">5</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">8</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">12</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">8</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">18</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">2</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">3.05</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><span>24.</span></td> </tr> <tr style="COLOR: black; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"> <td style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right"><span>26.</span></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><font color="#4D0000">Mississippi</font></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">25</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><a id="Cell-1_Grid_ctl11_LinkButton1"><font color="#4D0000">SEC</font></a></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right">2415</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">1</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">20</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">10</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">13</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">2</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">22</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">3</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">2.92</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><span>26.</span></td> </tr> <tr style="COLOR: black; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eeeeee"> <td style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right"><span>29.</span></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><font color="#4D0000">Kentucky</font></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">23</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><a id="Cell-1_Grid_ctl12_LinkButton1"><font color="#4D0000">SEC</font></a></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right">2203</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">1</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">3</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">13</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">13</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">10</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">21</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">2</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">2.83</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><span>29.</span></td> </tr> <tr style="COLOR: black; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"> <td style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right"><span>66.</span></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><font color="#4D0000">Vanderbilt</font></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">17</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="left"><a id="Cell-1_Grid_ctl13_LinkButton1"><font color="#4D0000">SEC</font></a></td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="right">1128</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">6</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">10</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">7</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">17</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">0</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle">2.29</td> <td style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" align="middle"><span>66.</span></td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
 

dawgstudent

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depending on who is running that school's Rivals or Scout sites.

But your theory has some validity because I do remember people claiming ESPN last year.
 

BhamReb.sixpack

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There are three separate recruiting services at play on the landscape today:

Rivals
Scout &
Scouts Inc. (aka ESPN)

The guy who ranked the SEC in that article (Tom Luginbill) works for Scouts Inc./ESPN.

capiche?
 

RebelBruiser

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I believe you're right about that as well DS. I think certain schools gravitate to one site over the other based on who the writers are and who has the best information, but I do also think a lot of fans will change from year to year on which site they think has the most accurate rankings, and surprisingly, the site with the most accurate rankings is typically the site with the best rankings for your class.

Our fans are the same way. I'm sure most of them would claim Scout's rankings to be the best this year, because I believe they are the most favorable for our class.
 

Fletch Fletcher

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I think everyone complaining about MSU being ranked 6th in the West is missing the obvious. This is just another case of mistaken identity. My guess is that this Tom Luginbill guy got his MSU's and Ole Miss's confused. I know I know, an ESPN publication not knowing the difference between the two, amazing I know.