Chris Paul in full ***** mode tonight.

PBRME

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The refs are buying his act too. I thought it was funny when Griffin flopped on Gasol, there was no call, he stood up, was bumped and flopped again. Which led to an easy basket. I'll take 5 on 4 all game long.
 

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I would hate to pull for a team like this if I was a clippers fan. Shut up and play basketball.
 

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Huge win. I did not like some of Hollins moves, but whatever

Gasol should not have been in with three fouls and 1:30 left in the first half, and I like Q coming off the bench before Bayless. You and Sesh can stay at my crib for the West finals.

If Griffin is still hurt next game, it's over. I said at the time game 4 would decide the series, and it may have.
 

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The refs are buying his act too. I thought it was funny when Griffin flopped on Gasol, there was no call, he stood up, was bumped and flopped again. Which led to an easy basket. I'll take 5 on 4 all game long.

You mean the time when Gasol lowered his shoulder, pivoted, and rammed it into Griffin's chest? The time when Miller commented that could have easily been a foul on Gasol?

Shoulder to the sternum of a positioned defender should be a charge most every time. But hey, thats from someone who has no skin in the outcome of this series and who is tired of seeing shoulders being lowered to clear room. There are 20 other ways to clear room in the NBA that dont involve such contact.
 

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I wouldn't call that ramming. Every low post player does the same. Griffin is like a bull in a china shop when he gets the ball down low. You don't see any of the Griz defenders over exaggerating contact, not once, but twice in a 5 second span causing a defensive mismatch. Griffin needs to suck it up, play defense, and stop faking when the game gets physical.
 

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I have given up on trying to understand Lionel's logic. There simply is none at times, and I think he does things just to spite people when he feels like his calls are being questioned. Not that he necessarily did that last night, but I could also find no reason to bring Marc back into the game with 3 fouls and 1:30 left in the half. On top of that, I may be crazy, but I swear I think he did the same thing when Gasol had 4 fouls at the end of the 3rd qtr. Then, of course, you're always gonna get the patented "let's send the entire bench in after we've built a nice lead in the 2nd half" move. I agree with Chris Vernon that under no circumstances should the Grizzlies ever have Marc, Zebo, and Conley on the bench at the same time. Finally, someone is going to have to explain sitting Zebo with the last 2:30 of the game to me. I'm glad that a couple clutch shots from Tayshawn and Marc sealed the win, but if the Grizz had not been able to hold on last night, Hollins might not have a job this morning.

On a different topic, what was up with Conley in the 4th qtr last night? He was missing free throws, making careless turnovers, and flat out keeping LA in the game at times. Whatever it was, I hope he snaps out of it. He made some other really nice plays throughout the game, but it was like he just choked with about 6 minutes ago.
 

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You mean the time when Gasol lowered his shoulder, pivoted, and rammed it into Griffin's chest? The time when Miller commented that could have easily been a foul on Gasol?

Shoulder to the sternum of a positioned defender should be a charge most every time. But hey, thats from someone who has no skin in the outcome of this series and who is tired of seeing shoulders being lowered to clear room. There are 20 other ways to clear room in the NBA that dont involve such contact.

Yes, they could've called that a foul....it could've gone either way, which is probably the reason for the no-call. That, plus the fact that Gasol already had a couple of fouls on him at that point, with the first foul coming from an egregious flop early in the game.

The flopping style of play that the Clips us is an embarassment to the game of basketball. I don't see how anyone can root for that team.
 

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Yeah the flopping is ridiculous

And it is even more ridiculous that the NBA thinks a 5,000 fine will stop players from doing it.

looking at game 6 Griffin has a bad ankle, and Paul has a sprained left thumb. The Grizzlies better take care of business Friday night. I don't want this thing going back to LA
 

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Flopping is what Ginobili did 50 times a series in last year's playoffs.
The playoffs last year, as a whole, were difficult to watch due to all the flopping.

Griffin falling down because a player turned, squared their shoulder, and lowered it into Griffin isnt a flop. Its allowing contact to take you down instead of pushing into the contact.

A flop is when little or no contact happens. Gasol squared his shoulder up to Griffin's chest, lowered it, and drove into him.


I am totally cool with that play being a no call because it is common contact. But to call it flopping just shows either A- how bias someone is or B- how little they understand the differences between flopping and absorbing contact.
 

Drebin

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Flopping is what Ginobili did 50 times a series in last year's playoffs.
The playoffs last year, as a whole, were difficult to watch due to all the flopping.

Griffin falling down because a player turned, squared their shoulder, and lowered it into Griffin isnt a flop. Its allowing contact to take you down instead of pushing into the contact.

A flop is when little or no contact happens. Gasol squared his shoulder up to Griffin's chest, lowered it, and drove into him.


I am totally cool with that play being a no call because it is common contact. But to call it flopping just shows either A- how bias someone is or B- how little they understand the differences between flopping and absorbing contact.

Someone that size doesn't fly backwards to the ground in that manner from common contact. Especially when that someone is 265 lbs of twisted steel. That's the evidence that it was a flop. He didn't absorb the contact....he reacted to it by overselling. Gasol is a big guy, to be sure, but so is Griffin. Have you ever seen Gasol or Randolph go flying backwards from contact like that?

It wasn't as egregious as some other flops I've seen. Like I said, Gasol's first foul was on a hideous flop that got rewarded last night. But make no mistake...the foul you're talking about was a flop too.