CI Wrestling Thread #56

[School boy]

Naw!.. the most important news of the day comes Nash saying he wants to be Ziggler bodyguard, so for all you Nash bashers how is that bad for DZ?

It isn't and I won as always you can't spin it any other way then to say it would indeed be best for Ziggler.

Legend in me kayfabe or real always stands by my takes.

 

[Lexie's Dad]

Ziggler has been over on his own. He just needs a consistent push. Or we need to understand that his injury history has doomed him to midcard Hell.

 

[Lexie's Dad]

^Gran Metalik faces Tajiri in the next round. That will be a fun match.

CWC Episode 2 was better than 1. Agree with BKH's take.

Sunday? I think they punish reigns and he takes the fall. I also think it will be screwy like Zayne, Corbin, Joe but they don't have submissions that I can think of, so I'd say some sort of double pin that punishes Reigns. Because spite is spite.

 

[BKH34]

Ziggler ain't ever gonna be ****. His floor is singles Marty Jannetty and ceiling is Mr. Perfect.

Rack em.

Although you absolutely do need those guys to have a roster hitting on all cylinders. I'm wondering if wrestling fans in the mid-90s were wanting Vince to put the belt on Jannetty the same way folks still want Dolph to have the strap today despite showing that he can't really stay healthy enough to be trusted to the point of having that title.

Counterpoint to myself: Mr. Perfect clearly should have had a run with the title. Several, actually.

 

[BigSexy_fan]

Naw!.. the most important news of the day comes Nash saying he wants to be Ziggler bodyguard, so for all you Nash bashers how is that bad for DZ?

It isn't and I won as always you can't spin it any other way then to say it would indeed be best for Ziggler.

Legend in me kayfabe or real always stands by my takes.

Hell yeah, brother! Best news of the day! They could call themselves two dudes that would get booed. Instant heel turn for Ziggler, and we all know #heel Ziggler was where it was at for him.

Besides, who wouldn't be intimidated with this in your corner:

Assuming his quad held up, and he could stand from an entire match, every time you'd look over you'd see Wade from Roadhouse, and as we all know, he said pain don't hurt.

 

[Laparkafan]

Did the Uso's get buried when Reigns got suspended?

 

[Kentucky Bandit]

Who takes the pin on Sunday?

Reigns.

I really don't want 2 champs. I understand why you need 2 titles with 2 separate shows, but that hasn't made a difference since they merged the titles with house shows. They have been running 2 house shows with just one champ.

So why have 2 titles? Just let the champs (wwe, IC, USA, Tag, women, cruiserweight, hardcore, whatever) appear on both shows.

We don't need more champs.

 

[Laparkafan]

Btw - if you order wwe network free trial this weekend you get battleground and Summerslam for free!

 

[krazykats]

It still isn't worth the cancellation after summer slam.

 

[Lexie's Dad]

Bayley is Sasha's partner or do they pull a surprise? Who would be a surprise? Could Trish or Lita have one match left in the tank?

 

[Laparkafan]

Bayley is Sasha's partner or do they pull a surprise? Who would be a surprise? Could Trish or Lita have one match left in the tank?

Sasha tweeted that not even Meltzer would be able to guess her mystery partner so it's probably more likely to be Trish/Lita then Bayley.

 

[CrimeDawg18]

Battleground Prediction Time

Just to give the IWC a big FU- Reigns wins title

New Day over Wyatts- Maybe we can have another Final Deletion

Rusev smash

Miz retains over Young-

I still think Bayley is the mystery partner and she and Sasha win

Becky over Natalya

Cena's Club over AJ's Club

Zayn over Owens

 

[School boy]

He is indeed the greatest ever Randy Orton!

My fav all time! Mark city for this boy from San Fran the roots of my little ones!

 

[Laparkafan]

I don't watch NXT so who is this guy that made the save after the Rusev/Ryder match?

 

[Lexie's Dad]

Ryder's NXT partner and SDL drafted Mojo Rawley.

 

[Lexie's Dad]

They went out of their way to point out Bayley was there for one match only.

Makes no sense, but they have to give Asuka someone to wrestle while the young girls develop.

 

[JL-23]

Enzo is great lol he killed it on the mic tonight.

 

[Laparkafan]

So Summerslam...
Triple threat rematch
Lesnar/Orton
AJ/Cena
Enzo + Cass/Gallows + Anderson
New Day/Wyatts
Charlotte/Sasha
Lynch/Natalya
Rawley/Rusev
Young/Miz

Please get Darren Young and Dana Brooke off my tv - unimpressive to say the least.

 

[allenctynimrod_rivals138101]

So Summerslam...
Triple threat rematch
Lesnar/Orton
AJ/Cena
Enzo + Cass/Gallows + Anderson
New Day/Wyatts
Charlotte/Sasha
Lynch/Natalya
Rawley/Rusev
Young/Miz

Please get Darren Young and Dana Brooke off my tv - unimpressive to say the least.

Don't think you'll get Mojo and Rusev.....think that was actually more about reuniting the Hype Bros than anything. If we are getting away from Owens/Zayn for a while, and with a clean win for Zayn I hope we are, I'd love to see Zayn and Rusev as its fresh and should be a good program.

 

[allenctynimrod_rivals138101]

How do they get a triple threat rematch with the champ retaining? Legitimately curious.

They shouldn't. AJ or Bray with a month build makes more sense for Ambrose

 

[Laparkafan]

Well AJ just got pinned by Cena and he will want a singles match at Summerslam for retribution + rumor is next feud for AJ is Orton post Summerslam so Bray seems like a more viable option.

 

[allenctynimrod_rivals138101]

I'm all for Wyatt actually. People are complaining about Owens being stuck in the mid card well Bray had been there a hell of a lot longer and he's one of the guys this brand split should really benefit

 

[allenctynimrod_rivals138101]

Are they going full throttle and simply trying to build SmackDown up? I just disagree with Ambrose going over clean there. He's the weakest of the three. If anything, it should have been a double pin to create two titles.

And Reigns, that guy seems he's going to be crapped on for awhile. Built up only to be pinned cleanly twice. Hey WWE, instead of just killing the value of an asset, how about you just make him heel?

I disagree completely with Ambrose being the worst of the 3. He's been consistently over for months and has actually had some of the more entertaining programs on WWE TV for a while. Now admittedly sometimes the pay off matches havent been the best but the feuds themselves have been good.

Rollins can have a good match with anyone. i won't dispute that he's the best worker of the 3 but Ambrose has by far the best psychology and actually gets a lot more out of an honestly pedestrian offense.

As for Reigns going heel? I don't mind it if you were going for face Rollins but I completely prefer Rollins as a heel and there's much more money to be made off Reigns as a face than there is as a heel.

Keep in mind when reading all this im both a Rollins and Ambrose mark and just don't care for Reigns

 

[krazykats]

Ambrose is perfect in his role. Also it's an easier angle going into SS than crowning a new champ and having another rematch.

Who knows where things go from here but finding out the two days after a PPV is cool.

 

[CrimeDawg18]

Thought last night's show was really good. If they are serious about not having Smackdown as the "B" show this was a good way to do it.

Heisman will be upset but I enjoyed the reaction Reigns got last night. They should just go on and make him a heel now.

Interesting (to me anyway) backstage note, two WWE couples got split up during the draft. Del Rio and Paige and apparently Carmella and Enzo are a couple too.

 

[Lexie's Dad]

If the late, great Heisman hadn't been banned by a mod who must be highly paid to take being a message board moderator so seriously (I bet he lists it on his resume'). He would defend Reigns, blame the smarks, and blame Daniel Bryan. Miss you amigo.

 

[JHB4UK]

Did the Uso's get buried when Reigns got suspended?

LOL talk about taking your burying to new depths...poor Roman

 

[allenctynimrod_rivals138101]

LOL talk about taking your burying to new depths...poor Roman

Ha I totally saw that but didn't think anything about it

 

[Kentucky Bandit]

First - Heisman got banned? When? For what?

Next - LOL at the Uso's having to hold up Ambrose after pinning Reigns. That has Vince McMahon written all over.

I was listening to the LAW on the way into work this morning and Meltzer said that until Reigns failed his test the plans for SummerSlam were Rollins-Reigns for the WWE title and Styles-Cena for the World title.

I have no problem at all with Ambrose being Champ. Outside of that feud with Lesnar he has been really good and the crowd is behind him. They just need to get him away from joking around too much and be more serious like his promo with Rollins a few weeks back. I still say his best work will come as a heel.

 

[cricket3]

First - Heisman got banned? When? For what?

Probably for instigating political sh*t shows and being a low key (possibly blatant) racist.

 

[TransyCat09]

Rack em.

Although you absolutely do need those guys to have a roster hitting on all cylinders. I'm wondering if wrestling fans in the mid-90s were wanting Vince to put the belt on Jannetty the same way folks still want Dolph to have the strap today despite showing that he can't really stay healthy enough to be trusted to the point of having that title.

Counterpoint to myself: Mr. Perfect clearly should have had a run with the title. Several, actually.

Ziggler needed/needs an honest to god manager and some selling training with Ricky Morton.

That said, if Jannety's only competition for the strap in 1995 was old *** semi-retired Hogan, Lex Luger, and Tatanka then yeah, put it on him. Dolph is objectively not up to par with past WWF champions and not as amazing as a lot people say, but the current roster is no better (save a few, and even those guys have been booked into the ground to the point of making them even more of a lost cause, even if talent says they are "better"). Again, if it was pre-2003ish then he is an IC level guy, max.

So basically, yeah Ziggler may not be the best thing ever, but in today's world you could do a lot worse than having him as champ

 

[MegaBlue05]

Probably for instigating political sh*t shows and being a low key (possibly blatant) racist.

Yeah. It had to be in the arenas of politics or race. Guy gets fighting mad over those two things.

I generally enjoy his takes and agree with him on most things sports or entertainment related. But on those two topics, he's one of the worst posters on this board. Go red team. Go white guys. Cranked to level 11. All the time. (Deeeeee banned him. Had to be.)

I enjoyed his takes on wrestling and his interviews with WWE guys, though. Maybe he'll be back after a temporary timeout/cool down period.



I thought last night's show was decent.
Owens/Zayn killed it.
EDIT: Triple threat was great. Ended abruptly (My fat *** fingers can't type on a phone)
Wyatts/New Day was pretty good. Thought Big E died on the spear to the outside spot.
Any card sans Cesaro is BS.
Knew Club Cena would win.
Didn't give a single **** about either women's match.
The two midcard belt matches were meh.

 

[BKH34]

Heisman can't be racist. I only read this thread and he loves Roman Reigns.

Give me Lex Luger as champion over Dolph Ziggler any day of the week, twice on Sunday. Bring it on. One of the rare points of contention I have with Flair from the creative control side was that he should have dropped the belt to Luger one time. Not that his reason sucked (he was waiting for Sting to come back from injury to drop it to him) but Luger - come at me - had better matches with Naitch than Stinger did.

Bash '88
Starrcade '88
Wrestle War '90
Capitol Combat '90

^I'd put any of these Flair vs. Luger matches over the best Flair vs. Sting match. But Flair won all four of them. Those crowds were super hot for Luger just like they were for Sting and a win in just one of them would have set Luger up for life.

 

[TransyCat09]

If by give Luger the title you mean have him win it and wrestle only Ric Flair, then yeah. Otherwise you get Lex Luger vs someone not named Ric Flair, which...umm, well it's usually not great

 

[Laparkafan]

:flush: WWE Universal Champion [sick]

 

[ukfan606]

Damn you WWE what a stupid name for a championship. Was Raw Heavyweight Champion already taken?

 

[TCPUKChamps]

Ok, I'm starting to get annoyed with Big E's lack of a push.....

 

[TCPUKChamps]

Hell yes.

 

[Kentucky Bandit]

Was that a women's squash match? Don't think I've ever seen that from WWE before.

Would love to see Balor v Rollins at SummerSlam. I'm sure Reigns will find a way though.

 

[CrimeDawg18]

So does this mean the Universal Title will have to be defended in Puerto Rico???

Will Reigns job twice in two nights???